[gentoo-user] Cryptic error from some cron job

2013-11-25 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I have rebuilt a PC which has started sending me this error whenever it runs 
logrotate:

Password: 501 Not authorised --- Reply not authenticated
error: stat of /var/log/cups/access_log failed: No such file or directory
error: stat of /var/log/cups/error_log failed: No such file or directory
error: stat of /var/log/cups/page_log failed: No such file or directory


Would you know what might be causing the above 501 error?

PS. I use ssmtp to send mail of the logs with the same settings from different 
PCs and I have not noticed this error before on this or any other machine.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals not closing after exit anymore

2013-11-25 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:14:33 +0100
Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: 
 When working under X11 in a terminal and I type exit in the shell,
 the terminal does not close itself anymore.

Hi Marc,

Did you find out what was causing this issue? I've been experiencing it
as well in my Gnome 2 system (gnome-terminal). I haven't put much
effort into figuring out what is happening, but I'm curious now that I
know it has affected someone else as well.



[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} video monitoring

2013-11-25 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes:


 I've been using motion along with USB cameras for a while.  I need to
 expand my monitoring capacity and I'm wondering if I should consider
 changing software or hardware.  motion seems fairly dead but is
 stable.  I'm reading conflicting info about the current status of
 zoneminder.  Is anyone using IP cams?

Hello Grant,

I've not kept up with the last few years, but here is what I did
before that. IP (h.264 over tcp/ip/udp) is a random matrix if which
vendors cameras work with which vendors dvr. A dvr is a decoder box
with a hard drive. You then connect your web browser to the DVR where
the managerie of IP cams store the video. IT SUCKS for open source.

Some vendors will give you binaries or have pre-compiled binaries
(an API they call it) to load onto your Linux system (red hat or such),
but those are often clunky and annoying, at best. The industry
is still beholden to Microsoft and the MPLA..

ZONEMINDER is a difficult read. It would not have been that difficult
to add support for H.264 (Mpeg-HVC) but most of the folks that developed
that deep knowledge headed for BIG PAYCHECKS and the proprietary
buggy.  

If you find some open source minded developers, willing to fork zoneminder,
let me know and I'll contribute as I can I'm sorry the news is
not better; in fact there could be another project out there that
I'm not aware of, as I've been in other spaces for the last few years.

The best contact I can give you is Andrey Filippov. He is a hardware 
designer that buids (use to?) an open source hardware camera that
does amazing things. He will know software developers still active
in the space and folks that may have an open source H.264 solution.

http://.elphel.com


Google has an open source video solution (can't recall the name, VP8?) that
is suppose to be better than H.264 and open source, so search it out!

http://gigaom.com/2013/10/30/google-sticks-with-vp8-opposes-ciscos-push-for-h-264/

http://www.webmproject.org/license/bitstream/


Regardless of which way you go, learn about MPLA, cause the SUE the shit
out of grade school kids for touching video.


Do post back what you learn?

hth,
James









Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals not closing after exit anymore

2013-11-25 Thread Marc Stürmer

Am 25.11.2013 15:15, schrieb Randy Barlow:


Did you find out what was causing this issue? I've been experiencing it
as well in my Gnome 2 system (gnome-terminal). I haven't put much
effort into figuring out what is happening, but I'm curious now that I
know it has affected someone else as well.


Not yet, e.g. Xfce Terminal 0.6.X works as I want it, version 0.4.8 does 
not. Mate Terminal also does not. Still diggin'!






Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} video monitoring

2013-11-25 Thread thegeezer
On 11/23/2013 07:03 PM, Grant wrote:
 I've been using motion along with USB cameras for a while.  I need to
 expand my monitoring capacity and I'm wondering if I should consider
 changing software or hardware.  motion seems fairly dead but is
 stable.  I'm reading conflicting info about the current status of
 zoneminder.  Is anyone using IP cams?

 - Grant

+1 for motion, it works very well (is being developed afaik), gives you
live view as well as frame capture.

the bug bear for scaling up is you do need a usb controller (not just a
usb port) per camera if you want anywhere near sensible resolution with
usb webcams.  however i find i can normally get away with two cameras
hooked up to my routers so that i know who last touched them. 
this is not a motion issue, it is a hardware bandwidth issue.

you might like to roll your own ip cam by taking a raspberry
pi+gentoo+usb webcam(+powered usb hub) - still v.cheap.
alternatively consider a dedicated mpeg2 (hmm showing my age i think)
capture card which has multiple inputs. you can find a list of
compatible devices at the motion website
http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WorkingDevices

it is the hardware that is the issue -- not the software.
if you are looking to have like a security wall with 30 odd cameras all
showing the a different view of your secure area, all you need is a web
front end that connects an html table with each piece of the table a
live view of each camera.  you could therefore easily have 100+ seperate
computers each with two cameras, and the only piece of kit that would
struggle would be the end computer that would try to stream 200 camera
images scaled down to fit !

one more thing is that there is an android app (i'm sure there are many
but i can say this one works) called ip webcam which lets you bookmark
all your motion live cams, meaning that you could then check security
status from anywhere using your phone.
not sure if you can do that with the other programs, maybe someone else
can chip in if they know.
hth


Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals not closing after exit anymore

2013-11-25 Thread Peter Weilbacher

On 2013-11-25 17:15, Marc Stürmer wrote:

Am 25.11.2013 15:15, schrieb Randy Barlow:

Did you find out what was causing this issue? I've been experiencing 
it

as well in my Gnome 2 system (gnome-terminal). I haven't put much
effort into figuring out what is happening, but I'm curious now that I
know it has affected someone else as well.


Not yet, e.g. Xfce Terminal 0.6.X works as I want it, version 0.4.8
does not. Mate Terminal also does not. Still diggin'!


Don't have Mate, but I can otherwise confirm this behavior: xfce 
terminal works, gnome-terminal does weird things.


One more thing that happens to me is that apparently gnome-terminal does 
not notify console apps of new window size. For me this happens to 
Alpine. (The only reason why I didn't simply switch to xfce terminal is 
that there I cannot switch off the scrollbar with parameters.)


I found about the time when this started happening, x11-libs/vte was 
updated on my system. I tried downgrading it but that didn't change 
anything.


   Peter.



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} video monitoring

2013-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:51:02 +, thegeezer wrote:

 the bug bear for scaling up is you do need a usb controller (not just a
 usb port) per camera if you want anywhere near sensible resolution with
 usb webcams.

This depends greatly on the specific cameras. Microsoft webcams, while
giving good quality, are notorious for using whatever USB bandwidth is
available, so two on one controller just doesn't work. Others are more
forgiving.


-- 
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When puns are outlawed only outlaws will have puns.


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[gentoo-user] to nest commands

2013-11-25 Thread edwardu...@live.com
Hello,

My Bash skills are not that advanced, so 
I am wondering if it is possible to nest one command inside in another command, 
not in a script,but on the command line,for instance
to copy a file to a different destination while changing permissons at the same 
time, all in one line.

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Re: [gentoo-user] to nest commands

2013-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/11/2013 08:59, edwardu...@live.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My Bash skills are not that advanced, so 
 I am wondering if it is possible to nest one command inside in another 
 command, not in a script,but on the command line,for instance
 to copy a file to a different destination while changing permissons at the 
 same time, all in one line.
 


You don't do it that way. I understand what you want to do, but your
description makes no sense.

How you do it is by running two commands on one line, one after the other.

To copy a file myfile.txt to /tmp and also change it's permissions,
use the ; separator:

cp myfile.txt /tmp ; chmod 644 /tmp/myfile.txt

That runs the first command (cp) and then blindly runs the second one.




Sometimes you want to run the second command only if the first one
succeeds (there's not much point in chmod'ing a file that didn't copy
properly.  does this:

cp myfile.txt /tmp  chmod 644 /tmp/myfile.txt

 is boolean logic and a very common programming trick. I won't bore
you with details - it gets complex and we'd have to deal with brash
crazies like why true and false is the wrong way round the the rest of
the world, but just know it this way:

the second command (chmod) will only run if the first (cp) succeeded. If
it failed, the chmod will not be be tried.

Note that  is definitely not the same thing as just one  - that
is something completely different. Bash is full of such stuff, it's all
done deliberately to mess with your head :-)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] to nest commands

2013-11-25 Thread edwardu...@live.com
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:16:45 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't do it that way. I understand what you want to do, but your
 description makes no sense.
 
 How you do it is by running two commands on one line, one after the other.
 
 To copy a file myfile.txt to /tmp and also change it's permissions,
 use the ; separator:
 
 cp myfile.txt /tmp ; chmod 644 /tmp/myfile.txt
 
 That runs the first command (cp) and then blindly runs the second one.
 
 
 
 
 Sometimes you want to run the second command only if the first one
 succeeds (there's not much point in chmod'ing a file that didn't copy
 properly.  does this:
 
 cp myfile.txt /tmp  chmod 644 /tmp/myfile.txt
 
  is boolean logic and a very common programming trick. I won't bore
 you with details - it gets complex and we'd have to deal with brash
 crazies like why true and false is the wrong way round the the rest of
 the world, but just know it this way:
 
 the second command (chmod) will only run if the first (cp) succeeded. If
 it failed, the chmod will not be be tried.
 
 Note that  is definitely not the same thing as just one  - that
 is something completely different. Bash is full of such stuff, it's all
 done deliberately to mess with your head :-)
 
Thanks for the prompt reply and free lesson, I appreciate it:-)
Yes...this is exactly what I was looking for. 

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