Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:04:53 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the > > bank. And they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I > > heard, any transaction over $600 gets automatically reported to them, > > and they keep talking about lowering that threshold. > > Thank goodness I don't live in the good ol' US of A. The land of the > free? Hm... We still have the protections introduced by the EU. Let's hope the government aren't about to tear them up... oh, they are. -- Neil Bothwick All things in moderation, ESPECIALLY moderation. pgpxxv9M0LwOE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:07:38 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Now, that said, the other ISP in the area also has a backdoor, and > > they try to connect to it any time they're running diagnostics, and > > if the connection fails then they reset the circuit. So your choice > > is use one of their sanctioned models and leave the backdoor alone or > > else have sporadic dropouts. > > Life isn't like that in the UK - at least, I hope not. I'm not aware of > any such behaviour by my ISP. In the UK we get a choice of ISPs, so they have to behave, or at least be more subtle about their misbehaving. -- Neil Bothwick Make like a tree and leave. pgpW0FroYQ7Q8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:25:08 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > I would strongly recommend getting your own equipment with most ISPs since > the rental price on their equipment will buy a new modem yearly. > > Now, that said, the other ISP in the area also has a backdoor, and they try > to connect to it any time they're running diagnostics, and if the > connection fails then they reset the circuit. So your choice is use one of > their sanctioned models and leave the backdoor alone or else have sporadic > dropouts. Life isn't like that in the UK - at least, I hope not. I'm not aware of any such behaviour by my ISP. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:34:40 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > They have no reason to bother. At least not in the USA. US courts ruled > decades ago that as soon as you give information to a third party you lose > all expectation of privacy (yes, even if the third party promised privacy > in the contract you have with them.) > Phone voice data and U.S. Mail are specifically protected legally, as are > privileged communications with a lawyer, priest, or doctor (although that > last category is so riddled with exceptions as to barely count). > Otherwise, anybody you do any business with at all can be forced to give up > any and all records they have about you, no warrant required, and can be > ordered not to tell you it's been done. > So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the bank. And > they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I heard, any > transaction over $600 gets automatically reported to them, and they keep > talking about lowering that threshold. Thank goodness I don't live in the good ol' US of A. The land of the free? Hm... -- Regards, Peter.
RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
>-Original Message- >From: Michael >Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 1:32 AM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > >On Saturday, 6 August 2022 07:07:26 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >> > All connections to banks are encrypted end-to-end for decades now >> > and the encryption has becoming stronger over the years. >> >> That is likely true. I still remember Snowden tho. We don't know >> what backdoors are in use even for bank encryption. > >It's safer to assume state actors have full access to bank information. The >hope is bad guys don't get access too! ;-) > They have no reason to bother. At least not in the USA. US courts ruled decades ago that as soon as you give information to a third party you lose all expectation of privacy (yes, even if the third party promised privacy in the contract you have with them.) Phone voice data and U.S. Mail are specifically protected legally, as are privileged communications with a lawyer, priest, or doctor (although that last category is so riddled with exceptions as to barely count). Otherwise, anybody you do any business with at all can be forced to give up any and all records they have about you, no warrant required, and can be ordered not to tell you it's been done. So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the bank. And they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I heard, any transaction over $600 gets automatically reported to them, and they keep talking about lowering that threshold. LMP
RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Humphrey > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 4:36 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > > On Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:05:20 BST Wol wrote: > > On 05/08/2022 15:53, Laurence Perkins wrote: > > > Oh, and note that if your ISP works the same way as mine, they have > > > a backdoor into whatever equipment they happen to have provided. So > > > definitely put it in bridge mode or whatever and use your own gear > > > if you don't want them spying on the doings of your internal > > > network. One of the local ISPs here even calls it a "feature" and > > > will ping the mobile app they require you to install to use their > > > service every time they detect "suspicious" traffic on your internal > > > net... > > What do they do if you don't know how to use a mobile? (Yes that IS a > > serious question - I provide tech support to family like that :-) > > ...or if you use your own equipment? > > -- > Regards, > Peter. > I would strongly recommend getting your own equipment with most ISPs since the rental price on their equipment will buy a new modem yearly. Now, that said, the other ISP in the area also has a backdoor, and they try to connect to it any time they're running diagnostics, and if the connection fails then they reset the circuit. So your choice is use one of their sanctioned models and leave the backdoor alone or else have sporadic dropouts. LMP
RE: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info
>-Original Message- >From: Wol >Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 4:05 PM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info > >On 05/08/2022 15:53, Laurence Perkins wrote: >> Oh, and note that if your ISP works the same way as mine, they have a >> backdoor into whatever equipment they happen to have provided. So >> definitely put it in bridge mode or whatever and use your own gear if you >> don't want them spying on the doings of your internal network. One of the >> local ISPs here even calls it a "feature" and will ping the mobile app they >> require you to install to use their service every time they detect >> "suspicious" traffic on your internal net... > >What do they do if you don't know how to use a mobile? (Yes that IS a serious >question - I provide tech support to family like that :-) > > Their tech will set it up for you when he comes out to hook up the cables. No, it's not been audited for security, so it could be doing anything at all to your phone. LMP
