Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-16 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howdy,

 I was wondering.  Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to
 compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros?  Maybe Gentoo compared
 to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such?

 Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo.  Do any
 other large corps run it that we know of?

 I googled a bit but couldn't find anything.  Maybe my search terms
 wasn't good enough.

 Links would be nice.

 Dale

 --
 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
 how you interpreted my words!



While I'll start by backing up everything said by others regarding the
differences being nearly negligible in a truly equal test, same feature set
from source vs the feature set provided by a binary distro, and even a loss
in terms of total time when you include the compile times involved, I do
have a bit of anecdotal evidence in Gentoo's favor.

On the majority of x86 or x86_64 hardware there's very little room for
across the board gains in performance over otherwise standard cflags. On
slightly less 'normal' hardware, like, say, an Atom N270 based netbook with
1GB of ram, however, a few cflags go a *long* way towards having a usable
system. My Mini9 shipped with a variant of Ubuntu that's actually built
with general optimizations to make it usable on that hardware, and having
run the same version of Ubuntu without those optimizations for a day or two
on it, the amount of stutter and stalling was almost unbearable. Then, with
the help of a desktop (or three) to handle the bulk of the compilation, I
moved to Gentoo on it. I hadn't sorted out what cflags would be best, and
simply built what I needed to get back to work on it with fairly minimal
use flags, and I was rather frustrated to find that it still ran worse than
the factory install, once programs had started (though that process
was noticeably faster, as it generally is with so much less running in the
background). Once I adjusted to the appropriate cflags, the stutter cleared
up, things didn't stall frequently, and the system was simply more
responsive. I could even watch flash videos full screen without it
stuttering, which I'd given up on as a possibility on the system. A vast
majority of the gains I saw were simply from clearing away the 80% of
Ubuntu's features I have no use for, but when you have a processor that
approaches things just a little differently, like an Atom, you really can
gain a bit from letting the compiler put things in an order the processor
will agree with better.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy


[gentoo-user] udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces

2013-03-16 Thread Dan Johansson
Hello,

Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long time).
Even if  I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and my old 
70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed (eth0 gets swapped 
with eth1) which then messes up my whole configuration (routing tables and 
firewall rules).
Any suggestion how to keep my old names and order?

Regards,
-- 
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[gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?

2013-03-16 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

 I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes
 howto install the java plugin for the current fireox.

 Where can I find one?

 Best regards,
 mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?

2013-03-16 Thread Wang Jiajun
On Saturday 16 March 2013 14:15:50 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes
  howto install the java plugin for the current fireox.
 
  Where can I find one?
 
  Best regards,
  mcc

What about this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml

I think simply enable the `nsplugin' USE flag and install orcale-jre-bin is 
enough.

-- 
Regards,
Wang Jiajun



Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?

2013-03-16 Thread David Abbott
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

  I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes
  howto install the java plugin for the current fireox.

  Where can I find one?

  Best regards,
  mcc





I use icedtea;

amd64testbox ~ # emerge -pv icedtea

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ~] dev-java/icedtea-7.2.3.8:7  USE=X alsa cups
jbootstrap nsplugin nss pulseaudio source webstart -cjk -debug -doc
-examples -javascript -pax_kernel -systemtap {-test} 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

amd64testbox ~ # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
  [1]   icedtea-7  current



[gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces

2013-03-16 Thread Jonathan Callen
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On 03/16/2013 09:14 AM, Dan Johansson wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long
 time). Even if  I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and
 my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed
 (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole
 configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion
 how to keep my old names and order?
 
 Regards,
 

Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface
to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due
to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a
network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next
enumerated device.  The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that
match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the
kernel would *not* automatically assign.  Unfortunately, that means
that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that
the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and
prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can
believe).

- -- 
Jonathan Callen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-16 Thread Stroller

On 15 March 2013, at 17:32, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
 
 If you use the Gentoo hardened Tinfoil Linux you will need lots of ram
 and wait ages to boot but firefox will just pop up.

I'm sorry, I don't understand this statement. Could you possibly explain, 
please?

Stroller.
 


Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-16 Thread Stroller

On 15 March 2013, at 17:36, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
 ...
 ROFL. It's called me wrestling with thunderbird to try to remove html
 formatting but failing.
 
 Compulsory html annoys me on Android (If only you could have proper
 programs like Nokias N9 had claws)

Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option?

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 
might enforce top-posting on replies.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64, Firefox = Java Plugin?

2013-03-16 Thread meino . cramer
Wang Jiajun amesi...@gmail.com [13-03-16 14:32]:
 On Saturday 16 March 2013 14:15:50 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
   I am looking for a useable howto/tutorial which describes
   howto install the java plugin for the current fireox.
  
   Where can I find one?
  
   Best regards,
   mcc
 
 What about this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml
 
 I think simply enable the `nsplugin' USE flag and install orcale-jre-bin is 
 enough.
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Wang Jiajun
 

Hi,

thanks a lot for your help!
Works like a charm!

Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
mcc






[gentoo-user] Squid 3.2 dying with glibc-errors?

2013-03-16 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

I am running squid on amd64. I tried 3.2.6 and 3.2.9 both repeatedly die
with glibc-errors in cache.log. Anybody else experiencing something similar?

Regards,

Konstantin
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Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces

2013-03-16 Thread Dan Johansson
On Saturday 16 March 2013 09.39:17 Jonathan Callen wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long
  time). Even if  I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and
  my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed
  (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole
  configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion
  how to keep my old names and order?
 Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface
 to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due
 to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a
 network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next
 enumerated device.  The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that
 match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the
 kernel would *not* automatically assign.  Unfortunately, that means
 that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that
 the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and
 prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can
 believe).
This is great...
(I hope you can hear the irony)

OK, so I removed the two udev rules (70-persistent-net and 80-net-name-slot) 
files, thinking if this is the way the upstream devs are going then I have to 
check it out.
After removing the udev-rules and rebooting I got my two new network interfaces 
called enp0s4 and enp0s5 (no idea what that is supposed to mean).
My next step was to replace eth0 with enp0s5 and eth1 with enp0s4 in 
/etc/conf.d(net and create two new links (net.lo - net.enp0s[45]) in 
/etc/init.d
Now I could start the two network interfaces (/etc/init.d/net.enp0s[45] start).
BUT, as soon as I try to start  some service (sshd, ntpd, ...) that is using 
the network I get a lot of complains that eth0 and eth1 is not started (and can 
not be started) and the service wont start.
What have I missed???

Regards,
-- 
Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Walters
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:52:41 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't miss anything.  I get what some are saying.  The reason for
 my question is this.  Gentoo allows a person to customize the OS to
 the specific hardware it is being run on.  Redhat and other binary
 distros don't allow this, unless you compile your own packages which
 is no longer really a binary install. 
 
 So, if I install Redhat on my machine, would it be less efficient than
 my Gentoo install which is customized for my hardware?  Has someone
 else tested this and made it public? 
 
 If people can't get this, never mind. 
 
 Dale

I have not really searched for such benchmarks for a while.  I would
take any such things with a grain of salt, if I did.  Unless I want to
devote the time to set up a series of application specific tests, and
test them on multiple platforms on MY hardware, such results would be
almost useless to me.  I am sure that there are such tests out there -
Computer Science and Engineering departments at Universities have
certainly run such tests - whether they are public or not, is another
story.

Also, if you could specifically define efficient, it would be
helpful, at least to narrow down what you're looking for.  If you mean,
accomplishing the same task with the fewest instructions, that is
difficult to test, and very dependent on Kernel, library and compiler
versions.  If you mean faster, that is more hardware dependent, unless
you're dealing with some very poorly written code.

Efficient does not always mean faster - as others have pointed out,
binary distos are faster to install than source based distros.  FreeBSD
is faster than GNU/Linux on some tasks, and overall is more UNIX-like,
since it was a Berkeley developed version of UNIX.  This has been
tested on other people's hardware.  Would that necessarily compare to
mine or yours?  We don't know that, since we have NOT tested them on
each of our sets of hardware.

E.g. FreeBSD uses an older version of just about everything, so I
cannot optimize the compiler for my Core-i7-avx processor.  I can do
this with Gentoo (or any other GNU/Linux distro that I choose to
'optimize' by compiling from source).  

Just my $0.02,
Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev upgrade renames eth-interfaces

2013-03-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote:
 On Saturday 16 March 2013 09.39:17 Jonathan Callen wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Today I upgraded udev on one of my boxes (after hesitating a long
  time). Even if  I have /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules and
  my old 70-persistent-net.rules in place, my interfaces gets renamed
  (eth0 gets swapped with eth1) which then messes up my whole
  configuration (routing tables and firewall rules). Any suggestion
  how to keep my old names and order?
 Udev, as of version 187, will now refuse to rename a network interface
 to the name of a network interface that already exists -- which, due
 to race conditions, can be the case if you are attempting to rename a
 network device to a name the kernel will later use to name the next
 enumerated device.  The fix for this issue is to *not* use names that
 match eth[0-9]*, wlan[0-9]*, etc. and instead use a name that the
 kernel would *not* automatically assign.  Unfortunately, that means
 that you *cannot* keep your old names and order (upstream claims that
 the means used to ensure those names were used was unreliable and
 prone to race conditions anyway, which, looking at the code, I can
 believe).
 This is great...
 (I hope you can hear the irony)

 OK, so I removed the two udev rules (70-persistent-net and 80-net-name-slot) 
 files, thinking if this is the way the upstream devs are going then I have 
 to check it out.

That's the smart thing to do.

 After removing the udev-rules and rebooting I got my two new network 
 interfaces called enp0s4 and enp0s5 (no idea what that is supposed to mean).

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c

Basically, en is for ethernet, p is for PCI bus, and 0s4 and
0s5 is for the topology of the cards in your machine: the cards are
in the PCI bus number 0, slot number 4 and 5. In other words, if you
do find /sys -name enp0s4, I'm betting you will get something like:

/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:00:004.0/net/enp0s4

The :00:004.0 is the part that determines the naming of yout
device. This naming is deterministic: as long as you don't move the
cards from PCI slot, they will be named like that always.

 My next step was to replace eth0 with enp0s5 and eth1 with enp0s4 in 
 /etc/conf.d(net and create two new links (net.lo - net.enp0s[45]) in 
 /etc/init.d
 Now I could start the two network interfaces (/etc/init.d/net.enp0s[45] 
 start).
 BUT, as soon as I try to start  some service (sshd, ntpd, ...) that is using 
 the network I get a lot of complains that eth0 and eth1 is not started (and 
 can not be started) and the service wont start.
 What have I missed???

Do you have net.eth0 or net.eth1 in /etc/rc.conf?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



[gentoo-user] using vixie-cron and anacron together

2013-03-16 Thread gottlieb
I have used vixie-cron and anacron together for years.  I put the
scripts for anacron in /etc/anacron.{daily, weekly, monthly}
so they were separate from the cron scripts in
/etc/cron.{daily, weekly, monthly} (hourly irrelevant for this)

[[ actually I was even more nonstandard and put them in
   /local/etc/anacron-{...} but that is another story ]]

I want to be more standard with a new installation so I am following the
anacron documentation and putting the anacron scripts in
/etc/cron.{daily, weekly, monthly}.

I am then supposed to comment [these] jobs out of their crontab files

Am I correct that I comment out cron.daily by commenting out the line

  9  3  * * *   rootrm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.daily

from /etc/crontab.  I think this has to work but the code in
/usr/sbin/run-crons is a little tricky and I want to be sure.

thanks,
allan



Re: Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros )

2013-03-16 Thread Mysterious Mose

Stroller wrote:

Wait, K9 Mail doesn't have a plain text option?

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, as I am also unable to comprehend why K9 
might enforce top-posting on replies.


K9 Mail can do both plain text and bottom posting.
Both set in Account settings/Sending mail.



[gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile

2013-03-16 Thread Dale
Howdy,

bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue?


x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o build/src/mgui/win_utils.o -c -Wall -W
-Wno-reorder -march=native -O2 -pipe -ansi -march=native -O2 -pipe
-DBOOST_SP_USE_QUICK_ALLOCATOR -DBOOST_SYSTEM_NO_DEPRECATED -DNDEBUG
-DEXT_BOOST -Ibuild/src -Isrc -Ilibs/boost-logging
-I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/libxml++-2.6 -I/usr/lib64/libxml++-2.6/include
-I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4
-I/usr/lib64/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6
-I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gdkmm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/giomm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/giomm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/lib64/pangomm-1.4/include
-I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/cairomm-1.0/include
-I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/freetype2 src/mgui/win_utils.cpp
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o build/src/mgui/author/burn.o -c -Wall -W
-Wno-reorder -march=native -O2 -pipe -ansi -march=native -O2 -pipe
-DBOOST_SP_USE_QUICK_ALLOCATOR -DBOOST_SYSTEM_NO_DEPRECATED -DNDEBUG
-DEXT_BOOST -Ibuild/src -Isrc -Ilibs/boost-logging
-I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/glibmm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/sigc++-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/libxml++-2.6 -I/usr/lib64/libxml++-2.6/include
-I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4
-I/usr/lib64/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6
-I/usr/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/gdkmm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/giomm-2.4 -I/usr/lib64/giomm-2.4/include
-I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/lib64/pangomm-1.4/include
-I/usr/include/cairomm-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/cairomm-1.0/include
-I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0
-I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pixman-1
-I/usr/include/libdrm -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0
-I/usr/include/libpng15 -I/usr/include/freetype2 src/mgui/author/burn.cpp
src/mgui/ffviewer.cpp:41:58: fatal error: libavformat/url.h: No such
file or directory
compilation terminated.
scons: *** [build/src/mgui/ffviewer.o] Error 1
src/mgui/execution.cpp: In destructor ‘ExecOutput::~ExecOutput()’:
src/mgui/execution.cpp:143:13: warning: unused variable ‘fd’
[-Wunused-variable]
src/mgui/execution.cpp: At global scope:
src/mgui/execution.cpp:116:13: warning: ‘bool IsFDOpen(int)’ defined but
not used [-Wunused-function]
scons: building terminated because of errors.
* escons: WARNING: escons failed.
* ERROR: media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1 failed (compile phase):
* Please add
/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1/config.opts
when filing bugs reports!
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 93: Called src_compile
* environment, line 2597: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* nonfatal escons || die Please add ${S}/config.opts when filing bugs
reports!
*
* If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info
'=media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1'`,
* the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv
'=media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1'`.
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/temp/environment'.
* Working directory:
'/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1'
* S:
'/var/tmp/portage/media-video/bombono-dvd-1.2.1-r1/work/bombono-dvd-1.2.1'
*
* The following package has failed to build or install:

Just checking if it is just me or what. Nothing on the forums either,
that I could find anyway.

Thanks.

Dale

:-) :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile

2013-03-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue?


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852

Search-fu on the futz Dale?

search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit

:-)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile

2013-03-16 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,

 bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue?

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852

 Search-fu on the futz Dale?

 search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit

 :-)




Google search, forum search, didn't even think about bgo.   hangs head
in shame 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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you interpreted my words!




Re: [gentoo-user] bombono-dvd fails to compile

2013-03-16 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 16/03/2013 21:41, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,

 bombono-dvd fails to compile. Anyone else having this issue?
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457852

 Search-fu on the futz Dale?

 search-string = bombono-dvd, nothing else, second hit

 :-)



 Google search, forum search, didn't even think about bgo.   hangs head
 in shame 

 Thanks.

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 



Patch seems to be worse than the original problem.  Here is my fix:

emerge -Ca bombono-dvd

Now I don't have to mess with it.  Maybe one day it will be fixed in the
tree as it should be anyway and I can install it again.  Oh well.

Thanks tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph

Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
 Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
 I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.

I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.



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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph

On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:

On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:

Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.


I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.



Not user friendly either.

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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Michael Mol
On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:
 On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:
 On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:
 Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
 I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.

 I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.

 
 Not user friendly either.
 

Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.

Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're
trying to do? How large a project is this?



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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph

On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote:

On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:

On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:

On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:

Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.


I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.



Not user friendly either.



Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.

Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're
trying to do? How large a project is this?


I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, 
change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an 
upload.
I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] HTML editor WYSIWYG

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph

On 03/16/13 22:07, Joseph wrote:

On 03/16/13 23:44, Michael Mol wrote:

On 03/16/2013 11:39 PM, Joseph wrote:

On 03/16/13 23:10, Michael Mol wrote:

On 03/16/2013 11:00 PM, Joseph wrote:

Any recommendation for HTML editor Graphical.
I've tried to use Open Office but it not user friendly.


I used Bluefish...around a decade ago. But it's in Portage.



Not user friendly either.



Define user-friendly. When I used Bluefish, I recalled it being
similar to Netscape Navigator Gold's bundled HTML editor...which is to
say it supported editing individual pages only, and had no concept of
JavaScript, JScript, VBScript or CSS.

Better than define user-friendly...how about describing what you're
trying to do? How large a project is this?


I wanted something like Nvu, I used long, time ago WYSIWYG
I don't have time to play with those tags.  I just want to type in some text, 
change the font size if I have to, place some picture beside it; save it an 
upload.
I bluefish I was presented with pure html coding :-/


There is an application called kompozer but not in portage.

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Joseph



[gentoo-user] Emerge problems

2013-03-16 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

while updateing this morning I got this ouput:


Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge   ] app-text/texlive-core-2012-r1  USE=X tk -cjk -doc -source 
-xetex 
[ebuild  N ]  dev-tex/luatex-0.70.1-r1  USE=-doc 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development 6,030 kB
[ebuild U ~] sys-fs/ecryptfs-utils-103 [101] USE=gtk pam -doc -gpg 
-openssl -pkcs11 -python -suid -tpm 610 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development 637 kB
[ebuild U  ]  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=alsa development 6,903 kB
[ebuild U  ]   app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development 10,173 kB
[ebuild U  ]app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development opengl 2,415 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-opengl-20130224 [20121202-r1] 
USE=development 61,283 kB
[ebuild UD ] app-text/poppler-0.20.5:0/0 [0.22.2:0/35] USE=cairo cxx 
introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild   R] sys-process/procps-3.3.4  USE=ncurses nls%* unicode 
-static-libs 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-db-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development 1,395 kB
[ebuild U  ]  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs-20130224 [20121202] 
USE=development 40,865 kB

Total: 12 packages (9 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of 
downloads: 130,308 kB

WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:

app-text/poppler:0

  (app-text/poppler-0.22.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with
app-text/poppler-0.22[xpdf-headers(+)] required by 
(dev-tex/luatex-0.70.1-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)


After doing an 

eix app-text/poppler

I got his:

[I] app-text/poppler
 Available versions:  
(0) 0.20.5^t
(0/35)  (~)0.22.2^t
{{cairo cjk curl cxx debug doc +introspection (+)jpeg jpeg2k +lcms png 
qt4 tiff +utils}}
 Installed versions:  0.22.2(0/35)^t(05:14:11 03/17/13)(cairo cxx 
introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png qt4 tiff utils -cjk -curl -debug -doc)
 Homepage:http://poppler.freedesktop.org/
 Description: PDF rendering library based on the xpdf-3.0 code base

and there is no xpdf-headers USE flag. XPdf was removed at all
if my brain serves me right... ;)
So no chance to resolve the conflict?

How can I prevent this problem?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!
Best regards,
mcc