Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Bertram Scharpf]

On Saturday, 10. Dec 2016, 23:17:55 +0100, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
> Nils Freydank  wrote:
> 
> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful 
> > this 
> > would become.
> 
> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 
> 
> The question is, give printer (Scanner, FAX and Printer Combination) which 
> work
> under native x86_64 or all will not work? I try tomorrow with HP from my dad, 
> when will work I think I buy new device. After 7 Years this will be ok.  

It hurts me to hear that you wasted so much precious time.

Let me propose you to do:

  - Download some Debian, Ububunt, Mint, Grml or whatever
USB stick in case you missed that until now,

  - Boot it, install a standard driver, print out
"exampke/niklolaus.ps" from my project
 and
validate it,

  - Print it out another time but redirect /dev/ulpt0 or
whats name is is ever to a file,

  - send this file to me.

I'll try to write a filter, and I'm deeply interested in
finding out whether my PJL project will manage that.

Bertram


-- 
Bertram Scharpf
Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany
http://www.bertram-scharpf.de

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:17:55PM +0100, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
> Nils Freydank  wrote:
> 
> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful 
> > this 
> > would become.
> 
> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 

I believe going from nomultilib to multilib is not officially supported.

I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
of the box without extra drivers.

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_lis...@web.de]

On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
Nils Freydank  wrote:

> would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful 
> this 
> would become.

I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 

The question is, give printer (Scanner, FAX and Printer Combination) which work
under native x86_64 or all will not work? I try tomorrow with HP from my dad, 
when will work I think I buy new device. After 7 Years this will be ok.  

I read little in Web and what I understand is that HP Devices work easy and 
without any problems. Is it true? I prefer Brother, but what not want that 
not want. 


Silvio


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Trying to find which driver I can use with a ATI v9800 fireball

[wabe]

Grant Edwards  wrote:

> On 2016-12-10, Volker Armin Hemmann 
> wrote:
> 
> > step 1: google: radeon gentoo wiki
> > step 2: read
> > step 3: follow instructions  
> 
> You forgot:
> 
> step 4: give up and buy an nvidia card.
> 
> ;)
> 
> I've always had consistently bad luck with radeon under Linux.  The
> last time I tried, the open-source driver kept locking-up or crashing
> and the proprietary driver stopped supporting my card before it was 2
> years old.
> 
> Maybe things have improved in the past couple years...

Since at least 8 years (maybe over 10 years, can't remember exactly) 
I use ATI/Radeon Cards with open source driver and never had major 
problems with that. Never had a big interest in 3D performance. For
me it was always sufficient when my screensaver (glslideshow) works.

About two years ago I bought a Radeon R7 250. At the beginning I had 
some problems when I activated compositing, but after an driver update
some weeks later it works flawless. After the latest driver update a
few weeks ago, 2D performance increased a lot and is really perfect
now, even with UHD resolution.

--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

[Walter Dnes]

On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 10:42:51PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote
> 
> I'm old fashioned.  I use text based apps as much as possible.
> I'm using mutt and vim to compose this e-mail, for example.  They're
> running under screen, which is running in an rxvt-unicode terminal
> under dwm.  I could detach my screen session, exit rxvt-unicode and
> bounce dwm without having to exit vim or mutt.  I also have music
> playing via moc in another screen session.  Thanks to screen I could
> bounce my window manager without missing a beat.  :-)

  Years ago, I used to run mutt and newsreaders in separate text tty's.
Then the developers "in their infinite wisdom" switched from VGA text
mode drivers to framebuffer drivers. (mumble grumble mutter mutter)
It's basically impossible to come up with an 80-column text screen.
You'd need 24-pixel-wide text fonts to get 80 columns on a
1920-pixel-wide monitor.  I'd settle for 12-pixel-wide text fonts, and
doing a split-screen.

  Back then, my answer to "screen" was to push the system to 9 text
tty's.  tty10 and tty11 were reserved for X, and tty12 for system
messages.  Here's a fragment from my /etc/inittab

c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
c7:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty7 linux
c8:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty8 linux
c9:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty9 linux

  Mutt (mail in general) is one thing I have no problem with stopping
and starting.  However, newsgroups have been replaced by webboards
(bleagh).  I have over 20 profiles for my browser.  This allows me to
bring up a specific forum in a specific workspace.  I also have multiple
spreadsheets continuously open for daily updates, as a hobby.  Browsers
and spreadsheets don't restore.  Browsers are supposed to restore after
being killed, but they don't always restore to the exact same point in
the forum.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

[gentoo-user] Re: Trying to find which driver I can use with a ATI v9800 fireball

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-12-10, Volker Armin Hemmann  wrote:

> step 1: google: radeon gentoo wiki
> step 2: read
> step 3: follow instructions

You forgot:

step 4: give up and buy an nvidia card.

;)

I've always had consistently bad luck with radeon under Linux.  The
last time I tried, the open-source driver kept locking-up or crashing
and the proprietary driver stopped supporting my card before it was 2
years old.

Maybe things have improved in the past couple years...

--
Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-12-10, Kevin Monceaux  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 07:41:51PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>  
>> I think he meant that from a "desktop productivity" standpoint, the
>> two are the same: you have to close every single program you are using
>> and then start over.
>
> I'm old fashioned.  I use text based apps as much as possible.  I'm using
> mutt and vim to compose this e-mail, for example.

It's slrn and emacs for me.

> They're running under screen, which is running in an rxvt-unicode
> terminal under dwm.  I could detach my screen session, exit
> rxvt-unicode and bounce dwm without having to exit vim or mutt.  I
> also have music playing via moc in another screen session.  Thanks
> to screen I could bounce my window manager without missing a beat.
> :-)

Yep, there are long-running things that I run in screen so that I can
restart X, or continue using them from a different location or
whatever.  But, that's pretty far removed from what most people (even
Linux users) do with a "desktop".

--
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 4.8.11 nvidia trouble

[Fernando Rodriguez]

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:00:58PM +0100, massi ppp wrote:
> hello
> 
> i' m try to install nvidia-drivers latest on gentoo 4.8.11 gcc compiler 5.4.
> 
> i've compiled kernell with genkernell, the driver has compiled, but not
> work because kernel conflict, i recompiled the same kernel following the
> istruction on handbook, but when i try to emerge nvidia driver portage fail
> to compile.

Then post the error that you're getting and the output  of the
pre-emerge checks.

If you build your kernel with genkernel it *should* work. You probably
just had to blacklist the free drivers to resolve the "kernel conflict".
So maybe start over with a fresh genkernel and try that.

> 
> i try also to find the problem to add or remove graphics and firmware
> correlated features by menuconfig, and recompliling kernel.
> 
> the result is:
> the module nvidia.ko missing some value:
> 
> lib/modules/4.8.11-gentoo/video.ko needs unknown symbol:

That's expected if you didn't recompile the drivers. It means that one of
the features you disabled was used by the driver module. Also make sure
you remove the /lib/modules/4.8.11-gentoo directory before reinstalling
your kernel modules as it looks like video.ko is not supposed to be
there. Maybe you disabled that feature but the modules is still there
from your previous build.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

[gentoo-user] Re: go to a no-x console from failed X + lxde install

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick  writes:

> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:17:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> > Instead of setting USE=-gtk in your `/etc/portage/make.conf` try
>> > setting `sys-auth/consolekit-1.1.0-r1 -gtk` in
>> > `/etc/portage/package.use/polkit`  
>> 
>> I guessed you meant to say polkit  so:
>> root # cat /etc/portage/package.use/polkit
>>   sys-auth/polkit-0.113-r -gtk
>> 
>> And boy did those changes you've been posting really make a difference
>
> Stop messing arund with package.use, trying to turn the flag off one
> package at a time. Either use the default/linux/x86/13.0 profile, which
> has a bare minimum set of USE flags set, or set -gtk in make.conf.
>
> The developer profiles are for Gentoo developers and set options for
> those creating ebuilds, you don't need that, use the base profile only.

Made that change soon as Andre and Dale spoke up.

Thanks for the tips and commentary about profiles... good to know.

Maybe you missed this from back up the thread:

Harry wrote:
> Also, I thought it might help to stick a use flag of `-gtk' in
> make.conf. But when I did that just now as an experiment instead of
> the output below I got a huge list of x11- pkgs to be installed.
> Now changed back I get the output below.

But that was before setting the profile to:
[...]/default/linux/x86/13.0
as suggested by several posters now.

Now under the new profile what you suggest... removing the polkit -gtk
from /etc/portage/package.use and putting `-gtk' in make.conf had a
good effect on emerge -vuNDp world.

Thanks for bringing it backup... made difference under the proper
profile.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to find which driver I can use with a ATI v9800 fireball

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 04.12.2016 um 05:13 schrieb Vizo Allman:
> So I have this model
>  
> http://products.amd.com/en-us/search/Professional-Graphics/AMD-FirePro%E2%84%A2-3D-Workstation-Graphics/ATI-FirePro%E2%84%A2-V9800/24
>
> And this is the last binary driver that would work with my card
>  
> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/workstation/previous/detail?os=Linux+x86_64=15.201.2401#
>
> for the life of me I cant figure how to get that installed . Any one
> know what to do? Please tell me what information I should provide to
> get the answr I need.
>
> Thanks
>
> -vizo-
>
>
> -- 
> "Nor aught availed him now
> To have build in Heaven high towersNor did he scape
> By all his engines
> But was headlong sent with his industrious crew
> To build in Hell
> "Milton, "Paradise Lost"

step 1: google: radeon gentoo wiki
step 2: read
step 3: follow instructions

Re: [gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Mick]

On Saturday 10 Dec 2016 08:25:09 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:10:33 +, Mick wrote:
> > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
> >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> > 
> > # required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
> > # required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
> > # required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
> > # required by @selected
> > # required by @world (argument)
> > 
> > >=media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome
> > 
> > I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively
> > gnome-free PC I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can
> > avoid gconf?
> 
> The dependency in in plasma-pa
> 
>   media-sound/pulseaudio[gnome]
> 
> Why a KDE component would depend on GNOME is another question entirely,
> it's like emacs depending on vi!

Well, re-using code makes sense and if pa saves KDE devs time all is good.  
The problem is when said code drags in a whole new environment monoculture.  
Err... systemd anyone?  ;-)
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Mick]

On Saturday 10 Dec 2016 00:22:19 Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 12/10/2016 12:10 AM, Mick wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I have set up USE="-gnome" in my make.conf, but I saw this cropping up at
> > my latest emerge --update:
> > 
> > [ebuild   R] media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0::gentoo  USE="X alsa
> > alsa-plugin asyncns bluetooth caps dbus gdbm glib gnome* ipv6 orc qt4 ssl
> > tcpd udev webrtc-aec -doc -equalizer -gtk -jack (-libressl)
> > -libsamplerate -lirc - native-headset (-neon) -ofono-headset (-oss)
> > -realtime (-selinux) -sox (- system-wide) -systemd {-test} -xen
> > -zeroconf" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB [snip...]
> > 
> > Total: 127 packages (83 upgrades, 3 new, 41 reinstalls), Size of
> > downloads:
> > 268,203 KiB
> > 
> > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
> >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> > 
> > # required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
> > # required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
> > # required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
> > # required by @selected
> > # required by @world (argument)
> > 
> >> =media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome
> > 
> > which is dragging in gconf:
> > 
> > [ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r4:2::gentoo  USE="introspection
> > ldap (policykit) -debug" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
> > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
> > 
> > 
> > I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively
> > gnome-free PC I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can avoid
> > gconf?
> > 
> > PS:  euse -i gnome shows:
> > 
> > [- c] gnome
> > 
> > media-sound/pulseaudio: Use GConf to store user preferences on
> > streams and so on. Don't enable this flag if you want to use a system
> > wide instance. If unsure, enable this flag.
> > 
> > [-  ] 7.1 [gentoo]
> > [-  ] 8.0 [gentoo]
> > [-  ] 9.0 [gentoo]
> 
> When portage suggests a USE change due to a blocker, the "culprits" are
> listed from "smallest" to "largest". So in this case,
> kde-plasma/plasma-pa is the culprit: a quick `less $(equery w
> plasma-pa)` shows that plasma-pa is depending on gconf and
> pulseaudio[gnome].
> 
> If upstream has decided to depend on gconf, it makes perfect sense to
> depend on PA with the 'gnome' USE flag. This is probably so plasma can
> correctly run as a user and keep track of file/sound settings.
> 
> The KDE team can likely explain *why* this change happened, though you
> might want to check the homepage for plasma-pa first. The KDE team can
> be reached via the mail alias (kde@g.o) or on Freenode via #gentoo-kde.
> 
> I hope this helps clear things up for you.
> 
> ~zlg

Yes, thank you Daniel and Marc.  The bug explains why the devs chose adding 
gconf.  I don't think this is necessary on a PC with a single audio sink and 
could have been left out, but then you could argue pulseaudio itself is 
optional.
-- 
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 08:10:33 +, Mick wrote:

> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
> # required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
> # required by @selected
> # required by @world (argument)
> >=media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome  

> I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively
> gnome-free PC I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can
> avoid gconf?

The dependency in in plasma-pa

media-sound/pulseaudio[gnome]

Why a KDE component would depend on GNOME is another question entirely,
it's like emacs depending on vi!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Daniel Campbell]

On 12/10/2016 12:10 AM, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have set up USE="-gnome" in my make.conf, but I saw this cropping up at my 
> latest emerge --update:
> 
> [ebuild   R] media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0::gentoo  USE="X alsa alsa-plugin 
> asyncns bluetooth caps dbus gdbm glib gnome* ipv6 orc qt4 ssl tcpd udev 
> webrtc-aec -doc -equalizer -gtk -jack (-libressl) -libsamplerate -lirc -
> native-headset (-neon) -ofono-headset (-oss) -realtime (-selinux) -sox (-
> system-wide) -systemd {-test} -xen -zeroconf" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
> [snip...]
> 
> Total: 127 packages (83 upgrades, 3 new, 41 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
> 268,203 KiB
> 
> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
> # required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
> # required by @selected
> # required by @world (argument)
>> =media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome
> 
> which is dragging in gconf:
> 
> [ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r4:2::gentoo  USE="introspection ldap 
> (policykit) -debug" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
> 
> 
> I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively gnome-free 
> PC 
> I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can avoid gconf?
> 
> PS:  euse -i gnome shows:
> 
> [- c] gnome
> media-sound/pulseaudio: Use GConf to store user preferences on 
> streams and so on. Don't enable this flag if you want to use a system 
> wide instance. If unsure, enable this flag.
> [-  ] 7.1 [gentoo]
> [-  ] 8.0 [gentoo]
> [-  ] 9.0 [gentoo]
> 

When portage suggests a USE change due to a blocker, the "culprits" are
listed from "smallest" to "largest". So in this case,
kde-plasma/plasma-pa is the culprit: a quick `less $(equery w
plasma-pa)` shows that plasma-pa is depending on gconf and
pulseaudio[gnome].

If upstream has decided to depend on gconf, it makes perfect sense to
depend on PA with the 'gnome' USE flag. This is probably so plasma can
correctly run as a user and keep track of file/sound settings.

The KDE team can likely explain *why* this change happened, though you
might want to check the homepage for plasma-pa first. The KDE team can
be reached via the mail alias (kde@g.o) or on Freenode via #gentoo-kde.

I hope this helps clear things up for you.

~zlg
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Re: [gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Marc Joliet]

On Saturday 10 December 2016 08:10:33 Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have set up USE="-gnome" in my make.conf, but I saw this cropping up at my
> latest emerge --update:
> 
> [ebuild   R] media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0::gentoo  USE="X alsa alsa-plugin
> asyncns bluetooth caps dbus gdbm glib gnome* ipv6 orc qt4 ssl tcpd udev
> webrtc-aec -doc -equalizer -gtk -jack (-libressl) -libsamplerate -lirc -
> native-headset (-neon) -ofono-headset (-oss) -realtime (-selinux) -sox (-
> system-wide) -systemd {-test} -xen -zeroconf" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0
> KiB [snip...]
> 
> Total: 127 packages (83 upgrades, 3 new, 41 reinstalls), Size of downloads:
> 268,203 KiB
> 
> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
> # required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
> # required by @selected
> # required by @world (argument)
> 
> >=media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome
> 
> which is dragging in gconf:
> 
> [ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r4:2::gentoo  USE="introspection
> ldap (policykit) -debug" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)"
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB
> 
> 
> I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively gnome-free
> PC I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can avoid gconf?
[...]

I, too, was annoyed about this, but see the following, in particular the bug 
referenced in both commits (using the gitweb interface is a good way of 
figuring out changes like this, I think):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=0ffbd5cf3af3ea2fc4c568080c254b04b3e1334c
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=5ba50d0df9b3431ff4c9178d6d7f86db56cb648f
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596426

HTH
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: go to a no-x console from failed X + lxde install

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:17:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

> > Instead of setting USE=-gtk in your `/etc/portage/make.conf` try
> > setting `sys-auth/consolekit-1.1.0-r1 -gtk` in
> > `/etc/portage/package.use/polkit`  
> 
> I guessed you meant to say polkit  so:
> root # cat /etc/portage/package.use/polkit
>   sys-auth/polkit-0.113-r -gtk
> 
> And boy did those changes you've been posting really make a difference

Stop messing arund with package.use, trying to turn the flag off one
package at a time. Either use the default/linux/x86/13.0 profile, which
has a bare minimum set of USE flags set, or set -gtk in make.conf.

The developer profiles are for Gentoo developers and set options for
those creating ebuilds, you don't need that, use the base profile only.

There used to be a server profile but it was dropped in favour of using
the base profile and adding the relevant flags for the type of server you
are using. "Server" is to vague a description for a single profile.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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[gentoo-user] Pulseaudio now needs USE="gnome"?

[Mick]

Hi All,

I have set up USE="-gnome" in my make.conf, but I saw this cropping up at my 
latest emerge --update:

[ebuild   R] media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0::gentoo  USE="X alsa alsa-plugin 
asyncns bluetooth caps dbus gdbm glib gnome* ipv6 orc qt4 ssl tcpd udev 
webrtc-aec -doc -equalizer -gtk -jack (-libressl) -libsamplerate -lirc -
native-headset (-neon) -ofono-headset (-oss) -realtime (-selinux) -sox (-
system-wide) -systemd {-test} -xen -zeroconf" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[snip...]

Total: 127 packages (83 upgrades, 3 new, 41 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 
268,203 KiB

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by kde-plasma/plasma-pa-5.8.3::gentoo
# required by kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.8.3::gentoo[pulseaudio]
# required by kde-apps/kdebase-meta-16.04.3::gentoo
# required by @selected
# required by @world (argument)
>=media-sound/pulseaudio-9.0 gnome

which is dragging in gconf:

[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r4:2::gentoo  USE="introspection ldap 
(policykit) -debug" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 KiB


I don't see gnome in REQUIRED_USE and since this is a relatively gnome-free PC 
I was wondering what's causing the above and if I can avoid gconf?

PS:  euse -i gnome shows:

[- c] gnome
media-sound/pulseaudio: Use GConf to store user preferences on 
streams and so on. Don't enable this flag if you want to use a system 
wide instance. If unsure, enable this flag.
[-  ] 7.1 [gentoo]
[-  ] 8.0 [gentoo]
[-  ] 9.0 [gentoo]

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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