[gentoo-user] pppoe not working
Can someone suggest an openrc style network stanza for an iiNet NBN pppoe connection? It has username/password/vlan2 parameters but I can't even get a ppp0 node to appear with the online suggestions. Bill K -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[gentoo-user] imagemagick display image edit tool draws an opaque background
In all of the imagemagick display installations I have, when I use the image edit draw function, it includes an opaque background, rather than just the lines themselves. I've never had this with display(1) before, and can find nothing in the internet about it. That suggests to me that it's - again - a use-flag issue. Is there some use flag I have to use to have a colored line with a transparent background?
Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 06:00:11PM +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > (I've never seen an smtp:/ or imap:/ url, but I guess they could easily > be formulated.) They are sometimes used, usually in addition to a port specifier, in order to express a protocol univocally. For example, here's part of my Mutt configuration file (the first line forces STARTTLS, hence the omission of `s` in `smtp://`): set ssl_force_tls = yes set smtp_url = "smtp://a...@mail.suugaku.co.uk:587" set folder = "imaps://mail.suugaku.co.uk:993/" -- Ashley Dixon suugaku.co.uk 2A9A 4117 DA96 D18A 8A7B B0D2 A30E BF25 F290 A8AA signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: OT - looking for someone to fix PHP code - paid job
On 2020-08-29, Skippy wrote: > At least I'm 99% sure that's what is going on. Since I don't know PHP I > can hardly be certain about it. The beauty of PHP is that even if you _do_ know PHP you can hardly be certain about it. After decades of people trying (and failing) to invent languages that would produce professional results for a newbie, we now have PHP: ith which even professionals get amateur results. Even though I've been programming in PHP off and on for ten years, I'm still never sure what's going to happen... -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?
On 8/29/20 7:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 6:47 PM james wrote: On 8/29/20 4:49 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: Perhaps a read only mechanism could publish all of that financial data? Perhaps timely data entry, should be a requirement? As part of the cleanup Robin has published a fair bit of this stuff on the Foundation wiki (on the Gentoo wiki). I'd encourage those interested to browse. The stuff that is private (account nos, payees, etc) is in an infra-hosted private git repo. That is actually a big improvement because a lot of the problems came from it being in a box at somebody's home for a number of years, which made it hard to tell what was going on, and without going into details we'll just say that reports were not always accurate. Can/will you summarize the collective reason to get rid of the Foundation or any other component of Gentoo management? If they are not being paid, why the rush to terminate? So, mgorny outlined a lot of that on the blog. The concern is that we've finally gotten to a clean state, and now we ought to figure out where we're going while we're STILL in a clean state. Otherwise our bus factor is pretty low before things start slipping again, and if we get out of compliance then changing things will be harder. Are there resources for access to those discussions, meeting minutes notes and such? Audio recording of meetings or some sort of summary? Just about everything is on the Foundation wiki pages, or the -nfp list (which is archived). I recommend browsing the recent history if you're interested - it is a very low-traffic list. Discussions on the fate of the Foundation can be a bit noisy, but you can just skip any really long threads if you're looking for more housekeeping stuff. The Trustee meeting minutes on the wiki is where much of the meat is, though the community discussion leading up to decisions tends to be on the lists. Redundancy, is a key component of most all of computer science. Trust, but verify, is another fundamental tenant. If your want formal references, its under the blanket term of 'Fault Tolerance'. I write this for the benefit of all readers. This is what I'm really getting at. And really this is what I mean by cloud. I don't mean moving everything from a non-replicated infra to a non-replicated single cloud provider. I mean trying to move to more distributed technologies so that we can be replicated on many providers, which could be cloud or individually hosted or whatever. Unfortunately while this is very straightforward for git it isn't so straightforward for a lot of other stuff, in particular bugzilla. I trimmed down the reply quite a bit because much of what you asked about is largely already discussed or I don't have much to add. There are pros and cons to all the options and I don't think anybody questions that. This is part of why we're in analysis paralysis. So, my take-aways are: 1. Find the links and read up on what has occurred, to date. 2. Follow up on convencing the leadership (?) to use GNUcash, with real time postings and read privileges. 3. Trying to figure out 'why' Gentoo leaders are balking at converting to a '501(c)' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)_organization 4. Clearly expressing that it is OK for folks and corps to use Gentoo's code_base to make money. Although, there are no current 'payola' requirements when making money using gentoo, that can easily be change by those in control. Were Gentoo to convert to a '501(c)' corp, we the users and purveyors of Gentoo would have legal rights to use Gentoo to make money. Since Gentoo is a privately help corporations, it is trivial to reverse any standards of business practice, fees and such, at the sole discretion of those in control. So, based on decades of experience, I'd strongly suggest converting to a 501(c) corp. 5. It is very, very wrong for Gentoo to stay organized as a "for profit" corporation. Because, that means the contributions to Gentoo, become the property of the for profit corp. Although it is not a current exploit, it is not illegal (but maybe immoral) to massively change direction. Profiteering from the good works and contributions of the many, to the glutinous benefit of the few, is a constant, recurring theme among corporations. Precedence has already been set. Smarty-Pants took Gentoo and for CoreOS, which was then sold to Redhat. Redhat was subsequently purchased by IBM. Millions and Millions of dollars change hand. The same thing can easily happen to Gentoo, when an installation disc is created. It's an economic windfall, just waiting to happen. It's a deception, in the eyes of the court system. And yes, there are huge ramifications for such actions. But, as previously pointed out, finding enforcement is a challenge. The IRS constantly 'wheels and deals' behind the scenes, if you have the right attorney. Gentoo, if it had a robust installation CD, would be worth about
Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, August 28, 2020 11:27 PM, antlists wrote: > On 26/08/2020 21:21, Grant Taylor wrote: > > > > so basically total expected number of protocols/layers used in the > > > universe, per second, will be much less if we, on planet earth, use a > > > mail system that uses HTTP* instead of RESXCH_*. > > > > I obviously disagree. > > Exactly. You now need a protocol/layer that says you're running "mail > over http" as opposed to "web". HTTP is tcp/80 that means web. As soon > as you start using it for something (anything) else you've just added > another protocol/layer. you know there is this almost neat concept called url? rumours say that urls can identify various web applications, ranging from websites, rss, games, video, and, guess what? mails. all over http/https/h2 over same tcp 80/443. hard to believe, but this magic is known since early 1990s. are you saying [1] won't work unless we have a new tcp port for it? [1] https://github.com/al-caveman/hillarymail (work in progress, incomplete) i don't want to repeat. re-read this sub-tread, and search for "resource exchange layer". you really don't know what's http*. also not going to respond to you in this sub-thread any more (ignore list is growing...). side note: i seriously suspect that we got GPT-4 bots in the list.
Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?
On 30/08/20 14:06, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > you know there is this almost neat concept called > url? > > rumours say that urls can identify various web > applications, ranging from websites, rss, games, > video, and, guess what? mails. all over > http/https/h2 over same tcp 80/443. hard to > believe, but this magic is known since early > 1990s. Have you looked at urls lately? http:/example.org/blah/blah https:/example.org/foo/bar git:/github.com/my/wonderful/project smb:/mypc/username/documents The first bit of the url is the protocol - guess what - it explicitly chooses between http / hhtps / git / whatever. It runs above tcp/udp, not tcp80/443. (I've never seen an smtp:/ or imap:/ url, but I guess they could easily be formulated.) Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?
On 29/08/20 20:47, William Hubbs wrote: >> > Sound to me like you are an excellent candidate to join the Gentoo >> > Council? If so, contact Mgorny for pointers. > The functions being discussed in this thread belong to the > trustees (the board of directors for the foundation) [1]. Thhey are > definitely not part of the council's skill set [2]. > > mgorny and others are advocating disbanding the Gentoo foundation > and transfering all of Gentoo's assets to an organization such as the Software > Freedom Conservancy [3] and allowing the council to exist as it currently > does. > > As a member of the council, I'll be the first to say I don't know > anything about trustee functions. For me, the question is, do we want to > control our own destiny as an organization or do we want to have another > organization control it in some way? To be honest, I do not have that > answer because I don't know how much control an umbrella organization > would try to exert, and since they would control our purse strings, I > don't know what the scope of control they would be able to exert is. Sounds to me, actually from many of the other posts in this list, that too many people don't understand the difference between a person, their role, and a post. (To give my favourite example, capitalism - at least the American form - tends to emphasise "profit for the shareholders". But many shareholders are either employees or pension fund members, who are severely damaged by this "search for profit". Actions taken to "protect the shareholder" often *damage* the owner of the shares!) Speaking from an English view of things here ... The over-arching legal authority here is presumably the Gentoo Constitution. This gives power to the trustees, but also limits their power. The trustees have no power to alter the constitution - that's down to the people who created it - us the wider gentoo community I suppose ... The trustees then *delegate* the daily management to the foundation, who *manage* the assets on behalf of the trustees and the constitution. The foundation is enTRUSTed with the assets of the constitution, to manage it in accord with the constitution. Any breach of that is a breach of TRUST, which is pretty serious legally. Should we as the constitution/trustees take our assets away from the foundation and give them to the SFC to manage, that now puts the SFC in place of the foundation, with the SAME trust and legal issues. They *must* keep our assets separate from everyone else's (including their own) and *must* return said assets should they cease operating. So, legally, whether it's the foundation, or the SFC, there shouldn't be any noticeable change. But it should result in a lot of cost saving, as the SFC's accountants will have more experience and be more efficient, and by sharing we reduce costs. The SFC could buy a mainframe (to which we chip in) to centralise hardware. Etc etc. But legally, WE OPT IN. They can't take our money and do it without asking. The big fly in the ointment I see here is the US's casual attitude to enforcing all this (and I've heard some horror stories from Canada too :-( I'm also involved in something exactly similar in the UK, and a lot of people are worried ... So from a legal point of view what's the problem? From an enforcement point of view if things go wrong, well yes I know there's a problem! Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - looking for someone to fix PHP code - paid job
On Saturday, 29 August 2020 19:56:39 BST Skippy wrote: > Greetings. > > I am dealing with a WordPress site that has PHP code written into the > theme which needs some fixing. > > At least I'm 99% sure that's what is going on. Since I don't know PHP I > can hardly be certain about it. > > I'm looking for someone who can look this over, determine what's going > on, and fix it. > > I can pay you via PayPal. You tell me what it will cost. > > If available and up to the task you can reply to me directly. I'll send > you all the information I have so you can look it over, see if the > problem is something you can fix, and send me an estimate for your time. > > I figure I'll either get zero response to this, or 20 responses. *ha* > > Thanks much! > Skippy I can't help with PHP coding and don't know what the owner/user requirements may be for this website, but sorting out some ad-hoc code which arguably may not even need to be there, will only prolong pain and add to dev costs at a future point in time. I will instead make a general recommendation for you to consider. Replace the theme with one which is not abandon-ware and is as close to the existing as the website owners will accept. Back up the fs and the database just in case, disable all plugins, download the new theme, disable old - enable new theme, enable all plugins and see what you get in terms of layout and functionality. Then try to sell the new theme as a more modern, post-Covid look to the client. LOL! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can root verify user is secure?
On Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:01:18 BST Grant wrote: > The strange behavior was a critically slow internet connection first > thing in the morning that wasn't fixed by a reboot or modem power > cycle. My net0 monitor didn't show any traffic but I still wonder if > the upstream pipe could have been clogged with data. My problem > seemed to be the downstream but I think a full upstream pipe can slow > the downstream? No ISP reports online and it cleared up after a short > while. I haven't seen that before. Would you be concerned? This can be entirely an ISP congestion problem at their central concentrators. If you have ADSL, or a non-symmetric connection, a saturated upstream pipe at your router will reduce what the downstream can achieve. Google for 'bufferbloat' if you want to adjust your upstream rate on your router to maximise downstream performance. If your local PC/switch/router do not indicate traffic flowing through when there should be, then the problem is clearly upstream. It doesn't hurt to be a bit paranoid and keep an eye out, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Taking some measurements and recording traffic will help to bottom it out. Intelligent switches and more expensive routers have a capability of cloning ports for the purpose of monitoring traffic over them, running a packet capture, etc. Firewall logs would also help indicate what connections were happening at the time and you should be able to forward these on your LAN to a syslog server to store and review later. > Is there a separate device I can put on the network to monitor traffic > so I can review it later on? If you want to guard against changes to your OS, check: app-admin/tripwire Otherwise, router logs should be helpful in the first instance. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?
What do other similar software projects do ? -- distros like Debian, Arch ; others like KDE Gnome DocFound'n (LO). It wb potentially disastrous if the Gentoo trustees handed control to another organisation for which the Gentoo distro was a dispensable part. Even if we can trust their personnel today, that may change in future. If the previous accounting mess has been resolved & the Foundation currently has plenty of cash, surely it's best to leave well alone for the present. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet
