[gentoo-user] Re: X fails with old permissions errors

2018-10-04 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:28 PM Adam Carter  wrote:

> Since around 4 days ago X wont run, and my web searches show i'm hitting
> the same sorts of issues that arose when X moved away from running as root.
>

FYI, this was fixed by rebuilding pam. I needed to reboot after the
rebuild, as 'needrestart' wasn't enough.


Re: [gentoo-user] external storage

2018-10-04 Thread thelma
I've ordered SanDisk 1TB Extreme Portable SSD.
Would format it with ext4 but if I do it, it will not work with cell
phone.  So for now I think I'll stick with exFat (default it comes
with).  It might be OK for picture backup but my exFat will stripped
extended attributes from my Linux files.

Thelma
On 10/03/2018 11:58 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:24:52 AM CEST John Covici wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2018 01:13:34 -0400,
>>
>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:30:12 AM CEST Davyd McColl wrote:
 Most newer external storage devices come formatted with ntfs these days,
 so
 if you just want to plug-and-play, I suggest installing ntfs-3g. File
 managers like dolphin and desktop environments like KDE will notice the
 device and allow you to mount and use them.

 Be aware, though, that ntfs-3g, whilst being an excellent bit of
 software
 (imo), is not the fastest way to access those disks. If you have no need
 to
 move the disk to another computer or if you only plan on moving between
 Linux computers, I suggest formatting with a native filesystem like
 ext4.
 Personally, I use ntfs-3g for my 4 large external disks so that I can
 access them when I infrequently dual-boot to windows of on the
 off-chance
 that I would like to lend the drive to someone. I accept the performance
 penalty.

 -d

 On October 3, 2018 05:45:58 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> Are all external storage, media/disk work with Linux?
> Any recommendations, or which one to stay away from.
>
> Some of them are encrypted, so I suppose they will not work with Linux
> out of the box.
>
> --
> Thelma
>>>
>>> I would assume other desktop environments will also seamlessly work with
>>> ntfs-3g as that is handled by udisks.
>>>
>>> Personally, I have not noticed lesser performance with ntfs-3g with both
>>> reading and writing.
>>>
>>> I also have not had any issues with encrypted disks.
>>
>> I have had problems that once a disk is mounted with ntfs3g, and then
>> trying to use it on a Windows system, I had to do a chkdsk /f before
>> it would work properly.  This was a while ago, so maybe things are
>> fixed by now, but I thought it was worth bringing it to your
>> attention.
> 
> I only encounter this when people decide to unplug the disk without ejecting 
> it. The eject forces a clearance of the write-cache.
> This is why I always get annoyed with people who simply pull out the disk/
> stick right after the copy is "finished".
> 
> --
> Joost
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: [gentoo-user] help

2018-10-04 Thread Dale
gevisz wrote:
> чт, 4 окт. 2018 г. в 16:18, Jorge Ventura :
>>
> Hm, could you, please, describe your problem in a bit more details?
>
>

I wondered if they were trying to get list help,
gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org, when I first saw it.  If so, maybe
that email address will help them, if they still need it. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] help

2018-10-04 Thread gevisz
чт, 4 окт. 2018 г. в 16:18, Jorge Ventura :
>
>
Hm, could you, please, describe your problem in a bit more details?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Skypeforlinux does not start

2018-10-04 Thread gevisz
чт, 4 окт. 2018 г. в 16:16, Holger Hoffstätte :
>
> On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:09:51 +0300, gevisz wrote:
>
> > I have just installed skypeforlinux-8.30.0.50.
> >
> > After starting from command line, it successfully does nothing.
> > I even do not get "permission denied" message.
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/666396
>
> For some reasons 8.30.x relies on elogind. Just emerge it
> and it should work; it did for me.

It has worked for me. Thank you.



[gentoo-user] help

2018-10-04 Thread Jorge Ventura



[gentoo-user] Re: Skypeforlinux does not start

2018-10-04 Thread Holger Hoffstätte
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:09:51 +0300, gevisz wrote:

> I have just installed skypeforlinux-8.30.0.50.
> 
> After starting from command line, it successfully does nothing.
> I even do not get "permission denied" message.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/666396

For some reasons 8.30.x relies on elogind. Just emerge it
and it should work; it did for me.

-h




[gentoo-user] Skypeforlinux does not start

2018-10-04 Thread gevisz
I have just installed skypeforlinux-8.30.0.50.

After starting from command line, it successfully does nothing.
I even do not get "permission denied" message.

# whereis skypeforlinux
skypeforlinux: /usr/bin/skypeforlinux

# ls -al /usr/bin/skypeforlinux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Oct 4 /usr/bin/skypeforlinux ->
/../../opt/bin/skypeforlinux

/opt/bin/skypeforlinux is a shell script calling
/opt/skypeforlinux/skypeforlinux

$ /opt/skypeforlinux/skypeforlinux
Server response: 

[gentoo-user] [Even further OT] Re : kernel delay

2018-10-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 25 September 2018 08:34:18 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:

> Unfortunately, Americans (and those others who have learned English from
> Americans) don't understand the pluperfect. They've thrown out four entire
> verb tenses just in my lifetime.

May I ask an American to say whether Reported Speech is taught in English 
classes at school?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.






[gentoo-user] X fails with old permissions errors

2018-10-04 Thread Adam Carter
Since around 4 days ago X wont run, and my web searches show i'm hitting
the same sorts of issues that arose when X moved away from running as root.

In strace, i see;
$ grep Permi startx11.out
319   setpriority(PRIO_PROCESS, 320, -1) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
320   openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/tty0", O_WRONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission
denied)
320   openat(AT_FDCWD, "/proc/mtrr", O_WRONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES
(Permission denied)

$ ls -l /dev/tty0 /proc/mtrr
crw--w 1 root tty  4, 0 Oct  4 18:14 /dev/tty0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Oct  4 18:14 /proc/mtrr

$ grep libexec startx11.out
320   faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap", X_OK) = 0
320   execve("/usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap", ["/usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap",
"-nolisten", "tcp", ":0", "-auth", "/home/adam/.serverauth.303"],
0x55b02e0cdc20 /* 38 vars */) = 0

$ ls -l /usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap
-rws--x--x 1 root root 14392 Oct  2 19:19 /usr/libexec/Xorg.wrap

Also from Xorg.0.log
[   176.550] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 320 does not
belong to any known session

I cant work out why there's an issue given the suid root on Xorg.wrap, so I
rebuilt systemd and the X stuff, but no change.

Any ideas?