Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd vs consolekit] packagekit-base

2013-07-26 Thread András Csányi
On 25 July 2013 22:31, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote:
 Hi All,

[snip]

 Unity is in the tree? Where?

In the unity-gentoo overlay. At the moment the overlay packages are
clashing the already unmasked gnome-3.8. It requires a little job to
manage it.

 The ebuild for packagekit-base has a hard dependency on consolekit,
 without an option for systemd. This is because the last version of
 PackageKit in the tree is 0.7.4, which is more than a year older (was
 released in April 2012).

 If you use Unity, the DE by Canonical for Ubuntu, the last thing you
 want is systemd. Canonical/Ubuntu is pretty clear on the fact that
 they support Upstart, not systemd.

I did not know that. Based on that gnome wants systemd and unity uses
gnome stuff I thought that there is a strong relation between them.

 And lastly, why do you want/need PackageKit? It worked horribly with
 portage, last time I tried some years ago.

Gnome wants that and I do not know why. Maybe I did not pay enough
attention for the USE flag which pulls in it. It requires an action -
just being agile for a moment not having the first coffee today. :S

 If you use GNOME you need to use systemd. Unity is a completely
 different beast (although it uses the same technologies behind the
 curtains), and systemd would be blocked by some Unity stuff, if I
 understand correctly.

I switched back to consolekit to avoid the possible collisions. The
first thing I want is the Unity system working properly. After that
I'm going to ask the guys who manages the unity overlay about
consolekit/systemd stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.07.2013 17:42, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

 What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method?
 
 I use the following unit in one of my servers:
 
 # 
 ---
 [Unit]


My current version, using ip :

# cat network.service
[Unit]
Description=Network Connectivity

[Service]
Type=oneshot
RemainAfterExit=yes

EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network_systemd
ExecStart=/bin/ip link set dev ${interface} up
ExecStart=/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast ${broadcast}
dev ${interface}
ExecStart=/bin/ip route add default via ${gateway}

ExecStop=/bin/ip addr flush dev ${interface}
ExecStop=/bin/ip link set dev ${interface} down

[Install]
WantedBy=network.target

- so that unitfile does not have to be touched again and you only
edit /etc/conf.d/network_systemd -

# cat /etc/conf.d/network_systemd
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin
interface=p4p1
address=192.x.y.z
netmask=255.255.255.0
broadcast=192.x.y.zz
gateway=192.x.y.zzz

-

I have a second unitfile with a more complicated setup for bridging
(with KVM).

Stefan




[gentoo-user] Parallella supercomputer

2013-07-26 Thread András Csányi
Hi All,

What do you think about it?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone/posts/547314

Would it be possible to put Gentoo on it? Worth it purchase one to
play at home? I do not do any extreme stuff, I develop java and I
always wanted to try out the scalability of a JEE application. How
hard a new AS apply into your software environment.

On the other hand, by the time I would pick up some Blender knowledge
and as far as I know it requires processing capabilities.

Thanks in advance!

András

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Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd and static network

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Hampicke

Am 2013-07-26 11:26, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

Am 25.07.2013 17:42, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:


What do you use - and what are the benefits of your method?


I use the following unit in one of my servers:

# 
---

[Unit]



My current version, using ip :

# cat network.service
[Unit]
Description=Network Connectivity

[Service]
Type=oneshot
RemainAfterExit=yes

EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network_systemd
ExecStart=/bin/ip link set dev ${interface} up
ExecStart=/bin/ip addr add ${address}/${netmask} broadcast ${broadcast}
dev ${interface}
ExecStart=/bin/ip route add default via ${gateway}

ExecStop=/bin/ip addr flush dev ${interface}
ExecStop=/bin/ip link set dev ${interface} down

[Install]
WantedBy=network.target

- so that unitfile does not have to be touched again and you only
edit /etc/conf.d/network_systemd -

# cat /etc/conf.d/network_systemd
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin
interface=p4p1
address=192.x.y.z
netmask=255.255.255.0
broadcast=192.x.y.zz
gateway=192.x.y.zzz

-

I have a second unitfile with a more complicated setup for bridging
(with KVM).

Stefan


Good idea, I already had forgotten that you could parse variables from 
another file in a systemd unit.




Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Anyone survive the big gnome update from this morning (July 25)?

2013-07-26 Thread Thanasis
Thanks for the heads-up.



Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Anyone survive the big gnome update from this morning (July 25)?

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.07.2013 03:10, schrieb walt:
 I'm very happy that I did the gnome update on a virtual gentoo
 machine instead of my real machine :)  The virtual gentoo is
 unusable at the moment because gnome is very sick indeed.
 
 I avoided the big update on my real machine when I saw that
 gnome-shell (I think it was) demanded the installation of
 systemd on my openrc-only system.
 
 Now, I've been running systemd on the virtual gentoo machine
 for months with no problems, so I wasn't worried about the
 big update on that machine.
 
 AFAICT the systemd update has nothing to do with gnome's sickness,
 systemd-206 seems to be working just fine on the virtual machine.
 
 The gnome desktop, however, is completely black except for one
 functioning gnome main-menu applet, which lets me open an xterm
 for potential debugging efforts.
 
 Running nautilus from the xterm prompt produces this error:
 
 GLib-GIO_ERROR: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.background'
 does not contain a key named 'draw-background'
 Trace/breakpoint trap
 
 Has anyone else tried the same update yet?

I didn't notice anything today ... which might be related to the fact
that I unmasked gnome-3.8 months(?) ago.

So gnome-shell-3.8.3-r2 got keywords changed ... right?

I am sure you already did the usual revdep-rebuild-stuff etc?

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Anyone survive the big gnome update from this morning (July 25)?

2013-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* walt w41...@gmail.com [130725 21:12]:
 I'm very happy that I did the gnome update on a virtual gentoo
 machine instead of my real machine :)  The virtual gentoo is
 unusable at the moment because gnome is very sick indeed.
 
 I avoided the big update on my real machine when I saw that
 gnome-shell (I think it was) demanded the installation of
 systemd on my openrc-only system.
 
 Now, I've been running systemd on the virtual gentoo machine
 for months with no problems, so I wasn't worried about the
 big update on that machine.
 
 AFAICT the systemd update has nothing to do with gnome's sickness,
 systemd-206 seems to be working just fine on the virtual machine.
 
 The gnome desktop, however, is completely black except for one
 functioning gnome main-menu applet, which lets me open an xterm
 for potential debugging efforts.
 
 Running nautilus from the xterm prompt produces this error:
 
 GLib-GIO_ERROR: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.background'
 does not contain a key named 'draw-background'
 Trace/breakpoint trap
 
 Has anyone else tried the same update yet?

I blocked the whole update by adding entries to package.mask (don't know
if there was an easier way) because I don't want systemd on my ~amd work
machines.

Todd



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

2013-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use
 Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part
 you don't have a choice about.

 Very clearly stated.  Thanks.

 Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with consolekit and no systemd

 Since I wish to continue with Gnome3, I gather that at some point I will
 be reversing the above (consolekit out; systemd in).

 I was planning to wait for the devs to publish a conversion guide.

 As I said to András, you have the wiki:

I looked at the wiki and fear I need a pre-wiki, that is the wiki seems
to assume you know a fair amount about systemd, which I don't.

For example, it seems that instead of /etc/init.d and /etc/runlevels we
have services.  After running
   emerge --changed-use --deep @world
must I check that every entry previously in /etc/init.d now has an entry
in /usr/lib/systemd/system?  What do I do if there is no corresponding
entry?

Similarly, the wiki talks about some configuration files
(e.g. /etc/hostname replacing /etc/conf.d/hostname).  But what about all
the other files in /etc/conf.d?  Do I just copy them to /etc?

In summary I would hope that we get an introductory document (a simple
conversion guide) as a pre-read before the wiki.

The problem is not the wiki, but my lack of the prerequisite knowledge.
The fault, dear Brutus, in not in our stars, but in ourselves

thanks,
allan



[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?


As others pointed out, you now need to:

  source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion

in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in 
/etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:


  ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/

Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like emerge) will not be 
available.





[gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, 

i have installed Libreoffice 4.1.0.2 and now is update to Version 4.1.0.4 
available.

Is there a way to stop these updates? i has try with portage.mask, but then
come a downgrade to Version 4.0.4.2. Its enough when update to bigger Updates
for example 4.2. Each update is not required for such a package.

Hope understand what i mean. :)


Thank you for help and good weekend. 


Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
 the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
 completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
 could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
 Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?

 As others pointed out, you now need to:

   source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion

 in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
 /etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:

   ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/

 Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like emerge) will not be
 available.

Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
/usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
   /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
   /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo

Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?

thanks,
allan

  /usr/share/bash-completion:
  total used in directory 52K available 14G
  drwxr-xr-x 2 4.0K Jul 25 09:20 completions
  -rw-r--r-- 1 2.5K Jan 31 22:15 colormgr
  -rw-r--r-- 1  553 Feb 27 10:52 dbus
  -rw-r--r-- 1 1.2K Dec 30  2012 dconf
  -rw-r--r-- 1  935 Dec 30  2012 gdbus
  -rw-r--r-- 1 1.4K Dec 30  2012 gresource
  -rw-r--r-- 1 2.6K Dec 30  2012 gsettings
  -rw-r--r-- 1 2.5K Jan 16  2013 gvfs
  -rw-r--r-- 1 3.4K Jun 15 11:15 ibus
  -rw-r--r-- 1 6.4K Jul 15 16:48 libreoffice
  -rw-r--r-- 1 1.4K Jul 16 21:32 rake
  -rw-r--r-- 1  475 Jul 15 14:53 zeitgeist-daemon



Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 Jul 2013 19:33:52 Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hello,
 
 i have installed Libreoffice 4.1.0.2 and now is update to Version 4.1.0.4
 available.
 
 Is there a way to stop these updates? i has try with portage.mask, but then
 come a downgrade to Version 4.0.4.2. Its enough when update to bigger
 Updates for example 4.2. Each update is not required for such a package.
 
 Hope understand what i mean. :)
 
 
 Thank you for help and good weekend.
 
 
 Silvio

You could mask any versions greater than 4.1.0.2 and lesser than 4.1.0.2 I 
guess, but instead you may want to give app-office/libreoffice-bin a spin 
which will save significant time when you need to update/downgrade this 
package.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Something broke my setup today ... right now I can't emerge anything as
I always get

configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables

in a way or another ...

both my choices of

# gcc-config -l
 [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.4 *
 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3

bring the same issues.

Should I quickpkg a gcc from my thinkpad and transfer?

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

2013-07-26 Thread Markus Kaindl
Am 22.07.2013 23:35, schrieb FredL:

 Do you perhaps have NetworkManager or wicd installed?


 no, none of them, it is a very basic install, with only the minimum
 packages installed . I have checked at the init script and find a line
 in the depend section saying :

 after lo lo0 dbus

 but dbus is not yet installed, can this be the cause of my problem?
 
 so I have just installed dbus and add it to default runlevel and my
 net.* script are loaded correctly setting my static config, so every
 thing is fine now.
 
 But why do we need dbus in a very minimalistic system? I was thinking
 that it would be helpful in a full desktop environnement for
 automagically mounting device and things like that...
 
 Saying that I've just remenbered that I have selected the desktop
 profile instead of the default one, can this be why my init script need
 dbus for starting net iface?
 

As Bruce did show: You don't need to have dbus installed for net.* to
work. Also it did work, when you started net.* it manually, without
having dbus installed, right?

I don't know, what did start dhcp on your interfaces, you should check
that. AFAIK your kernel does a automatic dhcp-configuration of your
interfaces when you have set CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP. You could try to
disable dbus and check, if your interfaces get up with dhcp again and
then disable CONFIG_IP_PNP or all CONFIG_IP_PNP_*-options and check
again. (If they where activated of course ;)  )

For your net.* initscripts not starting automatically I don't have an
idea other than maybe you forgot to add them to the runlevels right now,
but that would not explain, why they do start after adding dbus...

It would be interesting, to know, what did really happen, so please let
us know, what you find out ;)

Regards,
Markus



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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.07.2013 21:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:


 Should I quickpkg a gcc from my thinkpad and transfer?

hmm, not really. Found that I had created a binary package on my machine
anyway and re-installed that. Doesn't help.

S




Re: [gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 26/07/13 at 10:01pm, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 26.07.2013 21:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 
  Should I quickpkg a gcc from my thinkpad and transfer?
 
 hmm, not really. Found that I had created a binary package on my machine
 anyway and re-installed that. Doesn't help.
 
 S
 

Try compiling a simple hello world program in C and see if the compiler output
gives you any more information.
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Re: [gentoo-user] more on SSD: swap

2013-07-26 Thread Markus Kaindl
Am 21.07.2013 16:42, schrieb Peter Wilmott:
 On 21/07/13 15:31, luis jure wrote:
 OK, now i have my system successfully installed and running on my new
 SSD.
 now i have to decide what to do with the rest of the disk (it's a 256MB
 samsung).

 the first big question is: what about swap? i found some web pages
 (perhaps old) stating that it's not wise to put swap on the SSD
 because of
 all the read/writes. but apparently from what i read on the recent
 thread on this list, that shouldn't be much of a concern now.

 i also read somewhere that if you have swap on the SSD and want to avoid
 unnecessary read/writes, you can reduce swappiness. i have 12GB RAM and i
 think normally i don't really need swap space on disk, so i thought that
 could be a good idea.

 so what i'm planning to do now is:

 - put swap on the SSD
 - reduce swappiness
 - put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

 so, do you guys think that's a good setup?

 TBH, unless you are really stressing your RAM usage (Lots of VMs or Java
 applications, stuff like that) I'd go without swap. I've been running
 swapless on 8GB of RAM for a number of years now with no issues.
 
 As for /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs, this is fine 95% of the time, however
 even with ~2GB I allocate some packages (Chromium, LibreOffice, ect)
 will fail to compile due to lack of space. In these cases I just
 un-mount /var/tmp/portage, do the compile on the disk, and then re-mount
 it.
 

Portage can do that for you for packages you know to need that much space:
markus@Nanga-Parbat ~ $ cat /etc/portage/env/notmpfs
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp_notmpfs
[Fr 26.07.13 22:06 CEST][pts/2][x86_64/linux-gnu/3.10.1-gentoo][5.0.2]
markus@Nanga-Parbat ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.env
www-client/firefox notmpfs
[Fr 26.07.13 22:06 CEST][pts/2][x86_64/linux-gnu/3.10.1-gentoo][5.0.2]
markus@Nanga-Parbat ~ $ mount | grep /var/tmp
/dev/mapper/Nanga--Parbat--SSD-system--var--tmp_notmpfs on
/var/tmp_notmpfs type btrfs (rw,noatime,ssd,autodefrag,compress=lzo)
none on /var/tmp type tmpfs (rw,size=6350m)

(Firefox is still in there from my pgo-builds, I should remove that now :D)

Also:
markus@Nanga-Parbat ~ $ free -h
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   15G12G   3,6G 0B   336M   6,0G
-/+ buffers/cache:   5,7G   9,9G
Swap:   0B 0B 0B

never had any problems without swap, since i got more than 4GB of RAM ;)

Regards,
Markus



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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.07.2013 22:08, schrieb Yohan Pereira:

 Try compiling a simple hello world program in C and see if the compiler output
 gives you any more information.

thanks for the suggestion ... I may have found the problem already ...
something around ccache ... if I remove it from $FEATURES the builds
run through.

loads of

ccache: failed to create /root/.ccache (Permission denied)

in the logs instead, even with an existing and (IMO) correctly set up
/root/.ccache

anyway, I will try to rebuild ccache maybe ...

Thanks for now, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
ok, first make an overlay and copy the ebuild of the version you want to
pin there.

Than mask everything else.

You can find the ebuild in /var/db if it was removed from the tree already.

And yes, this ebuild removing sucks - because nobody needs every single LO
update...



2013/7/26 Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de

 Hello,

 i have installed Libreoffice 4.1.0.2 and now is update to Version 4.1.0.4
 available.

 Is there a way to stop these updates? i has try with portage.mask, but then
 come a downgrade to Version 4.0.4.2. Its enough when update to bigger
 Updates
 for example 4.2. Each update is not required for such a package.

 Hope understand what i mean. :)


 Thank you for help and good weekend.


 Silvio




[gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 26/07/13 22:13, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


On 24/07/13 15:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote:

As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and
the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all
completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you
could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user.
Anyone know what the new 'one true way' is here?


As others pointed out, you now need to:

   source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion

in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
/etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:

   ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/

Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like emerge) will not be
available.


Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
/usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
/usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
/usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo

Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?


You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
completion files:


  emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

This is actually printed by app-shells/bash-completion when emerging it. 
If you don't do that, all the completion files are in the wrong 
directory. And yes, it will probably re-emerge *a lot* of packages, so 
you might want to do that while you're AFK.





Re: [gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 Jul 2013 21:13:53 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 Am 26.07.2013 22:08, schrieb Yohan Pereira:
  Try compiling a simple hello world program in C and see if the compiler
  output gives you any more information.
 
 thanks for the suggestion ... I may have found the problem already ...
 something around ccache ... if I remove it from $FEATURES the builds
 run through.
 
 loads of
 
 ccache: failed to create /root/.ccache (Permission denied)
 
 in the logs instead, even with an existing and (IMO) correctly set up
 /root/.ccache
 
 anyway, I will try to rebuild ccache maybe ...

Or not use ccache at all?  Some emerges break with ccache set up.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39:13AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 
 You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
 completion files:
 
emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

little syntax help:

emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:43:43 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
wrote:

 You could mask any versions greater than 4.1.0.2 and lesser than
 4.1.0.2 I guess, but instead you may want to give
 app-office/libreoffice-bin a spin which will save significant time
 when you need to update/downgrade this package.

I have now masked what you say, but the result is same, portage make
a downgrade. 

emerge -s libreoffice without mask:
*  app-office/libreoffice
  Latest version available: 4.1.0.4
  Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2

emerge -s libreoffice with mask:
*  app-office/libreoffice
  Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2

emerge -avuDN @world
[ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]
[ebuild UD ] dev-util/mdds-0.7.1:0/0 [0.8.1:0/0.8.1]
[ebuild UD ] dev-libs/liborcus-0.3.0:0/0 [0.5.1:0/0.5]
[ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]

Its really crazy. I have netbook and p4 desktop, i want not run
12 hours compile orgy for small upgrade which normal no one feel.

gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2

when use the follow entry, is the same, downgrade. 
gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
=app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
=app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2

Ideas? 

Thank you for help and nice weekend.
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hey Armin,

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:01:04 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 ok, first make an overlay and copy the ebuild of the version you want
 to pin there.
 
 Than mask everything else.
 
 You can find the ebuild in /var/db if it was removed from the tree
 already.
 
 And yes, this ebuild removing sucks - because nobody needs every
 single LO update...

Äh sorry what? I not understand so really what you mean? I should delete
the ebuild? But with next sync is back. Can you explain for totally 
stupid men :( :)



Thank you for help and nice weekend.
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] cannot create executables ...

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.07.2013 00:08, schrieb Mick:
 On Friday 26 Jul 2013 21:13:53 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 
 anyway, I will try to rebuild ccache maybe ...
 
 Or not use ccache at all?  Some emerges break with ccache set up.

Sure. I disabled it first, re-emerged it later and for now it is off.
Just some $FEATURES set in the past ... tested and forgotten.

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On 27/07/13 06:19, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hey Armin,
 
 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:01:04 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann
 volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 ok, first make an overlay and copy the ebuild of the version you want
 to pin there.

 Than mask everything else.

 You can find the ebuild in /var/db if it was removed from the tree
 already.

 And yes, this ebuild removing sucks - because nobody needs every
 single LO update...
 
 Äh sorry what? I not understand so really what you mean? I should delete
 the ebuild? But with next sync is back. Can you explain for totally 
 stupid men :( :)
 
 
 
 Thank you for help and nice weekend.
 Silvio
 

ummm, the ebuild no longer exists after the last update ... you need to
restore it from the attic.

olympus ~ # ls -al /usr/portage/app-office/libreoffice
total 216
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Jul 25 23:01 .
drwxr-xr-x 67 root root  4096 Jul 27 05:31 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 89685 Jul 25 23:01 ChangeLog
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9966 Jul 25 23:01 Manifest
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jul 14 20:01 files
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 17522 Jul  1 05:31 libreoffice-4.0.4.2.ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 17535 Jul 10 16:01 libreoffice-4.0..ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 17281 Jul 25 22:50 libreoffice-4.1.0.4.ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 17282 Jul 10 16:01 libreoffice-4.1..ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 17325 Jul 17 01:01 libreoffice--r2.ebuild
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   981 Jul 16 10:31 metadata.xml
olympus ~





Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/07/2013 00:16, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:43:43 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 You could mask any versions greater than 4.1.0.2 and lesser than
 4.1.0.2 I guess, but instead you may want to give
 app-office/libreoffice-bin a spin which will save significant time
 when you need to update/downgrade this package.
 
 I have now masked what you say, but the result is same, portage make
 a downgrade. 
 
 emerge -s libreoffice without mask:
 *  app-office/libreoffice
   Latest version available: 4.1.0.4
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2
 
 emerge -s libreoffice with mask:
 *  app-office/libreoffice
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2
 
 emerge -avuDN @world
 [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]
 [ebuild UD ] dev-util/mdds-0.7.1:0/0 [0.8.1:0/0.8.1]
 [ebuild UD ] dev-libs/liborcus-0.3.0:0/0 [0.5.1:0/0.5]
 [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]
 
 Its really crazy. I have netbook and p4 desktop, i want not run
 12 hours compile orgy for small upgrade which normal no one feel.
 
 gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
 app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2
 
 when use the follow entry, is the same, downgrade. 
 gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
 =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 =app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2
 
 Ideas? 
 
 Thank you for help and nice weekend.

You want to keep 4.1.0.2 but you have masked 4.1.0.2, that is why it
wants to downgrade.

put this is package.mask;

app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2



If you still get an error, post the ENTIRE output, not bits of it. You
keep snipping out the parts that describe why portage is doing what it's
doing. We can't help you when you do that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:16:57AM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 
 when use the follow entry, is the same, downgrade. 
 gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
 =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 =app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2
 
 Ideas? 

Yes, what you have above means mask every version equal to and greater than
app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2; therefore, you have masked 4.1.0.2, so you
must downgrade. Rather, at the present time use: 
=app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.3

That will mask every version equal to or greater than 4.1.0.3
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/07/2013 00:43, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 27/07/2013 00:16, Silvio Siefke wrote:
 Hello,

 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:43:43 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You could mask any versions greater than 4.1.0.2 and lesser than
 4.1.0.2 I guess, but instead you may want to give
 app-office/libreoffice-bin a spin which will save significant time
 when you need to update/downgrade this package.

 I have now masked what you say, but the result is same, portage make
 a downgrade. 

 emerge -s libreoffice without mask:
 *  app-office/libreoffice
   Latest version available: 4.1.0.4
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2

 emerge -s libreoffice with mask:
 *  app-office/libreoffice
   Latest version installed: 4.1.0.2

 emerge -avuDN @world
 [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]
 [ebuild UD ] dev-util/mdds-0.7.1:0/0 [0.8.1:0/0.8.1]
 [ebuild UD ] dev-libs/liborcus-0.3.0:0/0 [0.5.1:0/0.5]
 [ebuild UD ] app-office/libreoffice-4.0.4.2 [4.1.0.2]

 Its really crazy. I have netbook and p4 desktop, i want not run
 12 hours compile orgy for small upgrade which normal no one feel.

 gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
 app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2

 when use the follow entry, is the same, downgrade. 
 gentoomobile siefke # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
 =app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 =app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2

 Ideas? 

 Thank you for help and nice weekend.
 
 You want to keep 4.1.0.2 but you have masked 4.1.0.2, that is why it
 wants to downgrade.
 
 put this is package.mask;
 
 app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
 app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2
 
 
 
 If you still get an error, post the ENTIRE output, not bits of it. You
 keep snipping out the parts that describe why portage is doing what it's
 doing. We can't help you when you do that.
 

Correction:

[I] app-office/libreoffice
 Available versions:  4.0.4.2 **4.0. (~)4.1.0.4 **4.1. **-r2

You've masked 4.1.0.2, but there is not such version in portage.
4.1.0.4 is unstable, you run stable
portage is doing the only thing it can do to give you a working
libreoffice, which is emerge 4.0.4.2


Do this:

in /var/db/pkg you will find a copy of the ebuild for the current
*installed* version - 4.1.0.2.
Copy that to a local overlay and mask all versions smaller and greater
than that in package.mask.
Portage will then keep the current version but you MUST keep a copy of
the ebuild somewhere else
When you someday want to upgrade libreoffice, undo the maskings.



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[gentoo-user] new architectures for gentoo

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

Anyone seen that ...

http://www.gentoogroup.com/for-customers/

;-)

Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] new architectures for gentoo

2013-07-26 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
On 27/07/13 00:12, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 
 Anyone seen that ...
 
 http://www.gentoogroup.com/for-customers/
 
 ;-)
 
 Stefan
 
I have actually had a picture of their actual office banner sent to me
few months ago by another Gentoo user!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:46:21 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:

  You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash 
  completion files:
  
 emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)  
 
 little syntax help:
 
 emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

emerge -1a /usr/share/bash-completion


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bash-completion change?

2013-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Bruce Hill wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39:13AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 
 On 26/07/13 22:13, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 26 2013, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 As others pointed out, you now need to:

source /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion

 in your ~/.bashrc.  However, you also need to clean out anything in
 /etc/bash_completion.d/ and then:

ln -s /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo /etc/bash_completion.d/

 Otherwise, completion for Gentoo stuff (like emerge) will not be
 available.

 Although I have a number of files and one subdirectory in
 /usr/share/bash-completion, I have neither
 /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
 /usr/share/bash-completion/gentoo

 Presumably I have forgotten to turn something on; would you know what?

 You probably forgot to re-emerge all packages that provide bash
 completion files:

   emerge -av1 \$(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

 This is actually printed by app-shells/bash-completion when emerging
 it. If you don't do that, all the completion files are in the wrong
 directory. And yes, it will probably re-emerge *a lot* of packages, so
 you might want to do that while you're AFK.

 little syntax help:

 emerge -av1 $(qfile -q -S -C /usr/share/bash-completion)

Thank you nikos and bruce.
allan



[gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Anyone survive the big gnome update from this morning (July 25)?[painfully FIXED]

2013-07-26 Thread walt
On 07/25/2013 06:10 PM, walt wrote:
 I'm very happy that I did the gnome update on a virtual gentoo
 machine instead of my real machine :)  The virtual gentoo is
 unusable at the moment because gnome is very sick indeed.

Two things changed today to help fix the problems:  more gnome
package updates were committed overnight, and I changed my
make.profile from plain desktop to desktop/gentoo.

I spent all day today fixing and working around problems, though.
Mostly conflicting package slots, conflicting useflags, and two
gnome packages that won't compile.  I'm pooped, but gnome-shell
is actually working now!

Tomorrow: I start installing gnome-shell extensions :/

BTW, gnome-base/gnome-fallback doesn't work for me any longer, but
there are recent gnome-shell extensions that do similar things.

BTW #2, I had to start with a clean home directory with no gnome
stuff left over from before the update, otherwise the loveable and
very cuddly Oh No!  Something has gone very wrong and you're now
screwed icon pops up.  I'll try to narrow down the guilty config
files tomorrow





Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade only to bigger Version

2013-07-26 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:48:33 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 in /var/db/pkg you will find a copy of the ebuild for the current
 *installed* version - 4.1.0.2.
 Copy that to a local overlay and mask all versions smaller and greater
 than that in package.mask.
 Portage will then keep the current version but you MUST keep a copy of
 the ebuild somewhere else
 When you someday want to upgrade libreoffice, undo the maskings.

I have write the follow package.mask

gentoomobile ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.mask 
app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.3
app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.3
app-office/libreoffice-4.1.0.2
app-office/libreoffice-l10n-4.1.0.2

Now portage want nothing upgrade. Happy Gentoo User :)


Thank for help and nice weekend.
Silvio