Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change EFI to BIOS Boot

2014-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:21:56 -0300, Facu Curti wrote:

   When I installed gentoo, I do that with UEFI, and gpt partitions.
   But right now, I tried to install XEN, and this not works with EFI.
   I cant wait until somebody fix this problem, So i'm thinking to
   change EFI to BIOS boot.

 I could not fix it, so I'm going to format the computer. I will make a 
 backup from system,format as ms_dos, and then restore backup. 

The partition table format is not the same as the bootloader. It is quite
possible to use GPT partition tables with BIOS firmware, as long as you
have that 1MB partition of type EF02 at the start of the table.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Blockers problem: no ebuilds to satisfy media-libs/libpng:0/0=

2014-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 00:27:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 A second, blunt weapon, approach is to quickpkg libpng, unmerge libpng
 then emerge rawstudio back (or even -avuND world) and let portage get on
 with the business of figuring stuff out that will work

If that fails, unmerge rawstudio too. Run emerge -u @world then re-emerge
rawstudio. It may well clear the problem but even if it does not you are
now dealing with a single blocker on an up to date system.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] re: nVidia GeForce 210 and nvidia-drivers-334.21-r3

2014-04-14 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
I've had to replace my GPU today. Prior to attempting to start X with
the new GPU in, I thought I'd pull in the latest updates and reboot the
system. X wouldn't start as a result. I've googled for answers, but
haven't found a solution so far.

Here's the information that may be useful in narrowing down the problem.
I'd appreciate any input that'll guide me in the right direction.

Linux box1 3.12.13-gentoo #1 SMP Sun Mar 30 18:44:26 EEST 2014 i686
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-334.21-r3
equery -q u x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
+X
+acpi
-pax_kernel
+tools
-uvm

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce
210] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 8a93
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
Memory at f600 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
Memory at f400 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
I/O ports at b000 [size=128]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at f700 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting ?
Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1
Len=024 ?
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia

dmesg
[4.480310] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  334.21  Thu
Feb 27 15:04:33 PST 2014
[4.979692] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x25:0x:1155)
[4.979705] NVRM: rm_init_adapter failed for device bearing minor
number 0
[4.979712] NVRM: nvidia_frontend_open: minor 0, module-open()
failed, error -5


Xorg.0.log
[56.339] Current Operating System: Linux box1 3.12.13-gentoo #1 SMP
Sun Mar 30 18:44:26 EEST 2014 i686
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[56.454] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at
PCI:1:0:0.  Please
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): check your system's kernel log for
additional error
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): messages and refer to Chapter 8:
Common Problems in the
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): README for additional information.
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA
graphics device!
[57.192] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failing initialization of X screen 0
[57.192] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[57.192] (EE)
[57.192] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[57.192] (EE)
[57.192] (EE) Please also check the log file at
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional information.
[57.192] (EE)
[57.196] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.




Re: [gentoo-user] x11-terms/terminal - not found

2014-04-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:23:21 -0600
schrieb Joseph syscon...@gmail.com:

 What x11-terms/terminal was replaced with?
 I'm trying to emerge it and eix is showing me:
 
 eix x11-terms/terminal
 * x11-terms/terminal
  Available versions:  0.4.8 {dbus debug}
  Homepage:http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal/
  Description: A terminal emulator for the Xfce desktop environment
 
 But when I try to install it I get:
 
 emerge x11-terms/terminal
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy x11-terms/terminal.

eix offers some powerful search features, you should use them ;) .

% eix -sSC xfce -sS terminal
* x11-terms/xfce4-terminal
 Available versions:  0.4.8 ~0.6.2 0.6.2-r1 ~0.6.3 {dbus debug}
 Homepage:http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal/
 Description: A terminal emulator for the Xfce desktop environment

Looks like the package was simply renamed... on 28th December *2012*:

*xfce4-terminal-0.6.0 (28 Dec 2012)

  28 Dec 2012; Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org
  +xfce4-terminal-0.6.0.ebuild:
  Version bump with rename of x11-terms/terminal to x11-terms/xfce4-terminal.

It's really been a while since you refreshed the eix cache, hasn't it?

HTH
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't - Bjarne Stroustrup


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Re: [gentoo-user] x11-terms/terminal - not found

2014-04-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:04:24 +0200
schrieb Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de:

[...]
 eix offers some powerful search features, you should use them ;) .
 
 % eix -sSC xfce -sS terminal
 * x11-terms/xfce4-terminal
  Available versions:  0.4.8 ~0.6.2 0.6.2-r1 ~0.6.3 {dbus debug}
  Homepage:http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal/
  Description: A terminal emulator for the Xfce desktop environment
[...]

Which won't help you until you refresh the eix cache, of course :-/ .

-- 
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--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird portage behaviour

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 13 Apr 2014 22:48:43 Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:

 The real answer is almost certainly dynamic-deps.  The binary packages
 store the deps from BUILD time, while when you are installing things
 live, it allows the current ebuilds to update the deps even for
 installed packages.
 
 That means, after you install a package, if the deps in the ebuild are
 changed, portage will take that into account for source builds, but
 binary packages are LOCKED to the deps from the time they were built.
 
 Why dynamic-deps aren't available no matter what? Now that's a great
 question...

But I'd only just finished an emerge -eb world on the build host to re-create 
the packages. Nothing could have changed in the meantime.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Weird portage behaviour

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 14 Apr 2014 04:41:05 Tom Wijsman wrote:
 On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 22:00:10 +0100
 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
  How is it possible for portage to emerge packages differently when
  it's installing from packages?
 
 The difference is mostly accountable to build-time dependencies;
 without binpkg they need to be pulled in for the build, with binpkg
 there is no build thus those build-time dependencies aren't needed.
 
 The rest (only a small few) are accountable to the recorded
 dependencies in the binpkg being different from the dependencies of
 the ebuilds in the Portage tree; as dynamic dependencies* don't work
 entirely well with binpkgs and thus there is this small difference.
 
  * These propagate ebuild dependency changes to /var/db/pkg/.
 
 Here is a list of those that aren't installed along the binpkgs:
 
  $ diff -u list listk | sort -k4 | pcregrep -Mv '^\+\N*\n-' | grep '^-\['
---8

Many thanks for that little bit of magic. I've incorporated it into a simple 
script to find all the missed packages and list their atoms in a form suitable 
for piping into emerge.

I still think this is bad behaviour by portage. If portage's environment is 
identical in the two cases and I tell it to emerge -ek, the results should be 
identical to those if I tell it to emerge -e. I know that -e means empty-
tree but that sounds to me exactly like everything, so that's what I expect 
to get.

Thanks again to both of you - at least I can now be sure that I've rebuilt 
everything when I think I have. I hate to think how many things I've missed in 
the past.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] Weird Screen-Overlay problems after update

2014-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:20:12AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote

 was updated and I installed Linux 3.12.17 (vanilla) and recompiled
 the nvidia-drivers and finally the X11-modules, a really annoying
 thing happened:
 
 When a program uses the screen overlay technique (right word???) to
 display (mainly) videos (me-tv, flashplayer, Blender while rendering) 
 ANY and everything on any desktop, which has a black background (mutt,
 urxvt to only name a few) displays the video even the video
 application runs on a different desktop.
 
 Handling the desktops then becomes a masterpieces of focus and
 counting ;)
 
 I am using openbox, nvidia-drivers, linux 3.12.17 vanilla, me-tv,
 flashplayer, blender (daily build taken from blenders buildbot).
 
 What can I do to get rid of this effect?

  This seems to be a common problem with nvidia video cards using the
nvidia binary blobs.  I ran into it some time ago.  If you don't want to
get rid of the nvidia card, try the Nouveau open-source drivers.  You
won't get all the acceleration that the Nvidia binaries provide, but at
least you probably won't get the problems you have now.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] Weird portage behaviour

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:43:33 +0100
Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 Many thanks for that little bit of magic. I've incorporated it into a
 simple script to find all the missed packages and list their atoms in
 a form suitable for piping into emerge.

You might not want to do that; those are _build_ dependencies, not
_runtime_ dependencies. You don't need them for the package to run.
 
 I still think this is bad behaviour by portage. If portage's
 environment is identical in the two cases and I tell it to emerge
 -ek, the results should be identical to those if I tell it to emerge
 -e. I know that -e means empty- tree but that sounds to me exactly
 like everything, so that's what I expect to get.

It is correct behaviour; `emerge -ek` is similar to `emerge -e ; emerge
-c --with-bdeps=n`, where the `emerge -c --with-bdeps=n` unmerges the
build dependencies after the packages were build. As they are no longer
needed after that part; that is, if you don't intend to rebuild them.

 Thanks again to both of you - at least I can now be sure that I've
 rebuilt everything when I think I have. I hate to think how many
 things I've missed in the past.

No problem; be happy to now know you don't need that what misses. :)

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D



Re: [gentoo-user] Weird portage behaviour

2014-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:32:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

  That means, after you install a package, if the deps in the ebuild are
  changed, portage will take that into account for source builds, but
  binary packages are LOCKED to the deps from the time they were built.
  
  Why dynamic-deps aren't available no matter what? Now that's a great
  question...  
 
 But I'd only just finished an emerge -eb world on the build host to
 re-create the packages. Nothing could have changed in the meantime.

Those extra packages are build deps. When you emerge -k, you aren't doing
any building, so the build deps aren't needed. They need not even be
installed on that box, only on the one doing the building.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird Screen-Overlay problems after update

2014-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/04/2014 15:50, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:20:12AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote
 
 was updated and I installed Linux 3.12.17 (vanilla) and recompiled
 the nvidia-drivers and finally the X11-modules, a really annoying
 thing happened:

 When a program uses the screen overlay technique (right word???) to
 display (mainly) videos (me-tv, flashplayer, Blender while rendering) 
 ANY and everything on any desktop, which has a black background (mutt,
 urxvt to only name a few) displays the video even the video
 application runs on a different desktop.

 Handling the desktops then becomes a masterpieces of focus and
 counting ;)

 I am using openbox, nvidia-drivers, linux 3.12.17 vanilla, me-tv,
 flashplayer, blender (daily build taken from blenders buildbot).

 What can I do to get rid of this effect?
 
   This seems to be a common problem with nvidia video cards using the
 nvidia binary blobs.  I ran into it some time ago.  If you don't want to
 get rid of the nvidia card, try the Nouveau open-source drivers.  You
 won't get all the acceleration that the Nvidia binaries provide, but at
 least you probably won't get the problems you have now.
 

+1 to this

The nvidia blobs do work well as long as you use them the way they were
intended to be used.

The way they were intended to be used is the same way Windows uses them,
the Linux and Windows drivers share the bulk of the internal code and
Linux feature set most definitely is not the driving force here :-)

Which means some awesome things the X server can do simply do not work
with the blob. The blob also rips out most of the OpenGL and framebuffer
code and replaces it with it's own mysterious black magic, this can add
more wrinkles.

And finally, the Nvidia blob is not at all integrated with the kernel in
any meaningful way, so your running kernel usually ends up 2-4 versions
behind current.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Walters
I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list yesterday, and it 
has never shown up.  I had two sources that suggested that said bug is far more 
severe than most people think.  So this message is a test.




Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Walters

On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:

I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list yesterday, and it
has never shown up.  I had two sources that suggested that said bug is far more
severe than most people think.  So this message is a test.


So, is there a keyword block on the name of that bug?  This message posted, but 
the other one (I tried posting it twice - once yesterday, and once today), 
never showed up.





Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load x86_pkg_temp_thermal

2014-04-14 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 12 April 2014, at 4:10 pm, Alexander Kapshuk 
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 My '/var/log/rc.log' says:
 * Loading module x86_pkg_temp_thermal ...
 * Failed to load x86_pkg_temp_thermal
 [ !! ]
 
 'modprobe x86_pkg_temp_thermal' says:
 modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'x86_pkg_temp_thermal': No such device

I don't think the kernel should be attempting *itself* to load this module if 
it doesn't detect said hardware.

Is it possible this is mentioned in /etc/modprobe.d/ or somewhere?

I'd grep /etc before recompiling my kernel, on this one.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Blockers problem: no ebuilds to satisfy media-libs/libpng:0/0=

2014-04-14 Thread Stroller

On Sun, 13 April 2014, at 4:05 pm, Matthias Bethke matth...@towiski.de wrote:

 For the first time in years portage is driving me crazy. I'm trying to
 update my desktop after half a year in storage and … this is where
 it always gets stuck:
 
 ...
 | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy media-libs/libpng:0/0=.
 | (dependency required by -2.0-r1 [installed])
 | (dependency required by @selected [set])
 | (dependency required by @world [argument])

Unemerge media-libs/libpng and media-gfx/rawstudio, get stuff like @system, 
Portage and Python updated first.

As a general rule when updating old systems, remove all the packages you 
installed on it, update the base system, and then reinstalling user apps will 
go easy.

Stroller. 




Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:
  I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list
  yesterday, and it has never shown up.  I had two sources that
  suggested that said bug is far more severe than most people think.
  So this message is a test.
 
 So, is there a keyword block on the name of that bug?  This message
 posted, but the other one (I tried posting it twice - once yesterday,
 and once today), never showed up.

Is it this message?

http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Heartbleed-bug-td278708.html#a278743

Or is it another one?

http://search.gmane.org/?query=author=Chris+Waltersgroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=date

(The GMANE links are currently broken in the search, try again later)

Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin / gist.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D



Re: [gentoo-user] Failed to load x86_pkg_temp_thermal

2014-04-14 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 04/14/2014 07:05 PM, Stroller wrote:
 On Sat, 12 April 2014, at 4:10 pm, Alexander Kapshuk 
 alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 My '/var/log/rc.log' says:
 * Loading module x86_pkg_temp_thermal ...
 * Failed to load x86_pkg_temp_thermal
 [ !! ]

 'modprobe x86_pkg_temp_thermal' says:
 modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'x86_pkg_temp_thermal': No such device
 I don't think the kernel should be attempting *itself* to load this module if 
 it doesn't detect said hardware.

 Is it possible this is mentioned in /etc/modprobe.d/ or somewhere?

 I'd grep /etc before recompiling my kernel, on this one.

 Stroller.


Thanks for your input.

x86_pkg_temp_thermal is not found either in filenames, nor in the files
themselves residing in /etc.

I've set CONFIG_X86_PKG_TEMP_THERMAL to 'n' in my kernel config file,
and recompiled the kernel.

Everything seems OK so far.




Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Walters

On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:


On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:

I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list

.snip.

Is it this message?

http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Heartbleed-bug-td278708.html#a278743

Or is it another one?

http://search.gmane.org/?query=author=Chris+Waltersgroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=date

(The GMANE links are currently broken in the search, try again later)

Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin / gist.


It is another one.  It has links to two articles.  One states that sources 
close to the NSA state that the NSA has been exploiting this bug for at least 
two years, and may have blocked it from coming to light sooner than it did. 
The other link basically describes the bug as catastrophic.  They both 
included two links (both the full links and shortened versions).  They would 
have been posted 4.13.2014 and 4.14.2014.


They never showed up, on this list AND on the GnuPG mailing list.  The message 
immediately showed up on the TOR list.





Re: [gentoo-user] Weird Screen-Overlay problems after update

2014-04-14 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [14-04-14 17:23]:
 On 14/04/2014 15:50, Walter Dnes wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:20:12AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote
  
  was updated and I installed Linux 3.12.17 (vanilla) and recompiled
  the nvidia-drivers and finally the X11-modules, a really annoying
  thing happened:
 
  When a program uses the screen overlay technique (right word???) to
  display (mainly) videos (me-tv, flashplayer, Blender while rendering) 
  ANY and everything on any desktop, which has a black background (mutt,
  urxvt to only name a few) displays the video even the video
  application runs on a different desktop.
 
  Handling the desktops then becomes a masterpieces of focus and
  counting ;)
 
  I am using openbox, nvidia-drivers, linux 3.12.17 vanilla, me-tv,
  flashplayer, blender (daily build taken from blenders buildbot).
 
  What can I do to get rid of this effect?
  
This seems to be a common problem with nvidia video cards using the
  nvidia binary blobs.  I ran into it some time ago.  If you don't want to
  get rid of the nvidia card, try the Nouveau open-source drivers.  You
  won't get all the acceleration that the Nvidia binaries provide, but at
  least you probably won't get the problems you have now.
  
 
 +1 to this
 
 The nvidia blobs do work well as long as you use them the way they were
 intended to be used.
 
 The way they were intended to be used is the same way Windows uses them,
 the Linux and Windows drivers share the bulk of the internal code and
 Linux feature set most definitely is not the driving force here :-)
 
 Which means some awesome things the X server can do simply do not work
 with the blob. The blob also rips out most of the OpenGL and framebuffer
 code and replaces it with it's own mysterious black magic, this can add
 more wrinkles.
 
 And finally, the Nvidia blob is not at all integrated with the kernel in
 any meaningful way, so your running kernel usually ends up 2-4 versions
 behind current.
 
 
 -- 
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 

Hi,

thanks for the advice. Sine Blender is heavily using CUDA and the
nvidia card to render (cycles), I have to use nvidia-drivers,
nvidia-settings and the nvidia-cuda-toolkit.

So I want to step back one release of the drivers, because that had
worked fine for me.

Older ebuilds fo nvidia-drivers are provided...but why all older
ebuilds except for the newest one of nvidia-settings and
nvidia-cuda-toolkit are wiped off my harddisc as soon I have upgraded
to a (for me) not wirking nvidia-driver-ebuild?

Any chance to go back or ma I urged to live with described
features or to quit blender and use the noveau-drivers?

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
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On 04/14/2014 12:58 PM, Chris Walters wrote:
 On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
 Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:
 I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list
 .snip.
 Is it this message?

 http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Heartbleed-bug-td278708.html#a278743

 Or is it another one?

 http://search.gmane.org/?query=author=Chris+Waltersgroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=date


 (The GMANE links are currently broken in the search, try again later)

 Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin / gist.
 
 It is another one.  It has links to two articles.  One states that
 sources close to the NSA state that the NSA has been exploiting this bug
 for at least two years, and may have blocked it from coming to light
 sooner than it did. The other link basically describes the bug as
 catastrophic.  They both included two links (both the full links and
 shortened versions).  They would have been posted 4.13.2014 and 4.14.2014.
 
 They never showed up, on this list AND on the GnuPG mailing list.  The
 message immediately showed up on the TOR list.
 
 
 
OMG! The NSA is moderating our user mailing list11!!ONE!

Sorry, I had to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:58:05 -0400
Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
  On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
  Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  On 4/14/2014 11:58 AM, Chris Walters wrote:
  I tried to post a message on that certain bug to this list
 .snip.
  Is it this message?
 
  http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Heartbleed-bug-td278708.html#a278743
 
  Or is it another one?
 
  http://search.gmane.org/?query=author=Chris+Waltersgroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=date
 
  (The GMANE links are currently broken in the search, try again
  later)
 
  Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin /
  gist.
 
 It is another one.  It has links to two articles.  One states that
 sources close to the NSA state that the NSA has been exploiting this
 bug for at least two years, and may have blocked it from coming to
 light sooner than it did. The other link basically describes the bug
 as catastrophic.  They both included two links (both the full links
 and shortened versions).  They would have been posted 4.13.2014 and
 4.14.2014.
 
 They never showed up, on this list AND on the GnuPG mailing list.
 The message immediately showed up on the TOR list.

Definitely sounds like there would be some problem somewhere.

Can you please file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org in the Mailing
Lists component of the Gentoo Infrastructure product? Provide as
much details as possible; eg, extract the mail from your Sent folder.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Weird portage behaviour

2014-04-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 14 Apr 2014 16:15:57 Tom Wijsman wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:43:33 +0100
 Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
  Many thanks for that little bit of magic. I've incorporated it into a
  simple script to find all the missed packages and list their atoms in
  a form suitable for piping into emerge.
 
 You might not want to do that; those are _build_ dependencies, not
 _runtime_ dependencies. You don't need them for the package to run.

At last, I understand the difference. I might even pipe the list into
emerge -cv for kicks.

Pity I needed a full-size clue-stick to beat the lesson in  :-(

Thanks again - also to Neil.

-- 
Regards
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] x11-terms/terminal - not found

2014-04-14 Thread Joseph

Yes, updating the eix cache solved the problem.

Thanks.
--
Joseph


On 04/14/14 14:04, Marc Joliet wrote:

Am Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:23:21 -0600
schrieb Joseph syscon...@gmail.com:


What x11-terms/terminal was replaced with?
I'm trying to emerge it and eix is showing me:

eix x11-terms/terminal
* x11-terms/terminal
 Available versions:  0.4.8 {dbus debug}
 Homepage:http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal/
 Description: A terminal emulator for the Xfce desktop environment

But when I try to install it I get:

emerge x11-terms/terminal
Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy x11-terms/terminal.


eix offers some powerful search features, you should use them ;) .

% eix -sSC xfce -sS terminal
* x11-terms/xfce4-terminal
Available versions:  0.4.8 ~0.6.2 0.6.2-r1 ~0.6.3 {dbus debug}
Homepage:http://www.xfce.org/projects/terminal/
Description: A terminal emulator for the Xfce desktop environment

Looks like the package was simply renamed... on 28th December *2012*:

*xfce4-terminal-0.6.0 (28 Dec 2012)

 28 Dec 2012; Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org
 +xfce4-terminal-0.6.0.ebuild:
 Version bump with rename of x11-terms/terminal to x11-terms/xfce4-terminal.

It's really been a while since you refreshed the eix cache, hasn't it?

HTH
--
Marc Joliet
--
People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't - Bjarne Stroustrup




Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Walters

On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 12:00:43 -0400
Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:

.snip.

Is it this message?

http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Heartbleed-bug-td278708.html#a278743

Or is it another one?

http://search.gmane.org/?query=author=Chris+Waltersgroup=gmane.linux.gentoo.usersort=date

(The GMANE links are currently broken in the search, try again later)

Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin / gist.


Pastebin / gist?  How would I do that?



Actually, pay no mind... Re: [gentoo-user] Am I being blocked from posting?

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Walters

On 4/14/2014 3:05 PM, Chris Walters wrote:

On 4/14/2014 12:17 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:

.snip.

Feel free to put the entire mail including headers on a pastebin / gist.


Pastebin / gist?  How would I do that?


It is not really that important to me to post something that, by definition, is 
off-topic anyway.  Unsubstantiated rumors from anonymous 'sources', is not 
really all that important to me.  Nor is if the NSA knew about the bug 2+ 
years, 2 seconds, or just when the bug was identified.  They've already 
suffered quite a beating from Snowden's 'information' (would someone tell me 
HOW exactly a private contractor could have that level of security clearance, 
anyway? never mind).


The bug's fixed - no damage done.  We just have to trust that or get off the 
grid entirely.




Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-networkd: simpler config for my network

2014-04-14 Thread Pavel Volkov

On Monday, 31 March 2014 16:14:44 MSK, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

Aside from all the discussions around systemd, I simply gave the new
systemd-networkd a try.

It helped me to simplify my config for my main machine where I run KVM
for virtualization and need a network bridge:



I browsed through the man pages before and it seemed like systemd-networkd 
can't yet be configured to enable SLAAC on IPv6 interface.

Am I right?
And this is such a common configuration...



Re: [gentoo-user] re: nVidia GeForce 210 and nvidia-drivers-334.21-r3

2014-04-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/14/2014 07:39 AM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 I've had to replace my GPU today. Prior to attempting to start X with
 the new GPU in, I thought I'd pull in the latest updates and reboot the
 system. X wouldn't start as a result. I've googled for answers, but
 haven't found a solution so far.

Nvidia dropped support for the GeForce 210 in their 334 series. It's
still there in the 331 series, though, if you want to downgrade.

Same thing happened to me a while ago with my old 7800GT. I don't have
any reason to buy a new GPU, so I switched to nouveau.

Reference: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html (pick a version, and
hit Supported Products).





[gentoo-user] foo2zjs make install error

2014-04-14 Thread Dutch Ingraham
Hi all:

I'm having a problem installing a print driver, foo2zjs, downloaded and
compiled from source.  This is a driver for a HP P1505n printer. (hplip
is not an option as this printer needs further firmware that is not
generally available).  The error message I'm getting at the make install
command is:

Error - foomatic-rip is not installed!
Install foomatic packages for your OS
make [install test] Error 1

My box is a Dell 780 with no-frills Gentoo.  I also have a Dell 3500
with the same basic setup, but on that box the install went fine and the
printer works.

To stay out of TL;DR territory, a short list of what I have checked so far:

- re-installed cups, cups-filters, foomatic-db, and foomatic-db-engine,
with the same use flags on both working and non-working installs;

- removed the foo2zjs package and re-downloaded and compiled from scratch;

- started and stopped the cupsd service;

- eix shows same cups and foomatic packages installed on each;

- neither the working nor non-working install use hplip;

- tried the Gentoo package foo2zjs- and the temp.build.log threw
the exact same error as building from source;

- Googled error message - no useful information.

(As a side note, I cannot install foomatic-filters, as it conflicts with
cups-filters, which has dependency issues and cannot be removed.)

If anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd be appreciative. If
further information is needed, please let me know. Thanks!



[gentoo-user] Questions about CPU settings in kernel and USE

2014-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
  I'm (re)installing Gentoo on an older AMD notebook.  The output from
less /proc/cpuinfo includes...

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 16
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) II P320 Dual-Core Processor
stepping: 3
microcode   : 0x1b6
cpu MHz : 2100.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb 
rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni 
monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a 
3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt nodeid_msr hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock 
nrip_save
bogomips: 4189.59
TLB size: 1024 4K pages

  Now for the questions

* In make menuconfig, I'm not sure which of 2 CPU options to select in
  Processor type and features  ---
Processor family (*)  ---

( ) Athlon/Duron/K7
( ) Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8

  Which one do I go with?

* I believe that pni == sse3 (with *TWO* s) Is that correct?
* The cpuinfo output shows sse4a.  Is that the same as the sse4_1
  USE flag, or is it different

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications