[gentoo-user] Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw printers
Hi, Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw now have an official linux support from the manufacter with their driver Linux_UFRIILT_PrinterDriver_V100_us_EN.tar.gz . I have spent 2 days trying to make it work on gentoo, without success. Even people on Ubuntu, which is a distribution supposed to have been tested by Canon, fail to use it. Did someone meet some success printing on these printers from gentoo ? I can provide a preliminary ebuild if someone is interested. -- Hervé
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 09/07/2014 22:48, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: On 09/07/2014 18:44, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Please don't use pastebin sites - if your output is too long to copy and paste into the body of the message, then please attach it as a plain text file. If you name it output.txt then most people, with GUI mail clients, will be able to read it just by double-clicking. Most pastebin services expire old pastes periodically (not to mention that pastebin services are hardly profitable, and close down all the time) whereas these mailing list messages are archived in multiple places and are referenced for years. If you attach these files as plain text then they'll be archived, useful to other people with the same problem in the future. I'll agree, this is excellent advise. However, I use game.org to read and post to gentoo-user. So how do you attached a txt file to those postings via gmane? Options to get the txt file attachemnent into the proper record? gentoo-user is a mailing list. It receives mail to the list address and forwards them on to all subscribers. It's all done by mail. Now someone has built an email-web_thingy gateway. It is deficient by design and as you point out doesn't do big posts AT ALL. That's too bad, but you chose that option and now you must deal with it's deficiencies and shortcomings. Sorry for the tone but that really is how it is. What tone? You call that tone ? You're slipping. been to too many 'team' meetings lately? Agreeded; just pointing it out. I find gmane too useful so I tend to prune and post succinctly. Rarely do I need to put up a big long post. But I do read and snip before posting; so my approach is a valid as any. focus, snip and post goes a long way, but it does require some reading and editing skills, just to set the record straight. Noobs can follow who they like, as they like, when they like When needed I just use an nntp font end.. (oh, had my own solution already?) tricky; precious; tricky You're slipping, you old_fart ? Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here James -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) -- Neil Bothwick Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] syslog-ng problem after updating to 3.8
Hi. I was using syslog-ng 3.7 without any errors, but after upgrading
to 3.8, every day during my cron.daily, I get two copies of the message
which says
error: syslog-ng:7 duplicate log entry for /var/log/messages
I could not find any release notes to tell me what they did which would
cause this error -- anybody have a clue?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
@version: 3.4
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-admin/syslog-ng/files/3.4/syslog-ng.conf.gentoo,v
1.2 2013/06/02 01:18:35 mr_bones_ Exp $
#
# Syslog-ng default configuration file for Gentoo Linux
# https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=426814
@include scl.conf
options { dir_perm(0755); perm(0644); chain_hostnames(no);
threaded(yes);
chain_hostnames(no);
# The default action of syslog-ng is to log a STATS line
# to the file every 10 minutes. That's pretty ugly after a while.
# Change it to every 12 hours so you get a nice daily update of
# how many messages syslog-ng missed (0).
stats_freq(43200);
# The default action of syslog-ng is to log a MARK line
# to the file every 20 minutes. That's seems high for most
# people so turn it down to once an hour. Set it to zero
# if you don't want the functionality at all.
mark_freq(3600);
keep_hostname(yes); };
source local {
unix-dgram(/run/systemd/journal/syslog);
udp(ip(0.0.0.0) port(514));
internal();
};
# kern.=debug /var/log/kernel
filter f_1 {
facility(kern) and level(debug..emerg);
};
destination d_1 {
file(/var/log/kernel create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_1); destination(d_1); };
# kern.err /dev/console
filter f_2 {
facility(kern) and level(err..emerg);
};
destination d_2 {
file(/dev/console create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_2); destination(d_2); };
# *.debug;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none/var/log/messages
filter f_3 {
level(debug..emerg);
};
filter f_4 {
not facility(mail);
};
filter f_5 {
not facility(news);
};
filter f_6 {
not facility(authpriv);
};
destination d_3 {
file(/var/log/messages create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_3); filter(f_4); filter(f_5); filter(f_6);
destination(d_3); };
# authpriv.*/var/log/secure
filter f_7 {
facility(authpriv) and level(debug..emerg);
};
destination d_4 {
file(/var/log/secure create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_7); destination(d_4); };
# mail.*/var/log/maillog
filter f_8 {
facility(mail) and level(debug..emerg);
};
destination d_5 {
file(/var/log/maillog create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_8); destination(d_5); };
# *.emerg *
filter f_9 {
level(emerg);
};
destination d_6 {
usertty(*);
};
log { source(local); filter(f_9); destination(d_6); };
# news.=crit /var/log/news/news.crit
filter f_10 {
facility(news) and level(crit..emerg);
};
destination d_7 {
file(/var/log/news/news.crit create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_10); destination(d_7); };
# news.=err /var/log/news/news.err
filter f_11 {
facility(news) and level(err..emerg);
};
destination d_8 {
file(/var/log/news/news.err create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_11); destination(d_8); };
# news.notice/var/log/news/news.notice
filter f_12 {
facility(news) and level(notice..emerg);
};
destination d_9 {
file(/var/log/news/news.notice create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_12); destination(d_9); };
# local7.*/var/log/boot.log
filter f_13 {
facility(local7) and level(debug..emerg);
};
destination d_10 {
file(/var/log/boot.log create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_13); destination(d_10); };
# local0.* /var/log/dhcpcd.log
filter f_14 {
facility(local0) and level(debug..emerg);
};
destination d_11 {
file(/var/log/dhcpcd.log create_dirs(yes));
};
log { source(local); filter(f_14); destination(d_11); };
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici
cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Wed, 9 July 2014, at 4:21 pm, List Reader gentooglel...@gmail.com wrote: ... When seeking help, it's best to come prepared. Someone volunteering their time doesn't want to waste that time fumbling about. That's where wgetpaste comes in handy. Make sure you have merged app-text/wgetpaste, and then you're ready to be helped. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#Collecting_Additional_Information Thanks, I have fixed the wiki now. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Wed, 9 July 2014, at 5:44 pm, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: … I'll agree, this is excellent advise. However, I use game.org to read and post to gentoo-user. So how do you attached a txt file to those postings via gmane? Options to get the txt file attachemnent into the proper record? Gmane refuses to post long replies. Gmane allows one to read and post from a variety of machines, particularly useful … Reading their FAQ, Gmane seem very friendly and helpful: http://gmane.org/faq.php You might take this up with them directly: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.discuss Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 12:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng problem after updating to 3.8
On 10/07/2014 13:27, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Hi. I was using syslog-ng 3.7 without any errors, but after upgrading
to 3.8,
I take it you mean 3.4.7 - 3.4.8?
every day during my cron.daily, I get two copies of the message
which says
error: syslog-ng:7 duplicate log entry for /var/log/messages
I could not find any release notes to tell me what they did which would
cause this error -- anybody have a clue?
It's been a while since I dealt with that beast called syslog-ng, but
looking at your .conf I see:
log { source(local); filter(f_3); filter(f_4); filter(f_5); filter(f_6);
destination(d_3); };
Single log entries can easily match many of those filters leading to
duplicate entries all being written to d_3
The final flag is what deals with that. Use it in your filters to stop
processing for that message when matched.
I can't explain the change since 3.4.8 - perhaps it's a bug fix that
didn;t make it into the ChangeLog?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, 10 July 2014, at 4:11 am, List Reader gentooglel...@gmail.com wrote: ... What does it mean to satisfy =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1? equery g =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 * Searching for chardet2.2.1 in dev-python ... * dependency graph for dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 `-- dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 amd64 `-- dev-python/setuptools-2.2 (dev-python/setuptools) amd64 [python_targets_python2_6(-)? python_targets_python2_7(-)? python_targets_python3_2(-)? python_targets_python3_3(-)? python_targets_python3_4(-)? python_targets_pypy(-)? -python_single_target_python2_6(-) -python_single_target_python2_7(-) -python_single_target_python3_2(-) -python_single_target_python3_3(-) -python_single_target_python3_4(-) -python_single_target_pypy(-)] `-- dev-lang/python-2.6.9 (=dev-lang/python-2.6.8-r3) M[package.mask] `-- dev-lang/python-2.7.6 (=dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r3 (=dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.3.3 (=dev-lang/python-3.3.2-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.4.1 (dev-lang/python) ~amd64 … This is getting messy, I didn't think I would need so many unstable packages. I'm very confused, too. =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 offers to emerge just fine on my system, but when I try to emerge Blender I get a similar mess to you. It seems to be related to this PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET business. I understand that PYTHON_TARGETS means build for this version of Python but am not familiar with the single target part. Perhaps someone else can explain? Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? Stroller. PS: please trim quoted text when posting. The previous replies are only quoted to give the reader context. We probably only need the context of the last one or two replies, not of several.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My wife says I'm a nice guy again. I think we'll miss the old Alan :) -- Neil Bothwick Never ask a geek why, just nod your head and slowly back away signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here A politically correct Alan? RUBBISH mate rubbish! (howz my tone?) There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. Yes, I too had to give up 'riding the tiger' some years ago. It's really bad on your health. I found being wise with money and enjoying my (limited consulting) work leaves me with a far more rewarding life, and a lower tax bill. ;-) James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 15:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My wife says I'm a nice guy again. I think we'll miss the old Alan :) A, c'mon, give the new guy a chance. You'll like him I'm sure. Besides, I'm a sysadmin. You can trust me implicitly in this :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 16:52, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here A politically correct Alan? RUBBISH mate rubbish! (howz my tone?) Your tone is fine :-) In my circle of friends there would be an expletive or three in there, but IIRC cussing isn't your thing so I reckon we can let it stand There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. Yes, I too had to give up 'riding the tiger' some years ago. It's really bad on your health. I found being wise with money and enjoying my (limited consulting) work leaves me with a far more rewarding life, and a lower tax bill. :-) And for my next party trick, I'll see if I can get the man thread back on track to helping the OP build blender! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Local portage ebuilds
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org wrote: For bonus points, you can publish your overlay on e.g. github to get a better feel for what it's like committing to the tree. If only... :) Now now, you presume what I code is useful, particularly to others Too generous a comment, at this stage, as I'm a wee bit rusty, particularly on advanced math types of algos.[1] That said, since you are both TOO KIND, you've just won free tickets to Alan's School of Curtsy (Courtesy/Curtesy). (da limrick; it goes like this) sweet sounds bewildered blankness sour reverberations abusive pressure waves Then you butcher the SA version of english with da Brittish upper brow_scow as you scold the poster into quiet sumbisssion sublimeD into your vexed viewpoint. Only then do you graduate (emerge/evolve?) from Alan's School of Permittivity. hth, James [1] http://www.dune-project.org/ (working its way into protage, thanks to Jouni!)
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 13:51, Stroller wrote: On Thu, 10 July 2014, at 4:11 am, List Reader gentooglel...@gmail.com wrote: ... What does it mean to satisfy =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1? equery g =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 * Searching for chardet2.2.1 in dev-python ... * dependency graph for dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 `-- dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 amd64 `-- dev-python/setuptools-2.2 (dev-python/setuptools) amd64 [python_targets_python2_6(-)? python_targets_python2_7(-)? python_targets_python3_2(-)? python_targets_python3_3(-)? python_targets_python3_4(-)? python_targets_pypy(-)? -python_single_target_python2_6(-) -python_single_target_python2_7(-) -python_single_target_python3_2(-) -python_single_target_python3_3(-) -python_single_target_python3_4(-) -python_single_target_pypy(-)] `-- dev-lang/python-2.6.9 (=dev-lang/python-2.6.8-r3) M[package.mask] `-- dev-lang/python-2.7.6 (=dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r3 (=dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.3.3 (=dev-lang/python-3.3.2-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.4.1 (dev-lang/python) ~amd64 … This is getting messy, I didn't think I would need so many unstable packages. I'm very confused, too. =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 offers to emerge just fine on my system, but when I try to emerge Blender I get a similar mess to you. It seems to be related to this PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET business. I understand that PYTHON_TARGETS means build for this version of Python but am not familiar with the single target part. Perhaps someone else can explain? The python targets are an expanded USE which is usually set in the profile but can be over-ridden in make.conf. My emerge --info shows: PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 As I understand it, PYTHON_TARGETS lists all the available python versions that ebuilds may use. If an ebuild is coded to use one in the list, then great and the build proceeds. PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET defines the python version an ebuild must use if it only wants python and does not specify a version. This all applies at build time so it's not quite the same thing as eselect python which specifies what happens at *runtime* The best way to maintain this is to let the profile do it (which is why most folks don't have any of this in make.conf). You can over-ride the profile but then the user must maintain the list[1]. If I do this: PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 python3_4 emerge -pv blender then I get one last error about USE=gflags for dev-cpp/glog, adding that to package.use makes portage happy. SO I think the OP just needs to add this to make.conf: PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 python3_4 and then tweak package.use if necessary Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? No, it means he needs to tell portage that 3.4 is available for ebuilds to build against. Confused? Yeah. me too. [1] I recall a thread over a year ago where this was explained and I found the quote I remember: If you are running a modern system with only Python 2.7 3.2 installed, then you don't have to do anything. The defaults will simply fit you, and let you keep your system up-to-date when new Python versions are deployed. However, if you'd like to use another set of Python implementations, you will need to set PYTHON_TARGETS in your make.conf file appropriately. It's referenced here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-946824-start-0.html To be honest, I'm starting to find Gentoo is being too bloody clever for it's own good, introducing complexity in an effort to get portage to always do the right thing, whatever right may be in this context. We have this python stuff, we have subslots (together with the portage output from 6 months ago that no living person ever understood) and recently portage is starting to make weird choices for people due to the use of || ( ) in ebuilds. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Local portage ebuilds
On 10/07/2014 17:27, James wrote: Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org wrote: For bonus points, you can publish your overlay on e.g. github to get a better feel for what it's like committing to the tree. If only... :) Now now, you presume what I code is useful, particularly to others Too generous a comment, at this stage, as I'm a wee bit rusty, particularly on advanced math types of algos.[1] That said, since you are both TOO KIND, you've just won free tickets to Alan's School of Curtsy (Courtesy/Curtesy). (da limrick; it goes like this) sweet sounds bewildered blankness sour reverberations abusive pressure waves Then you butcher the SA version of english with da Brittish upper brow_scow as you scold the poster into quiet sumbisssion sublimeD into your vexed viewpoint. Only then do you graduate (emerge/evolve?) from Alan's School of Permittivity. methinks I have started something here :-) And we only just got over the thread about WWII aircraft, fancy that! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 05:31:51PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/07/2014 13:51, Stroller wrote: On Thu, 10 July 2014, at 4:11 am, List Reader gentooglel...@gmail.com wrote: ... What does it mean to satisfy =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1? equery g =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 * Searching for chardet2.2.1 in dev-python ... * dependency graph for dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 `-- dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 amd64 `-- dev-python/setuptools-2.2 (dev-python/setuptools) amd64 [python_targets_python2_6(-)? python_targets_python2_7(-)? python_targets_python3_2(-)? python_targets_python3_3(-)? python_targets_python3_4(-)? python_targets_pypy(-)? -python_single_target_python2_6(-) -python_single_target_python2_7(-) -python_single_target_python3_2(-) -python_single_target_python3_3(-) -python_single_target_python3_4(-) -python_single_target_pypy(-)] `-- dev-lang/python-2.6.9 (=dev-lang/python-2.6.8-r3) M[package.mask] `-- dev-lang/python-2.7.6 (=dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r3 (=dev-lang/python-3.2.5-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.3.3 (=dev-lang/python-3.3.2-r2) amd64 `-- dev-lang/python-3.4.1 (dev-lang/python) ~amd64 ? This is getting messy, I didn't think I would need so many unstable packages. I'm very confused, too. =dev-python/chardet-2.2.1 offers to emerge just fine on my system, but when I try to emerge Blender I get a similar mess to you. It seems to be related to this PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET business. I understand that PYTHON_TARGETS means build for this version of Python but am not familiar with the single target part. Perhaps someone else can explain? The python targets are an expanded USE which is usually set in the profile but can be over-ridden in make.conf. My emerge --info shows: PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 As I understand it, PYTHON_TARGETS lists all the available python versions that ebuilds may use. If an ebuild is coded to use one in the list, then great and the build proceeds. PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET defines the python version an ebuild must use if it only wants python and does not specify a version. This all applies at build time so it's not quite the same thing as eselect python which specifies what happens at *runtime* The best way to maintain this is to let the profile do it (which is why most folks don't have any of this in make.conf). You can over-ride the profile but then the user must maintain the list[1]. If I do this: PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 python3_4 emerge -pv blender then I get one last error about USE=gflags for dev-cpp/glog, adding that to package.use makes portage happy. SO I think the OP just needs to add this to make.conf: PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_3 python3_4 and then tweak package.use if necessary Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? No, it means he needs to tell portage that 3.4 is available for ebuilds to build against. Confused? Yeah. me too. [1] I recall a thread over a year ago where this was explained and I found the quote I remember: If you are running a modern system with only Python 2.7 3.2 installed, then you don't have to do anything. The defaults will simply fit you, and let you keep your system up-to-date when new Python versions are deployed. However, if you'd like to use another set of Python implementations, you will need to set PYTHON_TARGETS in your make.conf file appropriately. It's referenced here: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-946824-start-0.html To be honest, I'm starting to find Gentoo is being too bloody clever for it's own good, introducing complexity in an effort to get portage to always do the right thing, whatever right may be in this context. We have this python stuff, we have subslots (together with the portage output from 6 months ago that no living person ever understood) and recently portage is starting to make weird choices for people due to the use of || ( ) in ebuilds. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com As I understand it, PYTHON_TARGETS lists all the available python versions that ebuilds may use. If an ebuild is coded to use one in the list, then great and the build proceeds. Yes! Yes! Thank you. Thats what I thought. This all applies at build time so it's not quite the same thing as eselect python which specifies what happens at *runtime* Ah! I see. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-946824-start-0.html; Yeah! What he said. No, it means he needs to tell portage that 3.4 is available for ebuilds to build against. Confused? Yeah. me too. emerge =dev-lang/python-3.4 ? Why not? I've got three slots already. SO I think the OP just needs to add this to
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 20:11, List Reader wrote: Okay, I see. Thank you so much. Soo so much. I thought I was going round the twist, or hopelesly ignorant. I couln't understand why emerge didn't offer me --autounmask-write, so I could dispatch-conf and move on. I was having similar problems with media-gfx/freecad and some others, but eselecting the apropriate target/slot thing made it go. Okay, that's it for today. My eys hurt. I'll do it in the morning. you guys are great. I'm going to bed. Stick with it, it gets easier. Portage *does* have it's special way of looking at the world, but after a while it starts to make some kind of sense. It just doesn't happen quickly, you have to persist with the damn thing :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/07/2014 20:11, List Reader wrote: Okay, I see. Thank you so much. Soo so much. I thought I was going round the twist, or hopelesly ignorant. I couln't understand why emerge didn't offer me --autounmask-write, so I could dispatch-conf and move on. I was having similar problems with media-gfx/freecad and some others, but eselecting the apropriate target/slot thing made it go. Okay, that's it for today. My eys hurt. I'll do it in the morning. you guys are great. I'm going to bed. Stick with it, it gets easier. Portage *does* have it's special way of looking at the world, but after a while it starts to make some kind of sense. It just doesn't happen quickly, you have to persist with the damn thing :-) After a little over 10 years, I'm still trying to get portage. Just when I start to make sense of something, they change the thing. I wonder if they do it just to pick on me. Let's make the error spit out backwards just to screw with Dale. Yep. I bet that's it. ROFL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 9 July 2014 07:18:27 CEST, Dan O. d...@redchops.com wrote: I don't believe you pasted everything you meant to. That paste doesn't show what packages would need to be emerged. Please do not top post. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10 July 2014 13:41:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/07/2014 12:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. That is a very good benefit. I only feel like getting rid of everyone except my family. :) -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 21:42, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/07/2014 20:11, List Reader wrote: Okay, I see. Thank you so much. Soo so much. I thought I was going round the twist, or hopelesly ignorant. I couln't understand why emerge didn't offer me --autounmask-write, so I could dispatch-conf and move on. I was having similar problems with media-gfx/freecad and some others, but eselecting the apropriate target/slot thing made it go. Okay, that's it for today. My eys hurt. I'll do it in the morning. you guys are great. I'm going to bed. Stick with it, it gets easier. Portage *does* have it's special way of looking at the world, but after a while it starts to make some kind of sense. It just doesn't happen quickly, you have to persist with the damn thing :-) After a little over 10 years, I'm still trying to get portage. Just when I start to make sense of something, they change the thing. I wonder if they do it just to pick on me. Let's make the error spit out backwards just to screw with Dale. Yep. I bet that's it. ROFL You're /almost/ right Actually, some clever dev wrote a script that polls this list, and every 23 times Dale uses the word thingie it makes a semi-random change to the portage code. Each init-thingie counts as three regular thingies. The changes are semi-random not fully properly random because the changes are crafted to mess with Dale's head. So now you know. It's not you and it isn't your fault :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Perhaps someone else can explain? Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? Stroller. I believe this thread (prolly) explains what's up with the latest version of blender? https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-1325 hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 09:55:53PM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 9 July 2014 07:18:27 CEST, Dan O. d...@redchops.com wrote: I don't believe you pasted everything you meant to. That paste doesn't show what packages would need to be emerged. Please do not top post. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Sorry, I had just re-set up my mail client and forgot to change that key setting. Something like that really should be a default setting, in my mind. -- Dan Oriani redchops.com (Website perpetually under construction) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw printers
Hervé Guillemet herve at guillemet.org writes: Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw now have an official linux support from the manufacter with their driver Linux_UFRIILT_PrinterDriver_V100_us_EN.tar.gz . I have spent 2 days trying to make it work on gentoo, without success. Even people on Ubuntu, which is a distribution supposed to have been tested by Canon, fail to use it. Gentoo suggest to use this driver package: net-print/gutenprint for canon printers, via this document: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Printing#Gutenprint_Driver Did someone meet some success printing on these printers from gentoo ? I can provide a preliminary ebuild if someone is interested. Sorry I've never worked on setting up a canon printer. hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw printers
Hervé Guillemet herve at guillemet.org writes: Hi, Canon LBP7100Cn/LBP7110Cw now have an official linux support from the manufacter with their driver Linux_UFRIILT_PrinterDriver_V100_us_EN.tar.gz . I have spent 2 days trying to make it work on gentoo, without success. Even people on Ubuntu, which is a distribution supposed to have been tested by Canon, fail to use it. Did someone meet some success printing on these printers from gentoo ? I can provide a preliminary ebuild if someone is interested. Reading these posts may suggest a compiled solution as your remedy? Naturally, you'll have to adjust what steps taken to your gentoo environment. http://radu.cotescu.com/how-to-install-canon-lbp-printers-in-ubuntu/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315665 hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 09:01:51PM +, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Perhaps someone else can explain? Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? Stroller. I believe this thread (prolly) explains what's up with the latest version of blender? https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-1325 hth, James I believe this thread (prolly) explains what's up with the latest version of blender? https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-1325 hth, James Interesting. Thanks. That's the solution I was ariving at. I have already ~amd64'd =dev-lang/python-3.4.0. Hey! Let's go with a round four slots of python. I can count that One hand.
Re: [gentoo-user] media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 08:53:59PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/07/2014 20:11, List Reader wrote: Okay, I see. Thank you so much. Soo so much. I thought I was going round the twist, or hopelesly ignorant. I couln't understand why emerge didn't offer me --autounmask-write, so I could dispatch-conf and move on. I was having similar problems with media-gfx/freecad and some others, but eselecting the apropriate target/slot thing made it go. Okay, that's it for today. My eys hurt. I'll do it in the morning. you guys are great. I'm going to bed. Stick with it, it gets easier. Portage *does* have it's special way of looking at the world, but after a while it starts to make some kind of sense. It just doesn't happen quickly, you have to persist with the damn thing :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Stick with it, it gets easier. Portage *does* have it's special way of looking at the world, but after a while it starts to make some kind of sense. It just doesn't happen quickly, you have to persist with the damn thing :-) Thanks. I can't leave it alone. A gave Arch a go, but Portage is amazing. Tormenting at times, but amazing. I can't bear it any other way. p.s. I can't figure out how to quote easily in mutt.
