Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Am 02.09.2013 10:47, schrieb Joerg Schilling: Solaris is dynamic from the beginning: Well in my point of view it boils down to that: someone wants to use ZFS on Linux. Fine. This means you've got to be a good citizen and obey its license, of course. It is for those legal reasons that ZFS is not included into the Linux kernel mainline source tree. It is also for those reasons you got to compile it as a module. So somebody wants it being static into his kernel, modules being disabled on his machine because of security concerns. Unless he is going to do that stuff himself this is unlikely to ever happen. So it boils down to those possible solutions: a) writing that stuff himself (unlikely to happen), b) just using the module and going to be happy (also unlikely to happen as it seems), c) choosing another, native file system like Btrfs (which is still yet not production ready as a fast moving target) or going with something like XFS or Ext4 (and LVM), or the most natural choice then, which is d) choosing an operating system, which supports ZFS out of the box like FreeBSD and forget about all the rest of the problems. I would go for d and forget about all of the rest of the problems. FreeBSD has been around long enough, and is stable and mature enough for most anything you can throw at and it is a nice, clean, well structured system anyway. There's also Gentoo/FreeBSD around, but personally I would use the native ports system instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS
Am 03.09.2013 23:31, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: This link gave me the deciding hint -- I didn't have cryptsetup-generator in my system, because I didn’t have the cryptsetup useflags enabled. I rebuilt systemd and udisks and now I’m prompted for the LUKS password during boot. \o/ Congratulations! sidenote: The mentioned pam_mount way of doing things lets you boot through to a login. No waiting for the passphrase ... when I login the LUKS-device is opened and mounted ... only one time user/pw ... personally I like it that way. Now I need to find out whether it’s feasible for me to use it. I’ll definitely have to procure some custom unit files, e.g. for monitorix. Most of the bold systemd-users with gentoo see the one or the other unit file missing ... this is still an early stage and should get better with every unit provided. There are quite many bugs filed already pointing at new unit files for ebuilds. pls share your unit as well (or even file it as a bug on bugs.gentoo.org) to help the gentoo devs (and users) here. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Install from USB stick; here's how
On 04/09/2013 00:13, Grant Edwards wrote: Now I'm confused, let's clarify. Which of these meanings of copy are you using: cp my_big.iso /where/i/mounted/the/stick dd if=my_big.iso of=/dev/sdb Sorry about that. The latter. The actual command is shown about 32 lines up (except that my minimal install .iso was more recent)... Ah, OK. That makes this whole sub-thread a red-herring that should be ignored :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Install from USB stick; here's how
You can also create a Grub2 bootable usb which launches ISO. this is always useful to have. for a while now Gentoo has supported being launched this way. you need the following in your grub2 cfg the crucial part is the /iso/install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso (yeah i know is an old iso but this also shows how long it has worked) this needs to be a real path on the usb stick menuentry Gentoo Linux minimal install { loopback loop /iso/install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso linux (loop)/isolinux/gentoo root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc dokeymap looptype=squashfs loop=/image.squashfs cdroot initrd=gentoo.igz isoboot=/iso/install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso initrd (loop)/isolinux/gentoo.igz } Until i got my Zalman VE300 i was using this to boot emergency repair disks is a lot handier having one usb with many iso than a seperate usb stick for each distro
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:22:37AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.09.2013 23:31, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: This link gave me the deciding hint -- I didn't have cryptsetup-generator in my system, because I didn’t have the cryptsetup useflags enabled. I rebuilt systemd and udisks and now I’m prompted for the LUKS password during boot. \o/ Congratulations! sidenote: The mentioned pam_mount way of doing things lets you boot through to a login. No waiting for the passphrase ... when I login the LUKS-device is opened and mounted ... only one time user/pw ... personally I like it that way. Finding stuff on pam_mount doesn’t seem to be too hard. But how do I prevent systemd from trying it first? Just by disabling the service? Now I need to find out whether it’s feasible for me to use it. I’ll definitely have to procure some custom unit files, e.g. for monitorix. […] pls share your unit as well (or even file it as a bug on bugs.gentoo.org) to help the gentoo devs (and users) here. Well, it’s an experiment, but I’m still quite hesitant to switch. It really shuts down fast (1 to 2 seconds or so), but I don’t see much improvement in booting time (still around 40 seconds until KDM is finished). I like the small stuff around it though, for instance timedatectl is neat and that there is no consolekit thread spam in htop. I also see now why some people rant about it, e.g. that it has an own logging daemon (“one big block of everything”) which uses a binary data format. OTOH, logging becomes very handy with it in that you can see all messages associated with a particular service. Systemdadm is a start, but impractical on a netbook screen. I was hoping I could have openrc and systemd in parallel on the system (so I don’t have to maintain two systems, especially on a slow netbook), but b/c I removed consolekit altogether, a lot of stuff doesn’t work anymore if I try booting with openrc. Perhaps someone can give me a hint about the following: - I’m missing openrc’s feature of using the menu key to switch between the last two TTYs, that’s very useful. - No login prompt on TTY1. - A resource link on how to set up networking without network manager. I always did it the conf.d/net way. Cheers. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. Dyslexics of the world, untie! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Grub works this way: 1) It loads /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix Question... how does it read that file off a ZFS partition? OK, so ZFS code has to be installed statically into GRUB instead of statically into the kernel. Please stop the shell game. Grub was enhanced by Sun to understand ZFS. You need such an enhanced grub if you like to boot off ZFS. Note also that this is a Gentoo *LINUX* mailing list. We're more concerned about how Linux works. Linux does not contain code to boot AFAIK Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: the disk... OOPS. This is a classic chicken and egg situation. On Solaris no problem with loadable modules - everything is dynamically loaded. ***YOU NEED A GRUB THAT UNDERSTANDS ZFS AND THAT GIVES A ZFS INTERFACE TO THE KERNEL TO USE BEFORE ZFS WAS LOADED***. I'm confused as to what this means. Grub reads a filesystem, loads a kernel with options, and may give it an initrd. What happens from then on is none of grub's business. The filesystem it reads from and the one the kernel uses may be completely unrelated - this is why we have /boot filesystems. At what point does grub present a zfs interface for the kernel to use? After it booted the kernel You may not know dynamic kernels as Linux is a static kernel that just may load additional modules _after_ it mounted the root fs. Solaris is dynamic from the beginning: Ah I see. But I think by default when we talk about the kernel on this mailing list, it's assumed that we're talking about Linux. And in the Linux case, Grub does not do anything like provide a filesystem interface to Linux. It just loads the kernel into memory, and passes it any arguments, like the initrd. So your grub needs to be able to read the filesystem containing the kernel and that's it. If the filesystem containing the kernel is also a zfs filesystem, then your grub needs a driver that can read that filesystem. Well sys-boot/grub-2.00 provides one. See /boot/grub/zfs.mod -- This email is:[ ] actionable [x] fyi[ ] social Response needed: [ ] yes [ ] up to you [x] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate[ ] soon [x] none
Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: containing the kernel is also a zfs filesystem, then your grub needs a driver that can read that filesystem. Well sys-boot/grub-2.00 provides one. See /boot/grub/zfs.mod You don't need grub2, a capable older grub does it also, see: http://hg.berlios.de/repos/schillix-on for a related source. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] cupsd (localhost:631) trouble
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I normally do install printers using hp-setup. But I uses cups (web interface) to first delete all the queues and also find the cups web interface useful for printing. What is the hp- command to start over, e.g. remove all existing queues? I feel there must be something very wrong here. thanks, allan I don't have my printer connected at the moment but I think this will help: hp-devicesettings If not, type hp- and hit tab twice. Quite a few HP commands there that should help. That said, I usually delete with cups too. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re:[gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
The 04/09/13, Joerg Schilling wrote: Linux does not contain code to boot AFAIK Sure, it does. You can boot on the kernel directly without a boot manager. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
[gentoo-user] Re: Install from USB stick; here's how
On 2013-09-04, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:13:29PM +, Grant Edwards wrote IIRC, the last time I tried 'cp' it worked just as well as 'dd' cp install-x86-minimal-20121213.iso /dev/sdb Interesting. I assume that /dev/sdb was not mounted. Correct. I wouldn't really depend on this -- if 'cp' tries to do something smart with sparse data, or if the image isn't an even number of 512-byte blocks, it might not work. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! With YOU, I can be at MYSELF ... We don't NEED gmail.comDan Rather ...
[gentoo-user] dev-haskell/parsec not rebuilt before dev-haskell/network, despite network depending on it
Hi all, I have a question that I wanted to ask here before I open a potentially erroneous bug about it. For the ipython nbconvert command I need pandoc, which depends on various Haskell packages. Yesterday ghc was upgraded to 7.6.3-r1, which triggered rebuilds (AFAIU due to sub-slot dependencies). The interesting thing is that dev-haskell/parsec is a dependency of dev-haskepp/network, but was *not* built before it, such that my emerge @world died at that point. I ran haskell-updater afterwards, which got the order right, so that ipython nbconvert still works. For completeness, here are the dependencies of the network-2.4.1.2, copied straight out of the ebuild: RDEPEND==dev-haskell/parsec-3.0:=[profile?] =dev-lang/ghc-6.10.4:= DEPEND=${RDEPEND} =dev-haskell/cabal-1.8 test? ( dev-haskell/hunit dev-haskell/test-framework dev-haskell/test-framework-hunit dev-haskell/test-framework-quickcheck2 ) From the above I would think that, since $RDEPEND is a subset of $DEPEND, parsec should have been rebuilt *before* network. Am I wrong about that? I guess I'm wondering whether this is a bug in the ebuild (I don't know the details of the sub-slot syntax), a bug in portage, or neither. Greetings -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:22:37AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 03.09.2013 23:31, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: This link gave me the deciding hint -- I didn't have cryptsetup-generator in my system, because I didn’t have the cryptsetup useflags enabled. I rebuilt systemd and udisks and now I’m prompted for the LUKS password during boot. \o/ Congratulations! sidenote: The mentioned pam_mount way of doing things lets you boot through to a login. No waiting for the passphrase ... when I login the LUKS-device is opened and mounted ... only one time user/pw ... personally I like it that way. Finding stuff on pam_mount doesn’t seem to be too hard. But how do I prevent systemd from trying it first? Just by disabling the service? Now I need to find out whether it’s feasible for me to use it. I’ll definitely have to procure some custom unit files, e.g. for monitorix. […] pls share your unit as well (or even file it as a bug on bugs.gentoo.org) to help the gentoo devs (and users) here. Well, it’s an experiment, but I’m still quite hesitant to switch. It really shuts down fast (1 to 2 seconds or so), but I don’t see much improvement in booting time (still around 40 seconds until KDM is finished). I like the small stuff around it though, for instance timedatectl is neat and that there is no consolekit thread spam in htop. Even considering that you need to input the LUKS password, 40 seconds is too much. You can use systemd-analyze and systemd-analyze blame after a fresh boot to see what is taking most of the boot time. I also see now why some people rant about it, e.g. that it has an own logging daemon (“one big block of everything”) which uses a binary data format. OTOH, logging becomes very handy with it in that you can see all messages associated with a particular service. Systemdadm is a start, but impractical on a netbook screen. Don't forget journalctl -b -p err and journalctl -b -p warning. Hugh time savings. I was hoping I could have openrc and systemd in parallel on the system (so I don’t have to maintain two systems, especially on a slow netbook), but b/c I removed consolekit altogether, a lot of stuff doesn’t work anymore if I try booting with openrc. Perhaps someone can give me a hint about the following: - I’m missing openrc’s feature of using the menu key to switch between the last two TTYs, that’s very useful. I didn't realized it was gone. However, I don't think is a feature of OpenRC, it's just that OpenRC calls agetty differently from systemd, I suppose. - No login prompt on TTY1. Sure it is. Perhaps is just garbled? Try to log in and do a reset. - A resource link on how to set up networking without network manager. I always did it the conf.d/net way. You can set up the network without networkmanager just fine. If you want to use DHCP: dhcpcd@.service [Unit] Description=DHCP on %I After=basic.target Documentation=man:dhcpcd(8) [Service] ExecStartPre=/bin/ifconfig %I up ExecStart=/sbin/dhcpcd -B %I [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If you want to use static network: [Unit] Description=Static network service After=local-fs.target Documentation=man:ifconfig(8) Documentation=man:route(8) [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes ExecStart=/bin/ifconfig interface ip broadcast broadcast netmask netmask up ExecStart=/bin/route add default gw gateway interface (You can use the new ip command, but ifconfig is still the one installed by default in Gentoo). Or if you need something more complicated, you can put it in several ExecStart lines, or put it in a script and call that. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Re: cupsd (localhost:631) trouble
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: If it is ethernet, you should be able to ping it. You have to go through the cheesE interface on an HP 8600 to initially set the ip address, subnet, etc on the printer before cups or any other printing will work, via ethernet. I never use the USB for this printer. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and LUKS
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:16:55AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Well, it’s an experiment, but I’m still quite hesitant to switch. It really shuts down fast (1 to 2 seconds or so), but I don’t see much improvement in booting time (still around 40 seconds until KDM is finished). I like the small stuff around it though, for instance timedatectl is neat and that there is no consolekit thread spam in htop. Even considering that you need to input the LUKS password, 40 seconds is too much. You can use systemd-analyze and systemd-analyze blame after a fresh boot to see what is taking most of the boot time. I stopped the timer during password entry. systemd-analyze said (IIRC, netbook is off ATM) a little more than 20 seconds altogether. But as I mentioned it’s a slow machine. From the kind of noises it made during boot, I guess that the HDD is the bottleneck. The time from the initial blank X screen to KDM alone is more than 10 seconds. Perhaps there is still stuff starting in the BG. I also see now why some people rant about it, e.g. that it has an own logging daemon (“one big block of everything”) which uses a binary data format. OTOH, logging becomes very handy with it in that you can see all messages associated with a particular service. Systemdadm is a start, but impractical on a netbook screen. Don't forget journalctl -b -p err and journalctl -b -p warning. Hugh time savings. I’m just so used to tail -f /var/log/messages, and it’s a hard fact of reality that switching to something new/else/different always takes personal effort. I was hoping I could have openrc and systemd in parallel on the system (so I don’t have to maintain two systems, especially on a slow netbook), but b/c I removed consolekit altogether, a lot of stuff doesn’t work anymore if I try booting with openrc. Perhaps someone can give me a hint about the following: - I’m missing openrc’s feature of using the menu key to switch between the last two TTYs, that’s very useful. I didn't realized it was gone. Well not in openrc, obviously. But it isn’t there in systemd. However, I don't think is a feature of OpenRC, it's just that OpenRC calls agetty differently from systemd, I suppose. I didn’t know where to look for that option specifically and thought it was openrc (because I can’t remember any other distro having this, like many other details such as a colourful promt by default). - No login prompt on TTY1. Sure it is. Perhaps is just garbled? Try to log in and do a reset. I have boot output on TTY1 and logins on TTY2-6., but not on one I tried various keys and conbinations such as Ctrl+C. - A resource link on how to set up networking without network manager. I always did it the conf.d/net way. You can set up the network without networkmanager just fine. I was obviously too lazy yesterday to research it. I poked blindly into the dark by trying the pre-existing wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd services without any custom configuration (with wpa_supplicant.conf being the only real requirement for my network setup), but wpa_supplicant always failed to authenticate, so I gave up for that night. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook service. The advantage of being smart is that one can pretend to be stupid. The opposite is far more difficult. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: cupsd (localhost:631) trouble
gottlieb at nyu.edu writes: However if I try to refresh the page or go to say the printer page I get Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:631. What is the connection's physical interface ? If it is ethernet, you should be able to ping it. Also, just put the ip address of the printer into a web browser and see how the printer is configured. Also in /etc/cups/ there are config files. I always save out a copy of old working configs. On ocasion a cups update will wig out the config filescupsd.conf cupsd.conf.default cupsd.conf.16may from printers.conf snip OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer DefaultPrinter OfficeJet_8600 UUID urn:uuid:0a5bf234-9167-3cf4-428c-a03a24e71e8b Info HP 8600 Location MakeModel HP Officejet Pro 8600, hpcups 3.12.10a DeviceURI socket://192.168.2.9 State Idle StateTime 1357316592 Type 36892 Accepting Yes end/snip Sorry, I gotta run. Good hunting! James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Install from USB stick; here's how
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 05:05:22PM +, Grant Edwards wrote So what's the deal with http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LiveUSB/HOWTO? Why isn't it just the steps below? 1) Copy the minimal install .iso to USB mass storage device. 2) Boot from USB mass storage device. I got the USB-stick install instructions from the Arch linux wiki at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media I was going to link to it in my bug/feature request. Then I noticed the following... Warning: This method does not work with UEFI boot. Given how UEFI is spreading, I backed out of the bug report. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
[gentoo-user] Re: Install from USB stick; here's how
On 2013-09-04, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 05:05:22PM +, Grant Edwards wrote So what's the deal with http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LiveUSB/HOWTO? Why isn't it just the steps below? 1) Copy the minimal install .iso to USB mass storage device. 2) Boot from USB mass storage device. I got the USB-stick install instructions from the Arch linux wiki at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media I was going to link to it in my bug/feature request. Then I noticed the following... Warning: This method does not work with UEFI boot. Given how UEFI is spreading, I backed out of the bug report. Do the instructions at http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LiveUSB/HOWTO work with UEFI machines where the simple 'dd' method doesn't? One datapoint: my motherboard has UEFI bios, and simply dd'ing the minimal install .iso to a flash drive worked fine. When I boot up with the USB drive, the BIOS boot menu shows two entries for the USB drive, the first one always worked, so I never tried the second one... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! -- I have seen the at FUN -- gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: HP officejet pro 8600 printer (all-in-one)
On 09/02/2013 08:17 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: Given my ill luck with HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, I don't want to buy anything more from HP, unless I get this printer working, and then I'd need toner. My ill luck was with FreeBSD and NetBSD, and hplip makes assumptions on Linux file structure that are different in the BSDs. I do intend to try with Linux, and also try the MS-Windows drivers on FreeBSD with wine. I've found that the postscript-printer-definition (ppd) files included in net-print/gutenprint work much better for me than the ones included in net-print/hplip, which is published by HP. I've also heard other people grumble about the quality of HP printer drivers not being as good as HP printers, but that's just hearsay :)
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox - failed to access the USB subsystem
SOLVED; I re-installed: virtualbox guest addition and the problem went away. -- Joseph On 09/02/13 08:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/09/2013 04:26, Joseph wrote: On 09/01/13 08:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 01/09/2013 05:27, Joseph wrote: On 08/31/13 19:10, Joseph wrote: After recent upgrade I'm getting an error when trying to start the virtualbox. Failed to access the USB subsystem. Could not load the Host USB Proxy service: VERR_NOT_FOUND. Details: Result Code: NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x4005) Component: Host Interface: IHost {dab4a2b8-c735-4f08-94fc-9bec84182e2f} Callee: IMachine {5eaa9319-62fc-4b0a-843c-0cb1940f8a91} cat /etc/group shows that I'm in vboxusers group vboxusers:x:1009:thelma,fd What else to try? I'm using Virtualbox 4.1.26 The strange part is when I login to the machine via FreeNX this message does not appear. But only when I'm in front of the box directly. This error pops up quite a lot on VirtualBox forums, it seems to be a generic error message and not have one specific cause. Some typical things that users report to fix things: - mismatched ViortualBox and extension pack versions - incorrect permissions on usb nodes in /dev - incorrect udev rules - legacy VBOX* settings in environment - and a few other oddities You might end up googling that specific error and following all the links till you hit the one that applies to you. The first few to get you going: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/9383 https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7t=50670 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156247 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Thanks Alan for suggestions. I've re-installed the Guest Addition and see if something has changed. My problem is that everything works OK when I log-in over the Free-NX; I only noticed these problem when I physically was in front of the box. This box is in a remote location. My first point of troubleshooting would be permissions, probably starting with pam and consolekit. Look for rights and groups that different between local and remote users. I'm not familiar with how Free-NX works - does your system know the difference between local and remote users wrt Free-NX logins? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] HP officejet pro 8600 printer (all-in-one)
from Walt: On 09/02/2013 08:17 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: Given my ill luck with HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP, I don't want to buy anything more from HP, unless I get this printer working, and then I'd need toner. My ill luck was with FreeBSD and NetBSD, and hplip makes assumptions on Linux file structure that are different in the BSDs. I do intend to try with Linux, and also try the MS-Windows drivers on FreeBSD with wine. I've found that the postscript-printer-definition (ppd) files included in net-print/gutenprint work much better for me than the ones included in net-print/hplip, which is published by HP. I've also heard other people grumble about the quality of HP printer drivers not being as good as HP printers, but that's just hearsay :) I see I don't have guenprint installed, maybe I ought to. Bigger problem may be that HP LaserJet M1212nf MFP requires a proprietary plugin download. Tom
[gentoo-user] RAID 1 install guide?
Hello, What would folks recommend as a Gentoo installation guide for a 2 disk Raid 1 installation? My previous attempts all failed to trying to follow (integrate info from) a myriad-malaise of old docs. It seems much of the documentation for such is deprecated, with large disk, newer file systems (ZFS vs ext4 vs ?) UUID, GPT mdadm, etc etc. File system that is best for a Raid 1 workstation? File system that is best for a Raid 1 (casual usage) web server ? Time for me to try and spank this gator's ass again. (not exactly what happend last time). input warranted! James