Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan

On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:58:22 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:54:00 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

On Sat 14 Jul 2012 07:22:33 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

On Jul 13, 2012 10:37 PM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz
mailto:gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:

  Lately, ever since I installed gnome3 (3.2), a lot of things have
gone
  unstable. Gnome crashes a lot and pulseaudio too, on every start
(I see a
  segfault by the equalizer module).

 I had lots of graphics related problems with gnome3.2 - from render
 errors to system freezes. So in a desperate move I unmasked gnome3.4
 (from the overlay) and installed it. Installing (and maintaining)
3.4 is
 a bit hairy, but all my problems have gone since that.

 So if recompiling with O2 does not help, and you don't mind bleeding
 edge packages on your system, try 3.4


Already on gnome 3.4, unmasked from default portage, no overlay.

Complete rebuild over with O2, still getting these errors:

Http://bpaste.net/show/34934



It seems I was using only gnome-shell 3.4 and did not update others.
Now I unmasked 3.4 completely (gnome-base/*, gnome-extra/*).
It's much more stable than 3.2, except for the two faults I pasted
above.

Watching this thing now for crashes, will post update soon.



And boo.. it crashed just after writing the previous mail. Upto 3
windows on the single workspace was good, with 4 it crashed. :|

No faults reported in dmesg though.

Is my video card incompetent?



I'm compelled to concolude that GNOME3 simply does not work on 4-5 year 
old hardware. Yeah, on a Dual Core 2 Ghz, 3 GB RAM, and i945 128 MB.


I'm back to my cozy place, KDE and alsaequal (instead of pulseaudio).

***thread closed***

--
Nilesh Govindrajan
http://nileshgr.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

2012-07-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 14.07.2012 01:41, schrieb walt:
 On 07/13/2012 02:57 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

 But I wonder how the migration might look like and work out, especially
 with that win7pro on board.

 It is still a productive box ... (gentoo way more important than win7, sure)

 For anyone else attacking this:

 I now have both GRUB2/Gentoo and Win7pro booting via UEFI here.

 It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
 with the situation. SSD added for /root and /home ... all disks GPT now
 (and disabled BIOS-booting completely).
 
 Congratulations :)  Just to clarify, you are using the ersatz software
 emulator for UEFI because the BIOS is old, is this correct?

No. The motherboard/system provides both here, BIOS and UEFI.

So I can choose which device (SATA0,1,2,3 ... USB-CDROM ... you name it)
should be tried to boot via BIOS or UEFI. I slowly moved over to only
UEFI now.

I don't how if this UEFI is emulated somehow.

It's a HP Elite 7300 MT machine.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

2012-07-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 14.07.2012 10:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
 with the situation. 

What has to be polished:

All this migration left quite some traces. I had grub and grub2, the
EFI-stuff now in /boot/efi ... etc ... and now I have the situation
where GRUB2 somehow reads the wrong grub.cfg or something. For example
if I try to toggle using a font (for testing) it doesn't get read at
boot time. Even if I re-announce(?) GRUB2 to UEFI etc.

I can boot gentoo, that's OK, but I think there's too much stuff in boot
now.

I hesitate to remove things so I ask:

if I have that /boot/efi partition mounted, does there have to be
anything grub-related in /boot at all?

I followed this guide, at least in most parts:

https://forums-web1.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7011836.html?sid=eb4f57a5e29f9e03463a4888296c6462

and this doesn't speak of coming from an older installation of grub or
grub2, so it doesn't mentioned cleaning up stuff or something.

In my /boot I have:

efi
grub
grub2

...

which seems odd to me.

And yes, I removed grub-0.9x already.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to split boost emerge

2012-07-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.07.2012 01:21, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
 On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:43:47 +0200
 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
 
 Am 12.07.2012 17:47, schrieb Ezequiel Garcia:
 Hi,

 This is related to my other gnash question.

 I'd like to emerge boost but selecting only a few modules,
 for instance: filesystem, thread,  just a few.

 But it seems there is no way to do it!

 Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Ezequiel.


 No, there is currently no way to do this. You could ask Diego Pettenò
 (Flameeyes) [1][2] to implement it but Boost's build system is a mess
 [3] and I'm not sure it is actually possible.

 [1] mailto:flamee...@flameeyes.eu
 [2] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
 [3] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/07/boosting-my-morale-i-wish
 
 
 And the Boost docs anyway say something along the lines of
 
 You should not *actually* try and build this stuff. Copy-paste the
 bits you need into your code.
 
 I think that says it all...
 
 

Well, the nice thing about a template library is that for most of it,
that's exactly what the compiler does, anyway ;-)

Cheers,
Florian



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

2012-07-14 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 13 2012, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

 Am Freitag, 13. Juli 2012, 13:42:47 schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
 I will be getting a new laptop with ssd (250GB).
 
 I currently run ~amd64 and wonder if this is too much writing for the
 flash.
 
 I have adapted to and now enjoy gnome3.  If I were forced to run stable
 to limit compiles I would still use package.accept_keywords to permit
 gnome3.
 
 Any experiences with testing and ssd?
 
 thanks,
 allan

 one ssd for /
 one ssd for /home


[[ snip ]]

 testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay

 but:
 /var 
 and PORTDIR not on ssd.

 seriously, intel had once some calculations that even with lots of daily 
 writes you could go on for years as long as you did not fill up the ssd 
 completely.

I will be sure to keep some empty space.
thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick files read only

2012-07-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:17:14 -0600
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've a usbstick formated with ext2 file system and must have use it
 on a different computer because when mount the usb stick I get file
 ownership: -rw-r--r-- 1 test   users 692926 Jan  7  2012
 asterisk_1_4_39.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 test   users   8502 Jul 21
 2011 asterisk-help.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 joseph  1000  22696 Mar 26
 18:27 asus_10-0-0-1_shaw_nvrambak.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 joseph  1000
 22459 Mar 26 16:16 asus_home_10-10-0-1.nvrambak.bin
 
 The ownership should be joseph:users but when I try to change (as
 root) it I get : Read-only file system chown -R
 joseph:users /media/stick/* chown: changing ownership of
 `/media/stick/asterisk_1_4_39.tar.gz': Read-only file system chown:
 changing ownership of `/media/stick/asterisk-help.txt': Read-only
 file system
 
 How to deal with it?
 I the past changing the ownership always worked from root.

The error clearly tells you the file-system is read-only. It does not
say permission denied.

Fix the read-only aspect first



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

2012-07-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 14.07.2012 11:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 14.07.2012 10:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
 with the situation. 
 
 What has to be polished:
 
 All this migration left quite some traces. I had grub and grub2, the
 EFI-stuff now in /boot/efi ... etc ... and now I have the situation
 where GRUB2 somehow reads the wrong grub.cfg or something. For example
 if I try to toggle using a font (for testing) it doesn't get read at
 boot time. Even if I re-announce(?) GRUB2 to UEFI etc.

OK, tested things, that grub.cfg gets read.

But as I set

GRUB_PLATFORMS=efi-64

there are other modules/features/commands available at boottime, for
example also other/less videomodes, at least here.

(vbeinfo does not exist then, and other things you get when you emerge
grub with GRUB_PLATFORMS=pc. Also booting isos does not work with the
same commands then, no linux16 command, for example)

I hesitate to re-emerge with pc just to get a different screen
resolution at boot-time ... right now everything is working OK for me,
and I rather wait for some feedback here before I go and crash things
again ;-)

There are quite a lot howtos out there, maybe even too much ... with
slight differences ...

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
 On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:58:22 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

 On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:54:00 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

 On Sat 14 Jul 2012 07:22:33 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

 On Jul 13, 2012 10:37 PM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz
 mailto:gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:
 
   Lately, ever since I installed gnome3 (3.2), a lot of things have
 gone
   unstable. Gnome crashes a lot and pulseaudio too, on every start
 (I see a
   segfault by the equalizer module).
 
  I had lots of graphics related problems with gnome3.2 - from render
  errors to system freezes. So in a desperate move I unmasked gnome3.4
  (from the overlay) and installed it. Installing (and maintaining)
 3.4 is
  a bit hairy, but all my problems have gone since that.
 
  So if recompiling with O2 does not help, and you don't mind bleeding
  edge packages on your system, try 3.4
 

 Already on gnome 3.4, unmasked from default portage, no overlay.

 Complete rebuild over with O2, still getting these errors:

 Http://bpaste.net/show/34934


 It seems I was using only gnome-shell 3.4 and did not update others.
 Now I unmasked 3.4 completely (gnome-base/*, gnome-extra/*).
 It's much more stable than 3.2, except for the two faults I pasted
 above.

 Watching this thing now for crashes, will post update soon.


 And boo.. it crashed just after writing the previous mail. Upto 3
 windows on the single workspace was good, with 4 it crashed. :|

 No faults reported in dmesg though.

 Is my video card incompetent?


 I'm compelled to concolude that GNOME3 simply does not work on 4-5 year old
 hardware. Yeah, on a Dual Core 2 Ghz, 3 GB RAM, and i945 128 MB.

 I'm back to my cozy place, KDE and alsaequal (instead of pulseaudio).

I know works for me is basically useless, but my laptop is from
2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
card.

As I said, works perfectly.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

2012-07-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 14.07.2012 17:59, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Also booting isos does not work with the
 same commands then, no linux16 command, for example)

correction here:

I can boot sysrescue-CD from iso.

memtest does not work, as it tries to use command linux16.

S



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HW-raid1 SSD?

2012-07-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 13. Juli 2012, 18:34:01 schrieb Jarry:
 On 11-Jul-12 18:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Does anyone have any experience with SSD in raid (SW or HW)?
  Is it safe to use it on server?
  
  just ask intel support. Really.
 
 quote
 Dear Mr...,
 Thank you for contacting Intel® Technical Support.
 Please be aware that we do not offer interactive presales support.
 However, if you require advice regarding one of our mainstream Intel
 boxed products, we recommend that you contact one of our authorised
 retailers who should be in the position to help you
 /quote
 
 Well, that is Intel-way of support: first you have to buy
 product, and then maybe they tell you you can not use it...
 
 :-(
 
 Jarry

hm, well... OCZ support is really nice ;)

-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

2012-07-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
 testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay

 but:
 /var
 and PORTDIR not on ssd.


So you have these on a HDD? /var for large write count reasons and
PORTDIR for size reasons?

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

2012-07-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 14. Juli 2012, 13:28:32 schrieb Mark Knecht:
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 SNIP
 
  testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay
  
  but:
  /var
  and PORTDIR not on ssd.
 
 So you have these on a HDD? /var for large write count reasons and
 PORTDIR for size reasons?

mostly because 64 gb is not so much ;) 
But sparing the ssd a lot of writes is an additional bonus.

and not on one hdd but 3... a raid5. 

-- 
#163933



Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan

On 07/14/2012 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:


I know works for me is basically useless, but my laptop is from
2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
card.

As I said, works perfectly.

Regards.



Interesting. The only difference here is, it's a desktop with 3 GB RAM, 
with a i945 instead of i915. Buggy opengl drivers probably.


--
Nilesh Govindrajan
http://nileshgr.com





Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

2012-07-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
 On 07/14/2012 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:


 I know works for me is basically useless, but my laptop is from
 2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
 Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
 card.

 As I said, works perfectly.

 Regards.


 Interesting. The only difference here is, it's a desktop with 3 GB RAM, with
 a i945 instead of i915. Buggy opengl drivers probably.

A backtrace from gnome-shell would shed more light.

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Debugging

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México