Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-logind problem

2015-11-24 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel


On 2015-11-24 13:17, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

I am running systemd-226-r1


There's your problem ;)

I'm really kidding.


and am having some strange problems with
systemd-logind.  It gets into some state where it can take 20 seconds to
login to the box via ssh, if I restart systemd-logind or rather stop and
start -- restart has no effect -- then it works for some unknownperiod,
but then it dies again.  Any way to fix more permanently -- I saw some
discussion a while back, but I never saw a resolution.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.



I did not know sshd used systemd-logind; have run any of these commands?:

journalctl -u systemd-logind
systemctl status systemd-logind

I am not terribly familiar with systemd, but that's the first place I 
would start. You could also try changing the LogLevel parameter in 
'/etc/systemd/system.conf'.


Alec



Re: [gentoo-user] emerging squid indefinitely

2015-11-24 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon  writes:

> On 23/11/2015 23:04, lee wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon  writes:
>> 
>>> On 23/11/2015 17:02, lee wrote:

 Hi,

 emerging squid doesn't seem to ever finish:


 [...]
>>> Emerging (9 of 9) net-proxy/squid-3.5.6::gentoo
>>> Jobs: 8 of 9 complete, 1 runningLoad avg: 0.37, 0.61, 
>>> 0.53


 What would I look at, without interrupting emerge, to find out what's
 going on?

>>>
>>>
>>> tail the build log
>> 
>> Which is where?  There isn't anything in
>> /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log, and /var/log/emerge.log only says:
>> 
>> 
>> 1448288177:  ::: completed emerge (8 of 9) net-libs/gnutls-3.3.17.1 to /
>> 1448288177:  >>> emerge (9 of 9) net-proxy/squid-3.5.6 to /
>> 1448288177:  === (9 of 9) Cleaning 
>> (net-proxy/squid-3.5.6::/usr/portage/net-proxy/squid/squid-3.5.6.ebuild)
>> 1448288177:  === (9 of 9) Compiling/Merging 
>> (net-proxy/squid-3.5.6::/usr/portage/net-proxy/squid/squid-3.5.6.ebuild)
>> 
>> 
>> It's still pretending that it's compiling, hours later ...
>> 
>
>
> the build logs are the same place they have always been, in
> /var/tmp/portage/.
>
> that location is a symlink to:
>
> /var/log/portage/:-:.log
>
> and that info is dumped to the console in volume every time emerge fails
> for any reason.
>
> /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log and /var/log/emerge.log are emerge's
> logs and contains logs of what emerge is doing. You want build logs to
> find out what make and gcc etc are doing.

Cool, let's see what it does (It's still emerging.):


,
| dawn ~ # cat /var/tmp/portage/net-proxy/squid-3.5.6/temp/build.log


|  * Package:net-proxy/squid-3.5.6
|  * Repository: gentoo
|  * Maintainer: e...@gentoo.org
|  * USE:abi_x86_64 amd64 caps elibc_glibc htcp ipv6 kernel_linux pam 
ssl userland_GNU wccp wccpv2
|  * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox userpriv usersandbox
|  * Adding group 'squid' to your system ...
|  *  - Groupid: next available
`


,
| dawn ~ # ps xa | grep gro
| 10563 pts/0T  0:00 groupadd -r squid
| 11315 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep --colour=auto gro
| dawn ~ # 
`


It shouldn't take /that/ long to add a group, not even for a system
group.


,
| dawn ~ # grep squid /etc/group
| squid:x:245:
| dawn ~ # 
`


So the group has already been created.  Let's create a test group:


,
| dawn ~ # time groupadd -r test
| groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later.
| 
| real0m15.003s
| user0m0.000s
| sys 0m0.000s
| dawn ~ # grep test /etc/group
| dawn ~ # ls -la /etc/group*
| -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 552 Nov 23 15:16 /etc/group
| -rw--- 1 root root 539 Nov  8 19:23 /etc/group-
| -rw--- 1 root root   6 Nov 23 15:16 /etc/group.lock
| dawn ~ # 
`


Well, ok, the file is still locked.

'group-' looks like a backup, and 'group.lock' contains 10563, which is
the pid of groupadd.  I'd think that's ok.

So what all does it take to create a system group?  I suppose I could
kill groupadd and the emerging might go on, though I wonder what the
problem might be and if something else besides making an entry to
/etc/group needs to be done.  What might require an indefinite delay
here?

Any ideas?



Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-logind problem

2015-11-24 Thread covici
Alec Ten Harmsel  wrote:

> 
> On 2015-11-24 13:17, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > I am running systemd-226-r1
> 
> There's your problem ;)
> 
> I'm really kidding.
> 
> > and am having some strange problems with
> > systemd-logind.  It gets into some state where it can take 20 seconds to
> > login to the box via ssh, if I restart systemd-logind or rather stop and
> > start -- restart has no effect -- then it works for some unknownperiod,
> > but then it dies again.  Any way to fix more permanently -- I saw some
> > discussion a while back, but I never saw a resolution.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> >
> 
> I did not know sshd used systemd-logind; have run any of these commands?:
> 
> journalctl -u systemd-logind
> systemctl status systemd-logind
> 
> I am not terribly familiar with systemd, but that's the first place I
> would start. You could also try changing the LogLevel parameter in
> '/etc/systemd/system.conf'.


I did run systemctl status systemd-logind and it was starting over and
over again and it did not work, so I stopped and restarrted manually and
its now working for a while.

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How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



[gentoo-user] What do you use for appliances with old SSL?

2015-11-24 Thread Adam Carter
It seems like modern browsers don't have the option to support old crypto,
eg on firefox setting security.version.tls.min to 0 still blocks SSLv3.
What do you use to access old equipment?


Re: [gentoo-user] What do you use for appliances with old SSL?

2015-11-24 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 25 November 2015 00:33:57 CET, Adam Carter  wrote:
>It seems like modern browsers don't have the option to support old
>crypto,
>eg on firefox setting security.version.tls.min to 0 still blocks SSLv3.
>What do you use to access old equipment?

A virtual machine with an old browser which is only used to access these 
devices.

--
Joost
-- 
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[gentoo-user] systemd-logind problem

2015-11-24 Thread covici
I am running systemd-226-r1 and am having some strange problems with
systemd-logind.  It gets into some state where it can take 20 seconds to
login to the box via ssh, if I restart systemd-logind or rather stop and
start -- restart has no effect -- then it works for some unknownperiod,
but then it dies again.  Any way to fix more permanently -- I saw some
discussion a while back, but I never saw a resolution.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:31:33PM +0100, luciano mannucci wrote
> On 2015-11-24 00:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:41:00 +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:
> >> Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
> >> back with a success story soon... :-)
> > 
> > Start the SSH server in the live install environment, then you can SSH 
> > in
> > from a system with a decent display. I almost always install Gentoo 
> > using
> > SSH and screen.
> 
> Indeed, I agree, ssh is probably The solution.
> 
> Tough I have to configure the ethernet interface first, and add at least
> one user (or edit the sshd configuration file :)... I don't like the 
> idea
> of doing that blindly... :)

  No need for an extra user that early in the install.  You can login as
root.  You have to be root to do the setup stuff anyways.  If you really
want a "predictable interface name", remember to type...

gentoo net.ifnames=0

...immediately when the Gentoo CD or USB key boots up.  I predict that
it'll come up as eth0 if you do that. 

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] Re: emerging squid indefinitely

2015-11-24 Thread walt
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 23:39:01 +0100
lee  wrote:

>
> ...

 
> Well, ok, the file is still locked.
> 
> 'group-' looks like a backup, and 'group.lock' contains 10563, which
> is the pid of groupadd.  I'd think that's ok.
> 
> So what all does it take to create a system group?  I suppose I could
> kill groupadd and the emerging might go on, though I wonder what the
> problem might be and if something else besides making an entry to
> /etc/group needs to be done.  What might require an indefinite delay
> here?

Any unusual network activity?  (DNS lookups that shouldn't be
happening, etc.) 




Re: [gentoo-user] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping

2015-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:26:04 +, Mick wrote:

> > By using the search tool. without it, all the options would show up
> > all the time, even those you don't want and can't enable. Hiding all
> > irrelevant options makes kernel configuration almost sane to manage.  
> 
> It is also worth mentioning xconfig and gconfig for a GUI-fied front
> end, which also offer search options.

That's why I said make *config in my first post to this thread ;-)


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Chrony-2.2 failing

2015-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 21 November 2015 09:59:18 I wrote:

> I think I'll follow Alan's suggestion and head upstream.

After some discussion with Miroslav Lichvar I've found a chrony.conf that 
works for me on my 32-bit 2-core Atom. This is it:

pool pool.ntp.org iburst
server ntp0.zen.co.uk iburst
server ntp1.zen.co.uk iburst
driftfile /var/lib/chrony/drift
makestep 1.0 3
allow 192.168.1/24
mailonchange prh@serv.prhnet 0.5
rtcfile /var/lib/chrony/rtc
rtconutc

The installation-default file causes the start-stop-daemon to catch an 
unexpected interrupt and report an error, even though the chronyd process 
continues to run.

Any time I run 'strace -ff -o/tmp/chronyd.strace /etc/init.d/chronyd start' 
the init process runs normally and I'm left with scores of trace files, none 
of which help because the stray interrupt wasn't detected.

So I'm left with a setup that works for me but leaves what looks (to me) 
like a timing problem unsolved.

I'll report back if I hear any more.

-- 
Rgds
Peter




Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread luciano mannucci

On 2015-11-24 00:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:41:00 +0100, luciano mannucci wrote:

Ok, I'll fight with the low intensity virtual video and I hope I'll be
back with a success story soon... :-)


Start the SSH server in the live install environment, then you can SSH 
in
from a system with a decent display. I almost always install Gentoo 
using

SSH and screen.


Indeed, I agree, ssh is probably The solution.

Tough I have to configure the ethernet interface first, and add at least
one user (or edit the sshd configuration file :)... I don't like the 
idea

of doing that blindly... :)

Cheers,

Luciano.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PPC64 on IBM Power8

2015-11-24 Thread luciano mannucci

On 2015-11-24 04:14, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:

Hey dude, what you'll gonna do with this machine. Just curiosity.

Well, I'm a service provider, I need a good OS for infrastructure
virtual machines, I think gentoo is not necessarily a bad choice... ;-)

Cheers,

Luciano.
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