Re: [gentoo-user] RTL8192CU

2015-03-21 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Was the firmware for the driver in question installed as well?

What's the output of 'lspci -k' and 'lsusb -v' for your device?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Today I've bought a new USB wi-fi adapter which has rtl8192cu chip. I've
 plugged it into my lubuntu computer and it worked out of the box, however
 soon it drops the connection. I googled it and found out that many people
 have the same problem with this chip ( but mostly with *buntu flavours). I
 also found the workaround here: https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
 This box will be soon ( I hope ) will be transferred to Gentoo. I wonder if
 some one here is using this chip with Gentoo with new kernels, does it run
 ok and if this problem of *buntu specific? Thanks

 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] RTL8192CU

2015-03-21 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Alexander Kapshuk 
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was the firmware for the driver in question installed as well?

 What's the output of 'lspci -k' and 'lsusb -v' for your device?

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Today I've bought a new USB wi-fi adapter which has rtl8192cu chip. I've
 plugged it into my lubuntu computer and it worked out of the box, however
 soon it drops the connection. I googled it and found out that many people
 have the same problem with this chip ( but mostly with *buntu flavours). I
 also found the workaround here: https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
 This box will be soon ( I hope ) will be transferred to Gentoo. I wonder if
 some one here is using this chip with Gentoo with new kernels, does it run
 ok and if this problem of *buntu specific? Thanks

 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com



Apologies for top-posting.


Re: [gentoo-user] RTL8192CU

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 10:36:08 +0200
Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was the firmware for the driver in question installed as well?
 
 What's the output of 'lspci -k' and 'lsusb -v' for your device?

It works, so yes, firmare is installed. Module's name is rtl8192cu. It just 
drops the connection after a while, this is a problem
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:42 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Today I've bought a new USB wi-fi adapter which has rtl8192cu chip. I've
  plugged it into my lubuntu computer and it worked out of the box, however
  soon it drops the connection. I googled it and found out that many people
  have the same problem with this chip ( but mostly with *buntu flavours). I
  also found the workaround here: https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
  This box will be soon ( I hope ) will be transferred to Gentoo. I wonder if
  some one here is using this chip with Gentoo with new kernels, does it run
  ok and if this problem of *buntu specific? Thanks
 
  --
  German gentger...@gmail.com
 
 


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: crossdev setup questions for distcc usage

2015-03-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 02:02:19PM +, James wrote

 I'm interested in exactly what you are doing, plus extending the
 cross compile to arm architectures and running on top of clusters
 of gentoo systems; please continue to post back what you discover.
 For this sort of (cluster compiling) experimentation, folks build
 custom 'frameworks' so you might have some luck adding 'framework'
 to your keyword searches related to distributed compiling.

  I'm simply trying to offload compiling from my ancient, underpowered
netbook (14 hours to build seamonkey!!!) to my desktop.  I'd like to be
able to transparently run emerge from the netbook, have the desktop
machine do the grunt work, and install the compiled binaries and
associated /etc/* files on the netbook.  This assumes both machines are
connected on my home LAN.

  Since you mentioned arm architectures, it's ironic that the wiki
crossdev instructions now point to the embedded cross-compiler site
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/

  I've followed the instructions chapter 2 for installing crossdev and
it appears to work.  Note that my desktop machine is a 64-bit install...

===
[d531][root][~] i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc --version
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc (Gentoo 4.9.2 p1.2, pie-0.6.2) 4.9.2
Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[d531][root][~] echo 'int main(){return 0;}'  ctest.c
[d531][root][~] i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Wall ctest.c -o ctest
[d531][root][~] file ctest
ctest: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
[d531][root][~]
===

  I'm now reading up on...
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc/Cross-Compiling
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distcc

...to figure out how to launch it from my netbook.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] Nouveau KMS Xorg-setup with multiple screens

2015-03-21 Thread Matti Nykyri
Hello

I have problems. I'm migrating from nvidia proprietary driver to nouveau driver 
because I wan't utilize KMS.

The server is connected to two separate displays in separate rooms. The first 
display is showing tv programs and mostly runs @50Hz frame rate. The second is 
displaying movies and hence runs at 23.97Hz. The programs sync to VBLANK! 
Nobody can stand the tearing of video without it! With nvidia and UMD I had two 
screens and everything worked perfectly.

So with this setup it's necessary to have two screens, right?

Is it possible to have 2 screens with KMS and nouveau driver?

-- 
Matti


Re: [gentoo-user] RTL-tm NICs (Was RTL8192CU)

2015-03-21 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Mar 21, 2015, at 12:06, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
 I saw some recommendations on this one from people using linux

The manufacturer doesn't support Linux officially. I would not buy a USB NIC 
unless that was the only choice! The chipset was not mentioned on the 
manufacturers site but searching the net shows it is AR9271 and the module is 
ath9k_htc. On top of that you need to download atheros firmware and install 
that to your kernel.

It has WPS setup. Some drivers with this have huge security hole that even if 
you disable WPS it remains on. If WPS is on there is practically no security in 
you WiFi network. In that case using a VPN is the only choice.

I would not recommend it, but I have no personal experience with the particular 
chipset. Although I don't recommend WiFi either ;) ...without a proper VPN.

-- 
-Matti


[gentoo-user] Re: Bluetooth Input Devices

2015-03-21 Thread Thomas Mori
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:51:12 -0400
Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote:

 On Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:53:42 AM Thomas Mori wrote:
  Hi guys
  
  I have stumbled on the Bluetooth Input Devices section in
  wiki.gentoo.org [1]; however, I am not finding the Driver L2CAP
  protocol support in my kernel [2]. I am not seeing the driver L2CAP
  protocol anywhere [3]. I am wondering if the Wiki is slightly
  outdated or am I not using the proper kernel for this task? 
  
  Having said all of the above though, how should I enable Bluetooth
  Input Devices? :) 
  
  Thanks for your support!
  
  [1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Input_devices
 
 Looks like it's part of the bluetooth core now (CONFIG_BT).
 

Awesome. Thank you. 




Re: [gentoo-user] RTL-tm NICs (Was RTL8192CU)

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 08:03:29 +0200
Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote:

  On Mar 19, 2015, at 20:46, Ralf ralf+gen...@ramses-pyramidenbau.de wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  I had a rtl8192ce in my laptop. Nothing but problems with Linux. Don't
  know why, but the signal strength always was much better when using Windows.
 
 I've had nothing but problems with RTL-chipsets. But if you buy ~10$ NICs 
 they just don't work like 400$ ones.
 
  No more Realtek WiFi cards for me.

Hi Matti. What about this one: 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
I saw some recommendations on this one from people using linux

 +1
 
 -- 
 -Matti


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 Does it make sense to install a partition table on a RAID-1 device?

When I was using mdadm I would do it all the time.  It is the easiest
way to do RAID with devices of different sizes.  You just set up
multiple arrays across partitions of the same sizes and then combine
everything with LVM.


-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] RTL-tm NICs (Was RTL8192CU)

2015-03-21 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Mar 19, 2015, at 20:46, Ralf ralf+gen...@ramses-pyramidenbau.de wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I had a rtl8192ce in my laptop. Nothing but problems with Linux. Don't
 know why, but the signal strength always was much better when using Windows.

I've had nothing but problems with RTL-chipsets. But if you buy ~10$ NICs they 
just don't work like 400$ ones.

 No more Realtek WiFi cards for me.
+1

-- 
-Matti


Re: [gentoo-user] RTL8192CU

2015-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 06:00:24 -0400, German wrote:

  Was the firmware for the driver in question installed as well?
  
  What's the output of 'lspci -k' and 'lsusb -v' for your device?  
 
 It works, so yes, firmare is installed. Module's name is rtl8192cu. It
 just drops the connection after a while, this is a problem

You cannot assume that because it works, the firmware is there. The RTL
NIC in my Asus Vivo Mini MythTV frontend complained about missing
firmware at boot, but it still worked. Check dmesg, you may need firmware
to fix your problems.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Speak softly and carry a cellular phone.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi list,

Hi.

 In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I wasn't having any issues with
 systemd. Well, I guess I lied, although I didn't know about it at the
time.

 My laptop works fine, no issues.

 My desktop, however, has an issue, but only while rebooting. I use mdadm
 to access my IMSM raid, and during the reboot process, the last message
 I see is (from memory, so it's not exact):

 Stopping mdmon...

 And it hangs there.

 The journal shows this:
 =
 -- Reboot --
 Mar 18 20:48:42 osoikaze systemd-journal[485]: Journal stopped
 Mar 18 20:48:42 osoikaze systemd-shutdown[1]: Sending SIGTERM to
 remaining processes...
 Mar 18 20:48:41 osoikaze systemd[1]: Shutting down.

 =

 mdmon is normally stopped right at the end, so it should be a part of
 'Sending SIGTERM to remaining processes'. The Journal stops, then from
 what I gather, it hangs on the next one, which is mdmon. I have left it
 for a half an hour and it doesn't do anything.

 When rebooting:

 =
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md/raid10:md126: active with 4 out of 4
 devices
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md/raid10:md126: not clean -- starting
 background reconstruction
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdi
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdh
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdg
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdf
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdi
 Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdg
 =

 Indicating that mdmon was not stopped properly. (The array starts a
 rebuild.) Checking /proc/mdstat confirms this.

 Now this is the odd thing: `systemctl poweroff` works fine! It shuts
 everything down, and turns my workstation off without corrupting the
 RAID array!

 So why does `systemctl reboot` not want to work? I'm a little confused.

What kind of initramfs are you using?  Supposedly, the only difference
between poweroff and reboot is that the former turns off the machine and
reboot does a reset. In either case, systemd pivots back to the initramfs
before umounting everything, so perhaps there lies the problem.

 I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd:
 - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility
 symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot,
 runlevel, and shutdown

 Should I enable that USE flag?

No. In Gentoo in particular the SysV compatibility is completely useless.

 (By the way, KDE shows the same behaviour. If I shutdown with the K
 Menu, it works. Reboot from the K Menu hangs.)

KDE (as GNOME, Xfce, and everything else) uses logind, so it's equivalent
to do systemctl poweroff or click Power Off in your DE.

I would bet on the initramfs.

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


[gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread German
I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the optimal USE 
flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about to emerge it with 
the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, 
sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or remove something from USE, 
feel free to tell me. Thanks!

-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread Philip Webb
150321 German wrote:
 I am about to emerge Mutt : what are the optimal USE flags for a novice ?
 I am going to use it with gmail.

I've been a happy use of Mutt since c 1998 ; I don't use Gmail.

 I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags :
 berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp.

In my system :

  root:518 ~ eix ^mutt$
  [I] mail-client/mutt
  Available versions:  1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug doc 
gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux sidebar 
slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet}
  Installed versions:  1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls pop 
slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls -nntp 
-qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet)

HTH

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd:
 - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility
 symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot,
 runlevel, and shutdown

 Should I enable that USE flag?

It removes sysvinit (and systemd-sysv-utils if it's installed) and
turns the listed binaries into symlinks to systemd.



Re: [gentoo-user] RTL-tm NICs (Was RTL8192CU)

2015-03-21 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 21 March 2015, at 6:03 am, Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote:
 
 I've had nothing but problems with RTL-chipsets. But if you buy ~10$ NICs 
 they just don't work like 400$ ones.

$10!?!? I paid $2 each, including delivery, for a couple of rtl8192cu / 
RTL8188CUS wifi dongles a year ago.

I actually bought them from different suppliers on eBay and, although they 
looked identical, they contained different RTL chipsets.

As I recollect, one worked perfectly one was flakey or worked not at all, but I 
was running them on an old PPC iMac and assumed that was the cause. I did a 
fair bit of debugging, intending to post to the Linux wifi driver developers 
list, before losing interest.

I kinda figured at such cheap prices I could, in future, afford to buy 2 or 3 
wifi cards from 2 to 4 different suppliers (so $8 - $24 total) and I'd be 
likely to find at least one batch that works perfectly. Everyone complains when 
they get a cheap shitty wifi card that doesn't work, but there is probably an 
element of confirmation bias to this - we forget about all the cheap shitty 
wifi adaptors that just work perfectly. Are the name brands really that much 
more reliable?

I originally read your comment as 10$ NICs just don't work like 40$ ones - 
realising that you wrote $400 is obviously a different matter. Reliability 
easily justifies $400 for the datacentre, but not for most home users.

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Daniel Frey
Hi list,

In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I wasn't having any issues with
systemd. Well, I guess I lied, although I didn't know about it at the time.

My laptop works fine, no issues.

My desktop, however, has an issue, but only while rebooting. I use mdadm
to access my IMSM raid, and during the reboot process, the last message
I see is (from memory, so it's not exact):

Stopping mdmon...

And it hangs there.

The journal shows this:
=
-- Reboot --
Mar 18 20:48:42 osoikaze systemd-journal[485]: Journal stopped
Mar 18 20:48:42 osoikaze systemd-shutdown[1]: Sending SIGTERM to
remaining processes...
Mar 18 20:48:41 osoikaze systemd[1]: Shutting down.

=

mdmon is normally stopped right at the end, so it should be a part of
'Sending SIGTERM to remaining processes'. The Journal stops, then from
what I gather, it hangs on the next one, which is mdmon. I have left it
for a half an hour and it doesn't do anything.

When rebooting:

=
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md/raid10:md126: active with 4 out of 4
devices
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md/raid10:md126: not clean -- starting
background reconstruction
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdi
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdh
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdg
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdf
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdi
Mar 18 20:49:39 osoikaze kernel: md: bindsdg
=

Indicating that mdmon was not stopped properly. (The array starts a
rebuild.) Checking /proc/mdstat confirms this.

Now this is the odd thing: `systemctl poweroff` works fine! It shuts
everything down, and turns my workstation off without corrupting the
RAID array!

So why does `systemctl reboot` not want to work? I'm a little confused.

I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd:
- - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility
symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot,
runlevel, and shutdown

Should I enable that USE flag?

(By the way, KDE shows the same behaviour. If I shutdown with the K
Menu, it works. Reboot from the K Menu hangs.)

Dan



[gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

Does it make sense to install a partition table on a RAID-1 device? I assume 
it would only include a single partition table, but it might prevent some 
programs from complaining they don't recognise the partition type. I have 
one such device for /boot and another for lvm2 volumes.

Secondly, has anyone here had problems with gparted? I tried to run it today 
to get a picture of my disk use, but it bombed out with Assertion 
(metadata_length  0) at dos.c:2305 in function add_logical_part_metadata 
failed.

I have a bug report prepared, but I wanted to check here before submitting 
it.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Will a 64-bit-no-multilib machine cross-compile 32-bit code?

2015-03-21 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=atom -mno-cx16 -msahf -mmovbe -mno-aes -mno-pclmul 
 -mno-popcnt -mno-abm -mno-lwp -mno-fma -mno-fma4 -mno-xop -mno-bmi -mno-bmi2 
 -mno-tbm -mno-avx -mno-avx2 -mno-sse4.2 -mno-sse4.1 -mno-lzcnt -mno-rtm 
 -mno-hle -mno-rdrnd -mno-f16c -mno-fsgsbase -mno-rdseed -mno-prfchw -mno-adx 
 -mfxsr -mno-xsave -mno-xsaveopt --param l1-cache-size=24 --param 
 l1-cache-line-size=64 --param l2-cache-size=512 -mtune=atom -fstack-protector 
 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-unwind-tables 
 -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables

   Is that correct (assuming that's my output)?


I should warn you against including all of those -mno-xxx flags. This
has been known to break the build process for packages like chromium,
which always wants to build with SSE4 support and toggles it off at
runtime. Passing -mno-sse4.1 causes a build failure as it tries to use
macros that are not defined.



Re: [gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 21 March 2015 11:18:44 Rich Freeman wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk 
wrote:
  Does it make sense to install a partition table on a RAID-1 device?
 
 When I was using mdadm I would do it all the time.  It is the easiest
 way to do RAID with devices of different sizes.  You just set up
 multiple arrays across partitions of the same sizes and then combine
 everything with LVM.

Thanks Rich.

I see I wasn't clear: I meant /dev/mdX resulting from combining /dev/sd[ab]X 
- I assume you meant the same.

Interesting that the installation doc doesn't mention it though. Or it 
didn't when I used it to build this box.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
 On Saturday 21 March 2015 11:18:44 Rich Freeman wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk
 wrote:
  Does it make sense to install a partition table on a RAID-1 device?

 When I was using mdadm I would do it all the time.  It is the easiest
 way to do RAID with devices of different sizes.  You just set up
 multiple arrays across partitions of the same sizes and then combine
 everything with LVM.

 Thanks Rich.

 I see I wasn't clear: I meant /dev/mdX resulting from combining /dev/sd[ab]X
 - I assume you meant the same.

 Interesting that the installation doc doesn't mention it though. Or it
 didn't when I used it to build this box.

Oh, I wouldn't install partitions on top of an md raid device.  I
probably would use it as an lvm physical volume though.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach

  In my system :
  
root:518 ~ eix ^mutt$
[I] mail-client/mutt
Available versions:  1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug 
  doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux 
  sidebar slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet}
Installed versions:  1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls 
  pop slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls 
  -nntp -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet)
  
  HTH
 
 Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail?

Hi,

In the past, I used it with gmail. I did not change any flag with or
without gmail.

My mutt flags:

berkdb crypt debug doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap mbox nls pop sasl
sidebar smime smtp ssl -kerberos -nntp -qdbm -selinux -slang
-tokyocabinet

I use Maildir, therefore I think mbox flag is useless.

JC


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 21:34:51 +0200
Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run
  poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from
  user? Thanks
 
  --
  German gentger...@gmail.com
 
 
 poweroff(1) says:
 If  you're  not  the superuser, you will get the message `must be supe‐
ruser'.
 
 Either run poweroff as the superuser, or if you're running Gnome, KDE,
 XFCE, etc., you may use the shutdown option available in those desktop
 environments.

No, I am trying to shutdown from a console
 
 Others might suggest other ways of doing it.


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 3:26:56 PM German wrote:
 If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run 
poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from user? 
Thanks
 
 

The command not found part is because /sbin and /usr/sbin and on gentoo it's 
not on your PATH env var by default.

I think it's supposed to be a security measure but really it provides no 
security whatsoever so I always add it to my path. After that you'll be able 
to shutdown if there's no other active sessions, otherwise you should be 
prompted for password.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Jc García
2015-03-21 14:01 GMT-06:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:47:16 -0400
 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  No, I am trying to shutdown from a console

 Well, the old answer would be that you need to use sudo to run it, as
 shutting down is a privileged operation.

 I suspect that the new answer is that with appropriate
 policykit/consolekit/etc settings you can probably allow somebody
 sitting at a physical console to shut down the system, or any
 logged-in user if you prefer.  However, I haven't actually set that up
 myself.

 Well, I am the only one sitting at the console :) Are there any key 
 combination which allows that? I can reboot even if I am a user with 
 Ctrl+Alt+Delete


Just use sudo to allow your user to shutdwon without
password(suders(5) manpage is your friend), and put an  alias in your
bashrc:
alias poweroff=sudo /sbin/poweroff



[gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread German
If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run poweroff 
from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from user? Thanks

-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, I am trying to shutdown from a console

Well, the old answer would be that you need to use sudo to run it, as
shutting down is a privileged operation.

I suspect that the new answer is that with appropriate
policykit/consolekit/etc settings you can probably allow somebody
sitting at a physical console to shut down the system, or any
logged-in user if you prefer.  However, I haven't actually set that up
myself.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  No, I am trying to shutdown from a console

 Well, the old answer would be that you need to use sudo to run it, as
 shutting down is a privileged operation.

 I suspect that the new answer is that with appropriate
 policykit/consolekit/etc settings you can probably allow somebody
 sitting at a physical console to shut down the system, or any
 logged-in user if you prefer.  However, I haven't actually set that up
 myself.

logind does that for you automagically™. The first seat has the rights to
poweroff or reboot the machine, and it can differentiate between local and
remote logins. You can check if your user session has the permissions to
poweroff/reboot via dbus:

$ gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.login1 --object-path
/org/freedesktop/login1 --method org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanPowerOff
('yes',)

$ gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.login1 --object-path
/org/freedesktop/login1 --method org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanReboot
('yes',)

But you need systemd to use logind1. There has been some attempts to
reimplement logind outside systemd, but I'm not sure how advanced they are.

This kind of problems were one of the reasons for creating logind.

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Alexander Kapshuk 
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run
 poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from
 user? Thanks

 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com


 poweroff(1) says:
 If  you're  not  the superuser, you will get the message `must be supe‐
ruser'.

 Either run poweroff as the superuser, or if you're running Gnome, KDE,
 XFCE, etc., you may use the shutdown option available in those desktop
 environments.

 Others might suggest other ways of doing it.


It's actually poweroff(8). Sorry.


Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 15:47:16 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  No, I am trying to shutdown from a console
 
 Well, the old answer would be that you need to use sudo to run it, as
 shutting down is a privileged operation.
 
 I suspect that the new answer is that with appropriate
 policykit/consolekit/etc settings you can probably allow somebody
 sitting at a physical console to shut down the system, or any
 logged-in user if you prefer.  However, I haven't actually set that up
 myself.

Well, I am the only one sitting at the console :) Are there any key combination 
which allows that? I can reboot even if I am a user with Ctrl+Alt+Delete
 
 -- 
 Rich
 


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:14:38 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 I see I wasn't clear: I meant /dev/mdX resulting from
 combining /dev/sd[ab]X 

If you're creating a RAID array from partitions, you don't need to create
further partitions. The only time I would partition an md device is if it
were created from whole disks.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Bagpipe for free: Stuff cat under arm. Pull legs, chew tail.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:44:22 -0400
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 150321 German wrote:
  I am about to emerge Mutt : what are the optimal USE flags for a novice ?
  I am going to use it with gmail.
 
 I've been a happy use of Mutt since c 1998 ; I don't use Gmail.
 
  I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags :
  berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp.
 
 In my system :
 
   root:518 ~ eix ^mutt$
   [I] mail-client/mutt
   Available versions:  1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug doc 
 gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux sidebar 
 slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet}
   Installed versions:  1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls pop 
 slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox -nls -nntp 
 -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet)
 
 HTH

Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail?
 
 -- 
 ,,
 SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
 ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
 TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
 
 


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 19:33:54 +0100
Jean-Christophe Bach jc.b...@schplaf.org wrote:

 
   In my system :
   
 root:518 ~ eix ^mutt$
 [I] mail-client/mutt
 Available versions:  1.5.22-r3 1.5.23-r5 ~1.5.23-r6 {berkdb crypt debug 
   doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap kerberos mbox nls nntp pop qdbm sasl selinux 
   sidebar slang smime smtp ssl tokyocabinet}
 Installed versions:  1.5.23-r5([2015-02-28 12:43:41])(crypt gdbm gnutls 
   pop slang smtp ssl -berkdb -debug -doc -gpg -idn -imap -kerberos -mbox 
   -nls -nntp -qdbm -sasl -selinux -sidebar -smime -tokyocabinet)
   
   HTH
  
  Thank you, but are there anyone around who uses Mutt with gmail?
 
 Hi,
 
 In the past, I used it with gmail. I did not change any flag with or
 without gmail.
 
 My mutt flags:
 
 berkdb crypt debug doc gdbm gnutls gpg idn imap mbox nls pop sasl
 sidebar smime smtp ssl -kerberos -nntp -qdbm -selinux -slang
 -tokyocabinet
 
 I use Maildir, therefore I think mbox flag is useless.
 
 JC
Ok, thanks, will emerge it with those flags

-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run
 poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from
 user? Thanks

 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com


poweroff(1) says:
If  you're  not  the superuser, you will get the message `must be supe‐
   ruser'.

Either run poweroff as the superuser, or if you're running Gnome, KDE,
XFCE, etc., you may use the shutdown option available in those desktop
environments.

Others might suggest other ways of doing it.


Re: [gentoo-user] Will a 64-bit-no-multilib machine cross-compile 32-bit code?

2015-03-21 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 8:46:10 AM Mike Gilbert wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=atom -mno-cx16 -msahf -mmovbe -mno-aes -mno-pclmul -
mno-popcnt -mno-abm -mno-lwp -mno-fma -mno-fma4 -mno-xop -mno-bmi -mno-bmi2 -
mno-tbm -mno-avx -mno-avx2 -mno-sse4.2 -mno-sse4.1 -mno-lzcnt -mno-rtm -mno-
hle -mno-rdrnd -mno-f16c -mno-fsgsbase -mno-rdseed -mno-prfchw -mno-adx -mfxsr 
-mno-xsave -mno-xsaveopt --param l1-cache-size=24 --param l1-cache-line-
size=64 --param l2-cache-size=512 -mtune=atom -fstack-protector -mfpmath=sse -
fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables
 
Is that correct (assuming that's my output)?
 
 
 I should warn you against including all of those -mno-xxx flags. This
 has been known to break the build process for packages like chromium,
 which always wants to build with SSE4 support and toggles it off at
 runtime. Passing -mno-sse4.1 causes a build failure as it tries to use
 macros that are not defined.
 

Isn't it possible that removing it for all packages would cause a more subtle 
problem with another faulty ebuild (like a program crashing due to an illegal 
instruction)?

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Philip Webb
150321 German wrote:
 If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down.
 When I run poweroff from user -- command not found.
 How to shut down the system from user ?

I'ld say Don't : it's contrary to the principles of Unix,
which separate the roles of sysadmin (root) from those of ordinary users.

To shut down, I first exit Fluxbox via its menu,
then 'su' + root password, then alias 'down' = 'shutdown -h now'.
That observes the proper roles + ceremonies (smile).

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 I'ld say Don't : it's contrary to the principles of Unix,
 which separate the roles of sysadmin (root) from those of ordinary users.


There are a couple of schools of thought there.  One that differs from
what you suggested is that root isn't really a pure role - it is a uid
you can log in as (which mostly makes the actions you take as root
anonymous in a multi-admin environment).  If you're into role-based
access control then you really don't want people just switching to
root all the time - you want to define roles and their specific
requirements, and then assign those roles to users.  Sudo is a simple
tool for doing this, but stuff like consolekit/logind/policykit and so
on are about giving more granular access to users.  Likewise posix
capabilities are all about making what traditionally is root much more
granular.

But, yes, the simple answer is to just log in as root to power off the
system.  That will almost certainly work for at least the next 20
years.  Everything else is just added capabilities.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread German
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:32:25 -0400
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 150321 German wrote:
  If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down.
  When I run poweroff from user -- command not found.
  How to shut down the system from user ?
 
 I'ld say Don't : it's contrary to the principles of Unix,
 which separate the roles of sysadmin (root) from those of ordinary users.
 
 To shut down, I first exit Fluxbox via its menu,
 then 'su' + root password, then alias 'down' = 'shutdown -h now'.
 That observes the proper roles + ceremonies (smile).

Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a user by 
Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down? Strange
 
 -- 
 ,,
 SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
 ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
 TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
 
 


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 I was using genkernel, but it was whining about not supporting systemd,
 so I tried dracut for the first time.

 However, the initramfs created by genkernel has the same issue.

 I didn't do any special configuation of dracut, I read that just running
 it can usually create a initramfs without any additional configuration.
 It did detect I have mdadm of course, or my system wouldn't have booted
 at all.

That's weird.

[...]
 I was wondering more about the symlinks to the regular
 shutdown/reboot/etc commands. I never actually checked to see if they're
 already systemd-aware.

They are; basically everything nowadays is systemd aware. Even OpenRC can
now use some of its configurations.

Could you run this immediately after booting:

systemd-delta

Just to check that the unit files you are using are not being overridden by
something.

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 9:35:44 PM Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Alexander Kapshuk 
 alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down, however when I run
  poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from
  user? Thanks
 
  --
  German gentger...@gmail.com
 
 
  poweroff(1) says:
  If  you're  not  the superuser, you will get the message `must be supe‐
 ruser'.
 
  Either run poweroff as the superuser, or if you're running Gnome, KDE,
  XFCE, etc., you may use the shutdown option available in those desktop
  environments.
 
  Others might suggest other ways of doing it.
 
 
 It's actually poweroff(8). Sorry.

That's actually sysvinit poweroff...systemd's is different.
-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



[gentoo-user] systemd: incorrect behavior when doing poweroff/reboot

2015-03-21 Thread walt
I'd be 100% sure this is a systemd bug except that the problem is so
obvious and (I think) so common that I can't believe I'm the only
systemd user seeing it:

I routinely share /usr/portage over NFS between several gentoo boxes
on my wireless network.  When I poweroff or reboot the NFS client
machines, systemd tears down the wireless connection *before* it
unmounts the /usr/portage share, and so the umount command hangs and
the machine won't shut down.

I'd think people that hang out in this list must do the same thing,
surely?  No one else here running into this silly problem?




Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Jc García
 Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a user 
 by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down? 
 Strange

It's not strange,  `man 2 reboot`. It's a defined behavior.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread Julian Simioni
I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to
use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I
remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best.

The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely
Mutt, it's really quite good.

http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/

Julian

On 03/21, German wrote:
 I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the optimal 
 USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about to emerge 
 it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, 
 mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or remove 
 something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks!
 
 -- 
 German gentger...@gmail.com
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Daniel Frey
On 03/21/2015 10:27 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 So why does `systemctl reboot` not want to work? I'm a little confused.
 
 What kind of initramfs are you using?  Supposedly, the only difference
 between poweroff and reboot is that the former turns off the machine and
 reboot does a reset. In either case, systemd pivots back to the
 initramfs before umounting everything, so perhaps there lies the problem.

I was using genkernel, but it was whining about not supporting systemd,
so I tried dracut for the first time.

However, the initramfs created by genkernel has the same issue.

I didn't do any special configuation of dracut, I read that just running
it can usually create a initramfs without any additional configuration.
It did detect I have mdadm of course, or my system wouldn't have booted
at all.


 I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd:
 - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility
 symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot,
 runlevel, and shutdown

 Should I enable that USE flag?
 
 No. In Gentoo in particular the SysV compatibility is completely useless.

I was wondering more about the symlinks to the regular
shutdown/reboot/etc commands. I never actually checked to see if they're
already systemd-aware.


Dan




Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 4:58:42 PM German wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:32:25 -0400
 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
 
  150321 German wrote:
   If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down.
   When I run poweroff from user -- command not found.
   How to shut down the system from user ?
  
  I'ld say Don't : it's contrary to the principles of Unix,
  which separate the roles of sysadmin (root) from those of ordinary users.
  
  To shut down, I first exit Fluxbox via its menu,
  then 'su' + root password, then alias 'down' = 'shutdown -h now'.
  That observes the proper roles + ceremonies (smile).
 
 Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a user 
by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down? 
Strange
  

Either /sbin/poweroff or /usr/sbin/poweroff will do it from a local session (if 
there's no other users logged in locally).

Like I said, /sbin is only on the search path for root by default on gentoo.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
Ctrl-Alt-Del can be set to do what you want.

I have this in my /etc/inittab:

ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -P now

This way Ctrl-Alt-Del calls power off instead of reboot.
So to shutdown I just exit from Openbox and press Ctrl-Alt-Del.

-- Emanuele Rusconi


Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-21 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 11:52:45 PM Emanuele Rusconi wrote:
 Ctrl-Alt-Del can be set to do what you want.
 
 I have this in my /etc/inittab:
 
 ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -P now
 
 This way Ctrl-Alt-Del calls power off instead of reboot.
 So to shutdown I just exit from Openbox and press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
 
 -- Emanuele Rusconi

Also sysvinit specific.
On systemd you need to copy /usr/lib/systemd/system/ctrl-alt-del.target to 
/etc/systemd/system and edit that file.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice

2015-03-21 Thread Lee
When I have a moment I'll send my Gmail enabled muttrc for u to ponder.
Imap with Gmail on mutt is seamless ime.
On Mar 21, 2015 3:42 PM, Julian Simioni jul...@simioni.org wrote:

 I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to
 use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I
 remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best.

 The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely
 Mutt, it's really quite good.

 http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/

 Julian

 On 03/21, German wrote:
  I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the
 optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about
 to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl,
 gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or
 remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks!
 
  --
  German gentger...@gmail.com
 



[gentoo-user] Re: systemd: incorrect behavior when doing poweroff/reboot

2015-03-21 Thread Hans

On 22/03/15 08:44, walt wrote:

I'd be 100% sure this is a systemd bug except that the problem is so
obvious and (I think) so common that I can't believe I'm the only
systemd user seeing it:

I routinely share /usr/portage over NFS between several gentoo boxes
on my wireless network.  When I poweroff or reboot the NFS client
machines, systemd tears down the wireless connection *before* it
unmounts the /usr/portage share, and so the umount command hangs and
the machine won't shut down.

I'd think people that hang out in this list must do the same thing,
surely?  No one else here running into this silly problem?



Had the same and various other problem. Resolved it by giving systemd 
the boot. No more problems with after I changed to openrc.





Re: [gentoo-user] Partitions

2015-03-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 21 March 2015 21:01:14 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:14:38 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  I see I wasn't clear: I meant /dev/mdX resulting from
  combining /dev/sd[ab]X
 
 If you're creating a RAID array from partitions, you don't need to create
 further partitions. The only time I would partition an md device is if it
 were created from whole disks.

OK, so I'll just ignore those warnings from various programs about not 
recognising partition types.

Thanks to all who've helped. What a fine place this is!

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




[gentoo-user] Re: blockage

2015-03-21 Thread Jonathan Callen
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Hash: SHA512

On 2015-03-21 23:24, lee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 when trying to update with 'emerge -j 8 -a --update --deep 
 --with-bdeps=y @world' after 'emerge --sync', I'm getting the
 following message:
 
 
 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be *
 installed at the same time on the same system.
 
 (sys-process/procps-3.3.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by 
 sys-process/procps required by @system
 
 (sys-apps/util-linux-2.25.2-r2:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
 merge) pulled in by
 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r3[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]
 (=sys-apps/util-linux-2.24.1-r3[abi_x86_64
 (-)]) required by (x11-libs/libSM-1.2.2-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) 
 sys-apps/util-linux required by (app-text/xmlto-0.0.26:0/0::gentoo,
 installed) sys-apps/util-linux required by
 (app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.19.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) 
 sys-apps/util-linux[static-libs?] (sys-apps/util-linux) required by
 (sys-fs/zfs-:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 required by
 (sys-fs/udev-216:0/0::gentoo, installed) 
 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.16 required by
 (sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.42.12:0/0::gentoo, installed) 
 =sys-apps/util-linux-2.16 required by
 (dev-libs/apr-1.5.0-r2:1/1::gentoo, installed)
 sys-apps/util-linux required by @system sys-apps/util-linux
 required by (net-fs/nfs-utils-1.3.1-r5:0/0::gentoo, installed) 
 sys-apps/util-linux required by
 (app-emulation/lxc-1.0.7:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
 (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
 pulled in by
 =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r6 required by
 (sys-apps/openrc-0.13.11:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4 required by
 (sys-power/apcupsd-3.14.8-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 
 
 I don't understand this message.  What is blocked by what and why,
 and what am I supposed to do?
 
 

- From what I can see, it appears that the problem may be that you need
one of the following packages installed for sys-power/apcupsd:

  =sys-apps/util-linux-2.23[tty-helpers]
  =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r4

You probably currently have an older version of sysvinit installed,
which satisfies that dependency.  Portage wants to upgrade you to the
latest version of sysvinit, but you don't have a new-enough util-linux
installed with USE=tty-helpers, and you didn't tell portage it was
allowed to set that flag, so it doesn't know what you want to do about
the issue.

The easiest solution is probably to add sys-apps/util-linux
tty-helpers to your /etc/portage/package.use.

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Jonathan Callen
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