[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But whether it is on tmpfs or just regular memory doesn't matter. Once emerge starts, everything is in ram including portages work directory which would be on tmpfs here. That's why it doesn't matter if portage is on tmpfs or not. Once emerge loads up the files, it's the same thing. That's why using tmpfs doesn't matter. I knew that the whole time. The amount of ram on a system doesn't matter either. If you have a system that doesn't have a lot of ram, then you can't really use tmpfs anyway. That is not something I would recommend to anyone. But you're wrong with this assumption. I guess you never tried to upgrade a Gentoo system running as server (a working one, with users and workload). The amount of memory is only /one/ helper parameter to not see a difference. Like I've already said, the issue is all about the persistence strategy used by the VM to mark memory as pinned, reclaimable or swappable. Where tmpfs do change the matter is that a file stored in it is not going be dropped from RAM until there is a unlink(2) call on it or that other running processes are running out of memory and some page needs to be swapped (so there is _already_ no more available RAM in the kernel cache). If not using tmpfs and because memory cache is the first place where the kernel will free up memory, you don't have to wait for the processes to run out of available memory to hit a situation where you'll have to wait for the disk to retrieve files. So, this will affect times. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But this is what you guys are missing too. If you want to use tmpfs, you have to have enough ram to begin with. Whether you use tmpfs or not, you have to have enough ram to do the compile otherwise you start using swap or it just crashes. Having ram is a prerequisite to using tmpfs. This is too minimal overview to get the point. Memory is not a static place. This is not a cake beeing shared once. Memory is living. See my other mail. There is another flaw in your assumption above. I already had the tarballs downloaded BEFORE even the first emerge. This is not a flaw in assumption. This is negligible. What the people wanted to test is if putting portages work directory on tmpfs would make emerge times faster. Come'on. We all understood your goal from the beginning. Do we all admit that having portage on tmpfs does not make emerge times faster yet? No. It depends on factors and underlying processes you claim they don't matter, which is wrong. They *might* be not relevant in some cases. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
[gentoo-user] Broken GCC
Hello
yesterday I probably broke my GCC
Problem is following:
When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this :
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in
`/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6':
configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs.
If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'.
See `config.log' for more details
I tried
gcc-config -f x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.5.4
without any luck.
same with
binutils-config x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-2.22
Thak you for your help
S
emerge --info
Portage 2.1.11.9 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome, gcc-4.5.4,
glibc-2.15-r2, 3.4.9-gentoo x86_64)
=
System uname:
Linux-3.4.9-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_Duo_CPU_T8300_@_2.40GHz-with-gentoo-2.1
Timestamp of tree: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:45:01 +
app-shells/bash: 4.2_p37
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r3
dev-lang/python: 2.7.3-r2, 3.2.3
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.8-r3
dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.27
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.1-r1
sys-apps/openrc: 0.9.8.4
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.5
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.68
sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.6
sys-devel/binutils: 2.22-r1
sys-devel/gcc:4.5.4
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool:2.4-r1
sys-devel/make: 3.82-r3
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.4-r2 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc: 2.15-r2
Repositories:
gentoo
location: /usr/portage
sync: rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
priority: -1000
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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
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file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw
multi null plug rate route share shm softvol
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APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon
authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default
authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav
dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache
filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic
negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack
vhost_alias
ARCH=amd64
AUTOCLEAN=yes
BOOTSTRAP_USE=cxx unicode multilib
CALLIGRA_FEATURES=kexi words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon
braindump
CAMERAS=ptp2
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=core2 -O2 -pipe
CFLAGS_amd64=-m64
CFLAGS_x32=-mx32
CFLAGS_x86=-m32
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CHOST_amd64=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CHOST_x32=x86_64-pc-linux-gnux32
CHOST_x86=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CLEAN_DELAY=12
COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog
COLLISION_IGNORE=/lib/modules/* *.py[co]
COLORTERM=gnome-terminal
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt
/usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release
/etc/php/apache2-php5.4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.4/ext-active/
/etc/php/cli-php5.4/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d
/etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d
/etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c
CXXFLAGS=-march=core2 -O2 -pipe
DEFAULT_ABI=amd64
DISPLAY=:0
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
EDITOR=/bin/nano
ELIBC=glibc
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build --jobs=4 --load-average=3.0
--with-bdeps=y --ask -v --ask-enter-invalid
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EPREFIX=
EROOT=/
FCFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs candy compress-build-logs
config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fail-clean fixlafiles
metadata-transfer news parallel-fetch parallel-install
parse-eapi-ebuild-head protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict
unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv
usersandbox usersync xattr
FETCHCOMMAND=wget -t 3 -T 60 --passive-ftp -O ${DISTDIR}/${FILE}
${URI}
FETCHCOMMAND_RSYNC=rsync -avP ${URI} ${DISTDIR}/${FILE}
FETCHCOMMAND_SFTP=bash -c x=\${2#sftp://} ; host=\${x%%/*} ;
port=\${host##*:} ; host=\${host%:*} ; [[ \${host} = \${port} ]]
port=22 ; exec sftp -P \${port} \\${host}:/\${x#*/}\ \\$1\ sftp
${DISTDIR}/${FILE} ${URI}
FETCHCOMMAND_SSH=bash -c x=\${2#ssh://} ; host=\${x%%/*} ;
port=\${host##*:} ; host=\${host%:*} ; [[ \${host} = \${port} ]]
port=22 ; exec rsync --rsh=\ssh -p\${port}\ -avP
\\${host}:/\${x#*/}\ \\$1\ rsync ${DISTDIR}/${FILE} ${URI}
FFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
GCC_SPECS=
GDK_USE_XFT=1
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.mirror.dkm.cz/pub/gentoo/
http://gentoo.supp.name/ http://gentoo.mneisen.org/
[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
The 07/09/12, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: There is another flaw in your assumption above. I already had the tarballs downloaded BEFORE even the first emerge. This is not a flaw in assumption. This is negligible. Fixing myself: s/negligible/out of the scope/ -- Nicolas Sebrecht
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply?
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK
[gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper.
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:24:44 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? Since always if both versions are in the same slot, which is what I would expect for a simple upgrade. A major version step would be in a different slot (4.5, 4.6 etc) and would be installed alongside your old version (until you depclean). -- Neil Bothwick One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet when well oiled. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] static IP issue
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 00:14:00 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:13:04PM +0100, pat wrote On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:00:22 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote Please post contents of /etc/conf.d/net -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake Here it is. config_eth0=192.168.74.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 #routes_eth0=default via 8.8.8.8 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.74.1 I assume 192.168.74.1 is your modem. Correct? No mention of broadcast address. I don't know if that's critical or not. Try either of the following... config_eth0=192.168.74.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.74.255 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.74.1 or config_eth0=192.168.74.101/24 broadcast 192.168.74.255 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.74.1 -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications Doesn't help :-( Thanks Pat Freehosting PIPNI - http://www.pipni.cz/
[gentoo-user] Re: GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On 07/09/12 14:24, Tanstaafl wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. It has always been that way for packages in the same slot. 4.5.3 and 4.5.4 are both in the 4.5 slot. I think you're confusing patch-version upgrades with major and minor-version ones. If you emerge GCC 4.6.3, your 4.5.4 version will be kept. If you really wont to keep multiple patch-versions, then you must set the multislot USE flag for GCC. But unless you have a reason to do that, and it seems you don't, there's no reason to have multiple such versions installed.
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. It is like a normal package upgrade. You can't keep both gccs in the same slot. gcc preserves installations only if they are on different slots. And please write proper subject on emails. WTF is not really appropriate for a mailing list. Regards, Markos
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But this is what you guys are missing too. If you want to use tmpfs, you have to have enough ram to begin with. Whether you use tmpfs or not, you have to have enough ram to do the compile otherwise you start using swap or it just crashes. Having ram is a prerequisite to using tmpfs. This is too minimal overview to get the point. Memory is not a static place. This is not a cake beeing shared once. Memory is living. See my other mail. I understand that memory is static but that is NOT what I was testing or others either. The test it whether putting portage's work directory on tmpfs makes emerges faster not whether emerge using memory itself makes it faster. Since when you run emerge it loads everything into ram, regardless of whether portages work directory is on tmpfs or not, it doesn't matter. This test is NOT about portage loading things into ram WHILE emerging, it was about having the work directory on tmpfs and speed. Since emerge loads everything right after you hit the enter key, it doesn't matter where the work directory is located. We wanted to change only one thing for this test, where portage's work directory was. It was not about how much ram a system has but where tmpfs was located. To use tmpfs, the system has to have enough ram to begin with so systems that do not have larger amounts of ram were not even relevant to the question. If a system has small amounts of ram, then most likely they can't use tmpfs anyway. There is another flaw in your assumption above. I already had the tarballs downloaded BEFORE even the first emerge. This is not a flaw in assumption. This is negligible. It can make a huge difference. The download times are included in the emerge times if it is not already in distfiles. So, if a tarball takes a hour to download, it adds one hour to the emerge time. Depending on internet speed, it can be more than negligible. I have DSL but it is the slower package so this can in some cases make a HUGE difference here. Since I was running my tests here, I know it makes a difference but you assumed it didn't. That would be incorrect. It does make a difference and it can be a big one depending on the tarball size. What the people wanted to test is if putting portages work directory on tmpfs would make emerge times faster. Come'on. We all understood your goal from the beginning. Well great. We, and I, were only testing one thing not two or three things. We just wanted to change one setting, not disable a whole bunch of stuff. Do we all admit that having portage on tmpfs does not make emerge times faster yet? No. It depends on factors and underlying processes you claim they don't matter, which is wrong. They *might* be not relevant in some cases. Actually, they don't matter on my system and since others got the same results, it doesn't matter. Again, we only wanted to change one specific setting, tmpfs, nothing else. That was the only thing we were testing and it was the only thing I tested here and it is the only results I am reporting. I'm not reporting on how well emerge is using ram after the command is given. So, accept it or not, it makes no difference whether portage's work directory is on tmpfs or not speed wise. You get the same results either way. In the case of the OP of this thread, it would likely be a good idea if he can but he should not expect emerge to be any faster. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But whether it is on tmpfs or just regular memory doesn't matter. Once emerge starts, everything is in ram including portages work directory which would be on tmpfs here. That's why it doesn't matter if portage is on tmpfs or not. Once emerge loads up the files, it's the same thing. That's why using tmpfs doesn't matter. I knew that the whole time. The amount of ram on a system doesn't matter either. If you have a system that doesn't have a lot of ram, then you can't really use tmpfs anyway. That is not something I would recommend to anyone. But you're wrong with this assumption. I guess you never tried to upgrade a Gentoo system running as server (a working one, with users and workload). Actually, I do that a lot here but we were not testing this on a server but on what a regular user would have. I ran most of my tests while in single user mode tho. I didn't want the fact that I use KDE and it may be doing something to use CPU resources or even memory to skew the results. I went over this in another reply long ago. The amount of memory is only /one/ helper parameter to not see a difference. Like I've already said, the issue is all about the persistence strategy used by the VM to mark memory as pinned, reclaimable or swappable. Where tmpfs do change the matter is that a file stored in it is not going be dropped from RAM until there is a unlink(2) call on it or that other running processes are running out of memory and some page needs to be swapped (so there is _already_ no more available RAM in the kernel cache). If not using tmpfs and because memory cache is the first place where the kernel will free up memory, you don't have to wait for the processes to run out of available memory to hit a situation where you'll have to wait for the disk to retrieve files. So, this will affect times. Swap was disabled when I ran the tests even tho I have it set to not use swap unless it is a must. Memory is memory whether it is tmpfs or just being used by a process or as disk cache. I only have one type of memory in my system here. It is all the same no matter how the system uses it. Since the only setting changed was where the work directory was located, then emerge pinned the use of memory the same in both cases. As it should. The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it as tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the whole point. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. And please write proper subject on emails. WTF is not really appropriate for a mailing list. Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it.
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. FWIW, My boxes for the last two years have always removed patch versions. Depcleans remove old minor versions, if nothing depends on them. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. All of us told you that you are wrong. Since you insist that Gentoo always keep multiple gcc versions of the same slot around, then ok , I guess you know better.
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. And please write proper subject on emails. WTF is not really appropriate for a mailing list. Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it. And calling someone who is trying to help you stupid is not very mature. You are on your own
[gentoo-user] Re: GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On 2012-09-07, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. And please write proper subject on emails. WTF is not really appropriate for a mailing list. Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it. Will do. plonk -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Here I am in 53 at B.C. and all I want is a gmail.comdill pickle!!
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On 2012-09-07 9:12 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. All of us told you that you are wrong. Since you insist that Gentoo always keep multiple gcc versions of the same slot around, then ok , I guess you know better. I'm simply saying that I have always been very careful with GCC upgrades (among a few others), and I have always kept the prior version around, using gcc-select to switch to the new version after the upgrade. I guess the only explanation if what you guys are saying is correct is that I've never done a minor upgrade for the version in the current slot... Weird...
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On 2012-09-07 9:22 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it. And calling someone who is trying to help you stupid is not very mature. You are on your own Sorry... I should have said 'That is stupid'... I didn't mean that *you* were stupid, I meant that what you said was stupid, and it was... I see people use wtf on lists all the time, so saying I shouldn't use it is - well, stupid...
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 9:22 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it. And calling someone who is trying to help you stupid is not very mature. You are on your own Sorry... I should have said 'That is stupid'... I didn't mean that *you* were stupid, I meant that what you said was stupid, and it was... I see people use wtf on lists all the time, so saying I shouldn't use it is - well, stupid... Every mailing list is like its own group of friends and acquaintances, and has its own social rules. Just because some lists uses phrases like WTF doesn't mean it fits into the cultures of the rest. Not that _I_ care, but obviously others do, and so I filter myself accordingly. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I guess the only explanation if what you guys are saying is correct is that
I've never done a minor upgrade for the version in the current slot...
Basically any slotted package works this way. Upgrades within the same
slot replace the previous version within the same slot. You can only
have one version installed in each slot at any given time.
Using eix we can see the versions currently in portage (as of my last
sync) for each slot:
[I] sys-devel/gcc
Available versions:
(2.95) *2.95.3-r9 ~*2.95.3-r10^s
(3.1) *3.1.1-r2
(3.2) **3.2.2^s *3.2.3-r4
(3.3) (~)3.3.6-r1^s
(3.4) 3.4.6-r2^s
(4.0) ~*4.0.4^s
(4.1) 4.1.2^s
(4.2) (~)4.2.4-r1^s
(4.3) (~)4.3.3-r2^s{tbz2} 4.3.4^s{tbz2} (~)4.3.5^s 4.3.6-r1^s
(4.4) (~)4.4.2^s{tbz2} (~)4.4.3-r3^s 4.4.4-r2^s{tbz2}
4.4.5^s{tbz2} 4.4.6-r1^s 4.4.7^s
(4.5) (~)4.5.1-r1^s{tbz2} (~)4.5.2^s{tbz2} 4.5.3-r2^s{tbz2} 4.5.4^s
(4.6) (~)4.6.0^s (~)4.6.1-r1^s (~)4.6.2^s (~)4.6.3^s{tbz2}
(4.7) [M]**4.7.0^s [M]**4.7.1^s
So, for example, you can see the 4.5 slot contains 4.5.1, 4.5.2,
4.5.3, 4.5.4. You can only have one of those installed at any given
time.
Off the top of my head, the only packages that routinely have slots
for every patch release are kernel packages.
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied Indeed. The question here is what's more concerning: the use of /usr/local in the default gcc arguments or not having root:root 644 for the files in a global include dir.
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory Any idea why you'd have anything under /usr/local? On Gentoo, that's usually unnecessary. (Or always unnecessary, if you care to make a personal overlay to have your personal packages integrated properly...not that hard, actually) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied Indeed. The question here is what's more concerning: the use of /usr/local in the default gcc arguments or not having root:root 644 for the files in a global include dir. I was thinkig if its possible to "half-reinstall" system by preserving (read making backup) my hand modified config and then download stage3 untar it to / (from live cd) , restore config, sync, emerge -NuDe @world and reboot? -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id- (from ) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory Any idea why you'd have anything under /usr/local? On Gentoo, that's usually unnecessary. (Or always unnecessary, if you care to make a personal overlay to have your personal packages integrated properly...not that hard, actually) That wasn't intentionally made... -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id- (from ) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied Indeed. The question here is what's more concerning: the use of /usr/local in the default gcc arguments or not having root:root 644 for the files in a global include dir. I was thinkig if its possible to half-reinstall system by preserving (read making backup) my hand modified config and then download stage3 untar it to / (from live cd) , restore config, sync, emerge -NuDe @world and reboot? I've done that, and it can work, but you're probably better off reinstalling gcc via binpkgs. Someone probably has a repository that matches your configuration enough for the purpose. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied Indeed. The question here is what's more concerning: the use of /usr/local in the default gcc arguments or not having root:root 644 for the files in a global include dir. I was thinkig if its possible to half-reinstall system by preserving (read making backup) my hand modified config and then download stage3 untar it to / (from live cd) , restore config, sync, emerge -NuDe @world and reboot? I've done that, and it can work, but you're probably better off reinstalling gcc via binpkgs. Someone probably has a repository that matches your configuration enough for the purpose. gcc *and* glibc - most stdXXX.h files are in glibc's hands, so binpkg of glibc will also be helpful.
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory Any idea why you'd have anything under /usr/local? On Gentoo, that's usually unnecessary. (Or always unnecessary, if you care to make a personal overlay to have your personal packages integrated properly...not that hard, actually) That wasn't intentionally made... Intentional or not, do you have any idea how it might have gotten there? Or what you did that might have caused things to look there? If we knew more, we could tell you more about how to fix it, and even how better to do what you had been trying to do. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 18:09, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory Any idea why you'd have anything under /usr/local? On Gentoo, that's usually unnecessary. (Or always unnecessary, if you care to make a personal overlay to have your personal packages integrated properly...not that hard, actually) That wasn't intentionally made... Intentional or not, do you have any idea how it might have gotten there? Or what you did that might have caused things to look there? If we knew more, we could tell you more about how to fix it, and even how better to do what you had been trying to do. I must admit that this is my lame fault: I had some issues with pidgin-otr/libotr so I stupidly thought that I can get me latest version myslef. *But* when I run configure; make; make install it wasn't working as expected so I just stupidly tried to issue make uninstall and that probably made this problem I feel so embarrased S -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id- (from ) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 18:03, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied Indeed. The question here is what's more concerning: the use of /usr/local in the default gcc arguments or not having root:root 644 for the files in a global include dir. I was thinkig if its possible to "half-reinstall" system by preserving (read making backup) my hand modified config and then download stage3 untar it to / (from live cd) , restore config, sync, emerge -NuDe @world and reboot? I've done that, and it can work, but you're probably better off reinstalling gcc via binpkgs. Someone probably has a repository that matches your configuration enough for the purpose. Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo? Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure binhost yet) -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id- (from ) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
Am 07.09.2012 14:53, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy camper. This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version. Well, then this simple little command should help you refresh your memory. It shows every install and uninstall of gcc on your system. With 8 years of emerge.log you are good to go genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]'
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 18:09, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... configure: error: in `/tmp/portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6': configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details Can you post the contents of config.log to a pastebin and link to it in a reply? Specifically, .../portage/www-client/links-2.6/work/links-2.6/config.log Here it is http://pastebin.com/s59mU9fm -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-15719 (from 2012-09-07 06:00:07) is included in header of html. conftest.c:11:19: fatal error: /usr/local/include/stdio.h: Permission denied BillK What next? ls -l /usr/local/include/stdio.h ls: cannot access /usr/local/include/stdio.h: No such file or directory Any idea why you'd have anything under /usr/local? On Gentoo, that's usually unnecessary. (Or always unnecessary, if you care to make a personal overlay to have your personal packages integrated properly...not that hard, actually) That wasn't intentionally made... Intentional or not, do you have any idea how it might have gotten there? Or what you did that might have caused things to look there? If we knew more, we could tell you more about how to fix it, and even how better to do what you had been trying to do. I must admit that this is my lame fault: I had some issues with pidgin-otr/libotr so I stupidly thought that I can get me latest version myslef. *But* when I run configure; make; make install it wasn't working as expected so I just stupidly tried to issue make uninstall and that probably made this problem Yeah, it was probably the 'make uninstall' that revealed the issue. The 'make install' didn't help. :) I feel so embarrased S Bah. Pretty sure everyone expected something like this. (But would you mind not using whitespace to quote previous conversations? It looks like crap when it gets collapsed to plaintext.) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo?
Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure
binhost yet)
While I can make a binpkg for gcc:{4,5,4.6,4.7} or glibc-2.15-r2 on my
c2d-penryn laptop, my adsl upload rate is pretty slow, so it'll take a
while to upload it to my VPS.
In terms of guides, a 5-second googling showed up:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Using_Portage_BINHOST
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Fix for getting libxml2 compiled!
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roland Häder r.hae...@web.de wrote: Weird, I'm on 2.8.0-r1 and didn't have to do any hoop jumping to get there (~amd64). Yes, it is really weird thing. :/ I use x86 (i686, my laptop does only support 32 bit; it is a Thinkpad R51). Did you check b.g.o to see if anyone else files this issue? I suppose it could be a USE flag difference, or maybe a dependent software package version difference.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hun...@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd Web: douglasjhunley.com G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:25:42 -0500, Dale wrote: Since when you run emerge it loads everything into ram, regardless of whether portages work directory is on tmpfs or not, it doesn't matter. This test is NOT about portage loading things into ram WHILE emerging, it was about having the work directory on tmpfs and speed. Of course it doesn't. The tarball is unpacked from DISTDIR to the work directory. Then individual source files in the work directory are compiled to object files, also in the work directory. Then those object files are linked to executables, also in the work directory. Finally, everything is install to an image directory, also on TMPDIR. The speed of the work directory would appear to be of critical importance - but it isn't, as shown by your tests. The reason for this, and the point everyone else has been making, is because the files are cached by the kernel, so the filesystem is less important if you have enough RAM. -- Neil Bothwick 30 minutes of begging is not considered foreplay. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:26:40 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: Well, then this simple little command should help you refresh your memory. It shows every install and uninstall of gcc on your system. With 8 years of emerge.log you are good to go genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc :P -- Neil Bothwick BING But It's Not Google signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On 2012-09-07 19:38, Andrey Moshbear wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo?
Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure
binhost yet)
While I can make a binpkg for gcc:{4,5,4.6,4.7} or glibc-2.15-r2 on my
c2d-penryn laptop, my adsl upload rate is pretty slow, so it'll take a
while to upload it to my VPS.
In terms of guides, a 5-second googling showed up:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Using_Portage_BINHOST
I have an idea waht about make chrooted mini install just to compile gcc
glibc and binutils... wouldn't take so long time than upload or emerge
-NuDe @world...
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
Am 07.09.2012 21:52, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:26:40 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: Well, then this simple little command should help you refresh your memory. It shows every install and uninstall of gcc on your system. With 8 years of emerge.log you are good to go genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc :P Nope, we not only need the time when gcc was unmerged (-u), but also when it was merged (-l). When there's little time difference between merge and unmerge we can assume, that portage auto-cleaned the old version of gcc. If you combine -u and -l you need to grep (to be exact sys-devel/gcc-[0-9], because of sys-devel/gcc-config and sys-devel/gcc-apple). Yeehaw cowboy :) :)
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:14:05 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc Nope, we not only need the time when gcc was unmerged (-u), but also when it was merged (-l). When there's little time difference between merge and unmerge we can assume, that portage auto-cleaned the old version of gcc. If you combine -u and -l you need to grep (to be exact sys-devel/gcc-[0-9], because of sys-devel/gcc-config and sys-devel/gcc-apple). genlop, unlike qlop, does exact matching by default, so gcc mtches only gcc, not gcc-config (use -s if you want that). When you give a package name all merges are shown by default (-l is to show the full history), so the command I gave does what you want, like this Thu Jun 21 01:45:05 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Thu Jun 21 01:45:33 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Mon Jul 16 10:30:01 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Mon Jul 16 10:30:32 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Thu Sep 6 11:24:27 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3 Thu Sep 6 11:24:45 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3 Thu Sep 6 11:26:15 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Thu Sep 6 11:26:43 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Except it is coloured by default when outputting to a terminal, merges in green, unmerges in red. Using -l and then grep is saying show me everything, oh no, cut out anything that's not gcc rather than show me all gcc merges and unmerges. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???
2012/9/8 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:14:05 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc Nope, we not only need the time when gcc was unmerged (-u), but also when it was merged (-l). When there's little time difference between merge and unmerge we can assume, that portage auto-cleaned the old version of gcc. If you combine -u and -l you need to grep (to be exact sys-devel/gcc-[0-9], because of sys-devel/gcc-config and sys-devel/gcc-apple). genlop, unlike qlop, does exact matching by default, so gcc mtches only gcc, not gcc-config (use -s if you want that). When you give a package name all merges are shown by default (-l is to show the full history), so the command I gave does what you want, like this Thu Jun 21 01:45:05 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Thu Jun 21 01:45:33 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Mon Jul 16 10:30:01 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 Mon Jul 16 10:30:32 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Thu Sep 6 11:24:27 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3 Thu Sep 6 11:24:45 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.6.3 Thu Sep 6 11:26:15 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Thu Sep 6 11:26:43 2012 sys-devel/gcc-4.5.4 Except it is coloured by default when outputting to a terminal, merges in green, unmerges in red. Using -l and then grep is saying show me everything, oh no, cut out anything that's not gcc rather than show me all gcc merges and unmerges. I tried your command before answering you - so I don't look like a fool :) And I am 100% certain that genlop -u package only showed unmerges when I tested it on my workstation (that's the reason I added -l | grep). However, just now I tested it again on my notebook, and it works like you described it (and like how you would expect it to work). Have to try it again on my WS on monday. Anyhoo, my point was to show the OP how he could check for himself that portage always unmerges older packages when upgrading to newer versions in the same slot - and for that, both solutions work. Going to bed now
Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-09-07 19:38, Andrey Moshbear wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo?
Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure
binhost yet)
While I can make a binpkg for gcc:{4,5,4.6,4.7} or glibc-2.15-r2 on my
c2d-penryn laptop, my adsl upload rate is pretty slow, so it'll take a
while to upload it to my VPS.
In terms of guides, a 5-second googling showed up:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Using_Portage_BINHOST
I have an idea waht about make chrooted mini install just to compile gcc
glibc and binutils... wouldn't take so long time than upload or emerge
-NuDe @world...
Download stage1, chroot into it, and run
/usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh, then exit the chroot and copy
usr/include recursively.
However, you will still need to do emerge -e @world because the rest
of /usr/include may still be dysfunctional.
Also, -D -N -u is redundant when combined with -e. -e implies -D and
-N -u is pointless when -e is used, since everything is already
included.
[gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses readline USE flag
I updated world yesterday, and discovered that bash functionality was severly degraded on my machine. No up-arrow to scroll through history, no tab-completion, etc, etc. A bit of Google searching turned up the fact that bash no-longer uses an internal readline library, but now depends on the readline USE flag for this functionality. If you don't have readline globally enabled set... app-shells/bash readline ...in package.use. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
