[gentoo-user] Memory leak
My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome,
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: rpms and debs are both cpio files so the easy way is to unpack them and see what's going on: rpm2cpio name.rpm | cpio -iv --make-directories dpkg -x somepackage.deb ~/temp/ For deb packages, you can use binutils' ar; there's no need for dpkg. (IIRC, if you use rpm2tar, you don't need rpm installed unlike rpm2cpio, but I'm not 100% sure.)
Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my 2nd eth0?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: My DSL router modem is at 192.168.123.254. I have an HDHomerun network TV tuner that insists on coming up somewhere in the 169.254.X.Y block. Up until upgrading from 32 to 64 bits, I was able to see a 2nd eth0 (i.e. eth0:1) using the following /etc/conf.d/net setup... config_eth0= 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 169.254.1.1/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255 routes_eth0= default via 192.168.123.254 metric 20 192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0 169.254.0.0/16 via 169.254.1.1 metric 0 The 2nd interface is no longer being set up. As amatter of fact, it appears to be totally unavailable. E.g [d531][root][~] /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop * Unmounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Bringing down interface eth0 [d531][root][~] ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address You cannot bring up an ip alias if the base ip address isn't set. [d531][root][~] ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 [d531][root][~] So my system doesn't support even the concept of an alias for eth0. Looking at the ifconfig manpage... interface The name of the interface. This is usually a driver name fol- lowed by a unit number, for example eth0 for the first Ethernet interface. If your kernel supports alias interfaces, you can specify them with eth0:0 for the first alias of eth0. You can use them to assign a second address. To delete an alias inter- face use ifconfig eth0:0 down. Note: for every scope (i.e. same net with address/netmask combination) all aliases are deleted, if you delete the first (primary). I see If your kernel supports alias interfaces. During the upgrade, I built the kernel from square 1. I already ran into problems with not enabling FUSE in the new kernel, which killed MTP until I enabled it. I wouldn't be surprised if I've disabled some kernel parameter which is required to enable interface aliases. I didn't see anything obvious in make menuconfig. A Google search turned up a gazillion examples of how to create an alias using ifconfig. That's not what I want. I want the kernel setting that allows creating alias interfaces. CONFIG_IP_ALIAS was dropped with v2.4 From 2.2 alias.txt: For IP aliasing you must have IP_ALIAS support included by static linking. From 2.4 alias.txt: IP-aliases are additional IP-adresses/masks hooked up to a base interface by adding a colon and a string when running ifconfig. This string is usually numeric, but this is not a must. IP-Aliases are avail if CONFIG_INET (`standard' IPv4 networking) is configured in the kernel. From 3.19 alias.txt: IP-aliases are an obsolete way to manage multiple IP-addresses/masks per interface. Newer tools such as iproute2 support multiple address/prefixes per interface, but aliases are still supported for backwards compatibility.
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:05:59AM +0100, Alain Didierjean wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, I set mine in an xorg config file to get qwertz not only in KDM but all of X by default: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/input.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc102 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantdeadkeys EndSection -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. There is so much sand in Northern Africa that if it were spread out it would completely cover the Sahara Desert. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot up error messages. Init thingy needed now??
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: My partitions are something like this. Normal partitions, /boot and root itself. /usr and /var on LVM. Gentoo dropped support for booting without mounting /usr early in boot a while back. That isn't to say that it would have instantly stopped working, but there is no requirement for package maintainers to support this configuration, and many upstreams have been moving in directions that will tend to break this. There are many ways to get around this. The most common is to mount /usr from your initramfs. Another option is to run a script early during boot to mount /usr, ensuring that the necessary tools to do so are on your root partition. Another option is to put /usr on your root partition. I'm sure there are other options as well, but in general you can't always rely on your root partition being able to mount /usr these days. FTR, there's also a busybox sep-usr USE flag. It installs a static busybox at /ginit. When you use init=/ginit at the kernel cmdline, it mounts /usr early and then executes /sbin/init.
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
- Mail original - De: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Février 2015 12:19:25 Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak On Sunday 22 Feb 2015 11:05:59 Alain Didierjean wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, Have a look in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/ If your desired keymap is say: fr-latin9.map.gz then add fr-latin9 in your /etc/conf.d/keymaps: keymap=fr-latin9 then reboot, or use the loadkeys command: loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-latin9.map.gz if you don't want to reboot. I do have keymap set to fr-latin9. It works for the Desktopk, not for kdm !! To Frank Steinmetzger : I used to set the keymap in xorg, there's no more a xorg file in my setup. Too bad!
Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my 2nd eth0?
On Sunday 22 Feb 2015 04:52:34 Walter Dnes wrote: My DSL router modem is at 192.168.123.254. I have an HDHomerun network TV tuner that insists on coming up somewhere in the 169.254.X.Y block. Up until upgrading from 32 to 64 bits, I was able to see a 2nd eth0 (i.e. eth0:1) using the following /etc/conf.d/net setup... config_eth0= 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 169.254.1.1/16 broadcast 169.254.255.255 Is there a reason you need to define a broadcast if you are using CIDR notation? routes_eth0= default via 192.168.123.254 metric 20 192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0 Isn't the above redundant if you have defined an identical default route? 169.254.0.0/16 via 169.254.1.1 metric 0 The 2nd interface is no longer being set up. As amatter of fact, it appears to be totally unavailable. E.g [d531][root][~] /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop * Unmounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Bringing down interface eth0 [d531][root][~] ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address [d531][root][~] ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast 192.168.123.255 [d531][root][~] So my system doesn't support even the concept of an alias for eth0. Looking at the ifconfig manpage... Unless you have set up: modules=!iproute2 netifrc will not use ifconfig. interface The name of the interface. This is usually a driver name fol- lowed by a unit number, for example eth0 for the first Ethernet interface. If your kernel supports alias interfaces, you can specify them with eth0:0 for the first alias of eth0. You can use them to assign a second address. To delete an alias inter- face use ifconfig eth0:0 down. Note: for every scope (i.e. same net with address/netmask combination) all aliases are deleted, if you delete the first (primary). I see If your kernel supports alias interfaces. During the upgrade, I built the kernel from square 1. I already ran into problems with not enabling FUSE in the new kernel, which killed MTP until I enabled it. I wouldn't be surprised if I've disabled some kernel parameter which is required to enable interface aliases. I didn't see anything obvious in make menuconfig. A Google search turned up a gazillion examples of how to create an alias using ifconfig. That's not what I want. I want the kernel setting that allows creating alias interfaces. The kernel option you want is: CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES=y Also, if you want to set up the HDHomerun to do the right thing, i.e. NOT use local-link addresses, then according to Google you could try: “A static IP address can be configured using the following command (the quotes are required as shown): Format: hdhomerun_config old ip set /sys/ipaddr new ip subnet gateway Example: hdhomerun_config 169.254.34.98 set /sys/ipaddr 10.10.20.43 255.255.255.0 10.10.20.1 The TECH3 can be configured for DHCP operation (default) using the following command: Format: hdhomerun_config old ip set /sys/ipaddr dhcp Example: hdhomerun_config 169.254.34.98 set /sys/ipaddr dhcp” I think different variables can be saved in its /sys/boot, including a static IP address, so that they persist over reboots. HTH -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:05 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/03/2015 03:29 AM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: This morning I got waiting on lockfile foo in /usr/portage/distfiles locking not available from my nfs3 clients when trying to download needed source files. I don't recall having this problem back in my former nfs3-only days. Maybe I've forgotten something obvious that I did back then? There used to be an rpc.lockd daemon but lockd's been moved to a kernel module for nfsv3 and to nfsd for nfsv4. RHEL 5 has it (nfs-utils 1.09) and RHEL 6 doesn't (nfs-utils 1.2) so it must've been dropped with v1.1 or v1.2. I don't know when it was dropped in Gentoo terms (probably 6-7 years ago). Does this ring a bell? Yes, I remember rpc.lockd. Does file locking work for an nfsv3 mount after you re-enable nfsv4 in your kernel config? Hm. No, I still get the same No locks available error. If no, then are you setting static ports for statd and lockd and allowing access to these ports with iptables? N, that's way above my pay grade :) I mentioned earlier in this thread that, when I run this command: #mount.nfs a6://usr/portage /usr/portage -o nfsvers=3 it hangs indefinitely, but if I hit Ctrl-c and quickly re-run the same command it succeeds. (I've been trying to measure what quickly means but it seems to vary, seems random, but always less than a minute.) I now remember you saying earlier. Sorry. I can't think of how or why! Does using mount -v ... show different outputs for the failing and successful mounts? I'm posting this info mainly for the benefit of future googlers because nfs4 is working well and I don't really *need* nfs3. If you're interested in this problem I'd be happy to try any/all debugging experiments, but otherwise don't spend any more time on it. Many thanks for your help, Tom You're welcome, with apologies for the delayed response.
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
On Sunday 22 Feb 2015 11:05:59 Alain Didierjean wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, Have a look in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/ If your desired keymap is say: fr-latin9.map.gz then add fr-latin9 in your /etc/conf.d/keymaps: keymap=fr-latin9 then reboot, or use the loadkeys command: loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-latin9.map.gz if you don't want to reboot. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
On Sunday 22 Feb 2015 14:53:19 Alain Didierjean wrote: - Mail original - De: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Février 2015 12:19:25 Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak On Sunday 22 Feb 2015 11:05:59 Alain Didierjean wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, Have a look in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/ If your desired keymap is say: fr-latin9.map.gz then add fr-latin9 in your /etc/conf.d/keymaps: keymap=fr-latin9 then reboot, or use the loadkeys command: loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-latin9.map.gz if you don't want to reboot. I do have keymap set to fr-latin9. It works for the Desktopk, not for kdm !! I assume that you also have your LINGUAS set accordingly too? Have you checked the keyboard settings in KDE in case KDM can be configured there too? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Alain Didierjean alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, Just a suggestion that more accurate subject lines are more likely to get you help, since an X11 expert might skip over an email thread that purports to be discussing memory leaks, while the valgrind experts are probably annoyed at the same time. It also makes the archives more useful for posterity. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] how to solve this dependency problem?
On Sunday 22 February 2015 00:35:59 lee wrote: how would I solve this dependency problem: media-libs/openjpeg:2 (media-libs/openjpeg-2.1.0:2/7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with media-libs/openjpeg-2.1:2 required by (app-text/mupdf-1.3_p20140118:0/1.3::gentoo, installed) ^ ^^^ Is there even a difference between version 2.1 and 2.1.0? It's telling you that mupdf requires openjpeg at version less than 2.1, but portage wants to install version equal to 2.1. You haven't told us why portage wants version 2.1.0, but have you tried remerging mupdf? -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory leak
On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:53, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:05:59AM +0100, Alain Didierjean wrote: My so called memory, located somewhere in what's left of my old brain. I can't remember nor figure out how to set kdm keymap to azerty. Help welcome, I set mine in an xorg config file to get qwertz not only in KDM but all of X by default: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/input.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc102 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantdeadkeys EndSection The right place for this in a modern X11 is evdev (event device). The other input devices are deprecated in favor of evdev. There is an old news item with regard to this in the portage. You might find it from some archive. Any how the X11 is the right place to set the keymap. Then it is set system wise and affects all display-managers you might have. -- -Matti
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: repos.conf migration lost overlay priority
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: On a side note, someone should inform the portage devs that higher priorities should equal lower numbers. Don't do it the opposite way to the rest of the world, please :-P Why should low mean high? The rest of the world usually considers high as high and low as low. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: repos.conf migration lost overlay priority
On 02/22/2015 03:26 AM, lee wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: On a side note, someone should inform the portage devs that higher priorities should equal lower numbers. Don't do it the opposite way to the rest of the world, please :-P Why should low mean high? The rest of the world usually considers high as high and low as low. That's not how the real world deals with priority lists. If I have something urgent and I tell someone it's priority 10 they'll tell me to I'll have to deal with it faster than that. 1=First thing to do 2=Second thing to do etc... Dan
[gentoo-user] how to solve this dependency problem?
Hi, how would I solve this dependency problem: media-libs/openjpeg:2 (media-libs/openjpeg-2.1.0:2/7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with media-libs/openjpeg-2.1:2 required by (app-text/mupdf-1.3_p20140118:0/1.3::gentoo, installed) ^^^^ Is there even a difference between version 2.1 and 2.1.0? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine on Gentoo
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com writes: Did anybody install nomashine on Gentoo? I run onto this instruction, but did not try it yet: http://www.thejach.com/view/2014/9/installing_nomachine_on_gentoo I'm running nxclient-3.5xxx and nxserver-freenx-0.7xxx and I'm afraid something will stop working on my server if I install nomashine I've an old laptop and tried Xubuntu Fedora but none of them have nxclient-3.5xxx I've found freenx-client on SUSE distro but that distro mostly comes with Gnome or KDE desktop (too heavy for my old laptop). Sounds like you might want to look at LTSP? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] how to solve this dependency problem?
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 1:35 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Hi, how would I solve this dependency problem: media-libs/openjpeg:2 (media-libs/openjpeg-2.1.0:2/7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with media-libs/openjpeg-2.1:2 required by (app-text/mupdf-1.3_p20140118:0/1.3::gentoo, installed) ^^^^ Is there even a difference between version 2.1 and 2.1.0? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable. What's the output of 'emerge -auND --tree --unordered-display @world'?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs
For deb packages, you can use binutils' ar; there's no need for dpkg. (IIRC, if you use rpm2tar, you don't need rpm installed unlike rpm2cpio, but I'm not 100% sure.) You are right, rpm2targz doesn't require rpm to be installed. I found I already had it installed yesterday (via libreoffice).
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
Jan Sever n...@email.cz writes: On 02/19/2015 08:02 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:26:05 PM lee wrote: Hi, how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng? The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them. You can just pipe the output of strings /var/log/messages to less. You can use strings(1) for systemd journal files also. Yeah and you can check whether it contains any binary data by diff (strings /var/log/messages) /var/log/messages Well, yes; see it this way: I never used syslog-ng before. When I had to fix some problems, I wanted to read the log files. Less showed them in some hexl-mode, and it has never done anything like that before. I didn't even know that it has this hexl-mode. So I googled for how to read those log files because I figured that syslog-ng perhaps uses some stupid binary format and that there might be some program you're supposed to read them with. That didn't turn up anything and it really sucked. How am I supposed to know that there's a combination of a three-year-old bug and totally unexpected behaviour of less preventing me from reading these logs? Try something like 'less /boot/vmlinuz-3.17.8-gentoo-r1' and you don't get hexl-mode. Why such a surprise when trying to read a log file? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] saslauthd startup parameters
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com writes: where are we supposed to set the parameters for saslauthd? I edited /etc/init.d/saslauthd, and that's probably not the right place to put them? There's probably a saslauthd file in /etc/conf.d Hm, I need to check again to be sure whether there is or isn't. If there is, then how is it included into the startup script? And why isn't there anything in /etc/default for it, where I would expect it? Or, more general, what are the criteria with Gentoo whether to put such a file into /etc/default or into /etc/conf.d? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I hate systemd ... What good are log files you can't read? You can't read syslog-ng log files without some reading software, usually a combination of cat, grep and less. systemd does it all with journalctl. There are good reasons to not use systemd, this isn't one of them. To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one. Plain text can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue systems you booted or with software available on different operating systems. It can be also be processed with scripts and sent as email. You can probably even read it on your cell phone. You can still read log files that were created 20 years ago when they are plain text. Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? I can't even read them on a working system. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 February 2015, at 8:40 pm, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them. I believe this may be bug 406623. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406623 That's almost three years old and should apparently be fixed? It's only been closed in the last few weeks. Still I wonder why it took so long to fix it. See for example, comment 36, November last year (i.e. 3 or 4 months old), This isn't resolved unless commit f4ae768 is backported or =3.5.6 is stabilised. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406623#c36 Since you haven't told us what version of syslog-ng you're running, I think it's reasonable to suspect you've not updated it recently. The server was installed the week before the last, starting with the latest live DVD. It has been updated. I can't tell what version it is because it's at work. Of course the characters could be left in your logfile from months ago, if you've not been rotating logs. If it's not that bug, though, you should prolly file a new one. Dunno, I've edited the file and removed the null characters. Time will tell whether new ones will be logged or not. IIUC, syslog-ng handles rotating the logs. Do I need to do something to make it rotate them? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:48 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 February 2015, at 8:40 pm, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them. I believe this may be bug 406623. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406623 That's almost three years old and should apparently be fixed? It's only been closed in the last few weeks. Still I wonder why it took so long to fix it. See for example, comment 36, November last year (i.e. 3 or 4 months old), This isn't resolved unless commit f4ae768 is backported or =3.5.6 is stabilised. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=406623#c36 Since you haven't told us what version of syslog-ng you're running, I think it's reasonable to suspect you've not updated it recently. The server was installed the week before the last, starting with the latest live DVD. It has been updated. I can't tell what version it is because it's at work. Of course the characters could be left in your logfile from months ago, if you've not been rotating logs. If it's not that bug, though, you should prolly file a new one. Dunno, I've edited the file and removed the null characters. Time will tell whether new ones will be logged or not. IIUC, syslog-ng handles rotating the logs. Do I need to do something to make it rotate them? syslog-ng, as long as I remember, has never rotated its logs. You need logrotate (or something similar) to do it for you. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I hate systemd ... What good are log files you can't read? You can't read syslog-ng log files without some reading software, usually a combination of cat, grep and less. systemd does it all with journalctl. There are good reasons to not use systemd, this isn't one of them. To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one. Plain text can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue systems you booted or with software available on different operating systems. It can be also be processed with scripts and sent as email. You can probably even read it on your cell phone. You can still read log files that were created 20 years ago when they are plain text. Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? Yes, you can. I can't even read them on a working system. If that's true (which I highly doubt, more probably you don't know how to read them), then it's a bug and should be reported and fixed. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one. Plain text can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue systems you booted or with software available on different operating systems. It can be also be processed with scripts and sent as email. You can probably even read it on your cell phone. You can still read log files that were created 20 years ago when they are plain text. Doing any of that stuff requires the use of software capable of reading text files. It isn't like you can just interpret the magnetic fields on your disk with your eyes. Sure, there are a lot more utilities that can read text files than journal files, but you just need to arrange to have them handy. They'll be ubiquitous before long since every distro around will end up needing them. Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? I can't even read them on a working system. You just type journalctl to read the live system logs. For offline use you just type journalctl --file=filename. Or you can just run strings on the file I imagine if you're desperate. If it doesn't work on a working system then your system isn't working. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 22 February 2015 20:57:43 Dale wrote: I think you need this: app-admin/logrotate Then I think a cron package is needed to run that, set to daily here I think. It comes with logrotate: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate The script does but if you don't have a cron package installed, nothing will run to rotate the logs. Maybe my message wasn't worded correctly? It's been a long week. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
lee wrote: IIUC, syslog-ng handles rotating the logs. Do I need to do something to make it rotate them? I think you need this: app-admin/logrotate Then I think a cron package is needed to run that, set to daily here I think. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] saslauthd startup parameters
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 01:07:55 +0100, lee wrote: There's probably a saslauthd file in /etc/conf.d Hm, I need to check again to be sure whether there is or isn't. If there is, then how is it included into the startup script? And why isn't there anything in /etc/default for it, where I would expect it? Or, more general, what are the criteria with Gentoo whether to put such a file into /etc/default or into /etc/conf.d? /etc/conf.d is an openrc feature. Any script in /etc/init.d should read the corresponding file in conf.d. It is openrc's way of separating configuration from the init scripts. If the file doesn't exist, create it, but most packages include an example conf.d file. -- Neil Bothwick Did you hear about the blind prostitute? You have to hand it to her. pgpoN55CRN0ek.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
On Sunday 22 February 2015 20:57:43 Dale wrote: I think you need this: app-admin/logrotate Then I think a cron package is needed to run that, set to daily here I think. It comes with logrotate: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate -- Rgds Peter.
