Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?
That post is 2 years old. IMHO something that's not been stabalized in that long of a period of time is worth waiting for unless you full on ~arch already. That said, I use Calculate linux which is mostly stable but has OpenRC by default and I don't have any issues. On 10/22/10 12:02, James wrote: Hello, Well here it seems that openrc is going ~arch http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-688090.html So has it been decided that openrc is the way forward? Any caveats with openrc we should be aware of? James -- Kind Regards, Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/24/10 08:11, a...@sourcegarden.de wrote: On 09/22/2010 12:23 AM, Beau Henderson wrote: On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P You really think that wood change the unstable problem? -- *Sourcegarden GmbH* *HR:* B-104357 *Steuernummer:* 37/167/21214*USt-ID* DE814784953 *Geschäftsführer:* Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto *Bank:* Deutsche Bank, *BLZ:* 10070024, *KTO:* 0810929 *Adresse:* Schönhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin Stability, probably not. Performance, probably so. I haven't had any stability issues aside from the NSPR troubles. -- Kind Regards, Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/22/10 07:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 20 September 2010 16:38:05 Paul Hartman wrote: I haven't had any crashing or failing to start, but Firefox in Linux has always been pretty bad in general for me. Slow UI, unusable in NX (constant screen redraws; Thunderbird does the same thing), network stalling for MINUTES at a time, slow to load, etc. Other browsers on the same machine don't suffer any of these problems. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser because it is so flaky. That's odd, because on this newish i5 box, which is suffering really severe responsiveness problems otherwise, FF responds to my commands smartly. Firefox for windows is compiled with PGO via ICC which apparently improves performance quite a bit. I believe there are issues when firefox is compiled with GCC via PGO and in any case, there is no support for PGO building of Firefox @ gentoo afaik. I wish I had the time and knowledge to whip up an ebuild that could do the magic to test it out tho. Any takers ? :P -- Kind Regards, Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/19/10 20:02, András Csányi wrote: On 19 September 2010 10:09, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:28 on Sunday 19 September 2010, András Csányi did opine thusly: On 19 September 2010 00:14, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me? Or does Firefox get slower every release? And less stable. I got myself up to the latest, and I cannot install my 4 add-ons (xmarks, AdBlockPlus, Noscript, Stumble-upon) without it crashing. Seg fault sometimes. I've got ECC memory, and no reported problems, and it does not help to clear the profiles (rename ~/.mozilla) and re-emerge. Grr. Use Chrome/Chromium. At my gentoo the fox won't even start. I don't know why, I won't to know why... I'm tired about Firefox. :S If you run Firefox from a terminal, do you get an error about xpcom? If so, you need revdep-rebuild and possibly re-merge nss. It's all in the build elogs. Hi Alan, I have tried to start from terminal, but no message. I have tried to run after revdep-rebuild but nothing. I have installed binary version but the result was the same. After these I have tried strace and if I remenber correctly it stopped with segmentation fault. Unfortunately I can't reproduce this problem because few days ago I changed my system from 32 bit to 64 bit. Here everything is working fine according firefox. I know I should have report it but, that time, I was really tired emotionally. :( I had this same problem and decided I had bad RAM. Before I could order any, I rebuild my system and it happens that I did so with an image that had GCC 4.3* rather than 4.4. Funny enough, firefox worked just fine. I did some searching and apparently nspr has issues with a certain function enabled in -O2 @ gcc 4.4. From the following: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487844 Apparently if you rebuild nspr @ gcc 4.4 with -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing I haven't confirmed this, as I haven't had time to jump back to 4.4 but if someone can confirm this fixes the issue, I'd certainly be greatful!
Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.
On 09/21/10 12:41, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com mailto:b...@thehenderson.com wrote: I had this same problem and decided I had bad RAM. Before I could order any, I rebuild my system and it happens that I did so with an image that had GCC 4.3* rather than 4.4. Funny enough, firefox worked just fine. I did some searching and apparently nspr has issues with a certain function enabled in -O2 @ gcc 4.4. From the following: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487844 Apparently if you rebuild nspr @ gcc 4.4 with -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing I haven't confirmed this, as I haven't had time to jump back to 4.4 but if someone can confirm this fixes the issue, I'd certainly be greatful! I'm still at 4.3.4, and having these problems. I wouldn't be holding my breath for a silver bullet. I'm writing this on chormium, having just given up on Opera for being slow as FF. Sigh. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Are you compiling nspr with -O3 by any chance ? The flag that is responsible was apparently moved from -O3 in gcc 4.3* to -O2 in 4.4*. Are you getting the seg fault when you strace firefox ? -- Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 07/01/10 00:30, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Beau Hendersonb...@thehenderson.com wrote: On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: 2010/6/29 Hasan SAHINhasan.sa...@gmx.com: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: gcc -Q --help=target -march=native (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip) Perhaps I'm missing something but running the above gives me the impression that -march=native actually only configures the bare minimal install. I'm not seeing -mmmx or -msse3 enabled on my k8-sse3 for instance ( amongst much else ). What -march setting is it showing in that output? The MMX (etc) may be enabled implicitly instead of explicitly. It's also possible that the CPU detection is failing to identify your CPU. In that case you could probably file a bug report about it. The correct -march is being displayed, I just can't make sense of the options showing as [disabled]. While the option may be implied by the -march settings, it just makes sense to me that the option should show as enabled. Indeed, with my core2 machine the majority of the options do display as enable as expected, just not with my k8-see3 @native. I wonder if perhaps it might be possible to compile an application that uses all these functions and then assess ( somehow ) the binaries afterwards to see if they were compiled in and working correctly ? Here's what I'm seeing on my k8-sse3: http://pastebin.com/PfMiTnx5 And my core2: http://pastebin.com/7WerGwkX
Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native
On 06/30/10 08:07, Paul Hartman wrote: 2010/6/29 Hasan SAHINhasan.sa...@gmx.com: Hello all, I am using Athlon64 X2 processor with the CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer option. Can I use the -march=native option instead of that? You can see which options -march=native would use by running this command: gcc -Q --help=target -march=native (thanks to Daniel Iliev for the tip) Perhaps I'm missing something but running the above gives me the impression that -march=native actually only configures the bare minimal install. I'm not seeing -mmmx or -msse3 enabled on my k8-sse3 for instance ( amongst much else ).
Re: [gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed
I usually keep the last version of GCC around until I've managed to rebuild the entire world with the newer one, just in case. If you've run the tasks mentioned after the newer version was installed, it should probably be safe. On 06/10/10 10:34, Daniel D Jones wrote: eix gcc shows: Installed versions: 4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp -altivec - bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened -libffi -multilib - multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) 4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp - altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite -hardened -libffi - multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) Is there any reason to have both of these installed? Is it safe to unmerge 4.3.4?
[gentoo-user] gnome-mplayer auto-mutes on next track
G'day, Ever since a someone recent update to gnome-mplayer, whenever I load a new file after a viewing or listing to audio the next track auto-mutes. That is, gnome-mplayer seems to set my system audio to mute. I can't seem to figure out why this happens or what is causing it. Anyone have any idea how I can work around this ? -- Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] how to get edid info. for monitors in gentoo amd64
Neil Walker wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: my system is gentoo amd64. i want to get the edid info. for my monitor. the read-edid package would do this, but it only works in 32bit env. What makes you think that? The read-edid package is amd64 keyworded and works fine here. get-edid is not installed on non-x86 platforms, only parse-edid. Be lucky, Neil http://www.buffingup.com I had this same problem with the stable version of the package but not unstable. -- Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] New laptop is slow.
G'day, Grant wrote: I just finished installing Gentoo on a Dell Vostro 1320 laptop. It has a 2.2Ghz Core Duo CPU, 3GB RAM, and a 7200RPM hard drive. Navigating within firefox is pretty slow. It's the response time of the application, not the network. It's much slower than my previous laptop which has much weaker specs. I noticed the HD light comes on when the system is pausing in firefox sometimes. I don't have any swap at all, I'm using the CFQ, and /tmp is mounted on tmpfs. Can anyone suggest where to look? - Grant Slightly related, but you might want to check and make sure your HD isn't grinding itself to a quick death as is always the case when I'm setting up a laptop: http://en.opensuse.org/Disk_Power_Management -- Beau Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany and firefox want incompatible versions of xulrunner
Keith Dart wrote:
=== On Thu, 08/20, Allan Gottlieb wrote: ===
=net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.0* required by ('installed', '/',
'www-client/epiphany-2.24.3-r10', 'nomerge')
===
The latest version of epiphany is 2.26.3. try unmerging your epiphany
first.
-- Keith Dart
Not if your @stable.
I'm probably going to wait it out but I may re-compile epiphany using webkit if the slot conflict
pursues.
[gentoo-user] gcc and -match=native
G'day, I was playing around with a few non-essential packages the other day using -march=native -v on my core2 duo ( configured with CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu ) and noticed that GCC set the -march=core2 rather than what is typically suggested on the 3rd party wiki ( which is to use prescott ). According to the GCC docs, the core2 option includes instructions for x86_64 but would this be ultimately ignored seeing as the CHOST is set to i686 or would these instructions bloat the resulting binaries or could they result in conflicts of some sort down the line ? on my Athlon64 it uses ( the 3rd party wiki recommended ) k8-sse3 but I did notice that the option -mtune=k8 ( no -sse3 ) is set. I'm a little confused as to how the native option selects the best fit. I know that -march=native is not supported. I'm just rather interested in figuring out why these options are selected and if I'm better off with them in place. Note, that there have been no issues *noticed* with final results. -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and -match=native
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:20:34 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: I was playing around with a few non-essential packages the other day using -march=native -v on my core2 duo ( configured with CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu ) and noticed that GCC set the -march=core2 rather than what is typically suggested on the 3rd party wiki ( which is to use prescott ). According to the GCC docs, the core2 option includes instructions for x86_64 but would this be ultimately ignored seeing as the CHOST is set to i686 or would these instructions bloat the resulting binaries or could they result in conflicts of some sort down the line ? AFAIK they should be harmlessly ignored - if produced machine code will contain them, it'll just break as soon as cpu gets down to them. Besides, they are useless for program which works with 32-bit registers and data, so there should be no point to insert them anywhere in x86 binary. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net So is GCC ignoring the fact that the systems CHOST is i686 or is this truly optimized for my situation ? -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] How to freeze my Gentoo system
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sean s...@ttys0.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 13:40 -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: Don't know the proper term, but I want to stop version updates for a while, yet allow package-rN updates... I don't think there's a real good way to accomplish this, but the approach I would take is to setup a local portage tree that the system syncs from. You could then cherry pick the ebuild updates that go into that local, and now customized, portage tree. -Sean I'm not sure if this is any use to you, but what I tend to do with my workstation and laptop which I use daily for work is, I have the following bash aliases in place ( because I'm lazy ). I tend not to run a a full deep update via emerge during the work week but do look out for reported security vulnerabilities via the glsa-check application. I can then update only the affected package or packages as needed and the system remains otherwise in-tact and stable. alias secchk='glsa-check -p affected' alias secup='glsa-check -f affected' -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: podge at podgeweb.com writes: I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). Ah, I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2). I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of the other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always 1.0 or higher. I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of load too. Here's some good reading on load average http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/ Hey, I'm fairly comfortable with the definition of load average, that's not something I need clarification on, but thanks to all whom have offered. I'll fire up htop today and see if its able to identify anything that top or ps hasn't as yet. I'm relatively certain the issue isn't related to X or gnome as the load shoots up immediately after boot up and the load issue happens even without firing up startx. -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: podge at podgeweb.com writes: I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). Ah, I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2). I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of the other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always 1.0 or higher. I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of load too. Here's some good reading on load average http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/ Hey, I'm fairly comfortable with the definition of load average, that's not something I need clarification on, but thanks to all whom have offered. I'll fire up htop today and see if its able to identify anything that top or ps hasn't as yet. I'm relatively certain the issue isn't related to X or gnome as the load shoots up immediately after boot up and the load issue happens even without firing up startx. I wonder if the laptop could be going into some low-speed, low-power mode, causing it to seem slow and thus making the load seem artificially high? (assuming you're using CPU frequency scaling at all) I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same story. The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life and and more heat. htop doesn't seem to show anything either. Just for shits n giggles I fired up powertop and implemented its suggestions. No luck with that either unfortunately. This has me completely baffled. -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote: I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same story. The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life and and more heat. Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is defined as the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1, 5, 15 minutes So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard (but usually does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very suspicious) This is almost certainly one of two things: 1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-) 2. Some app is blocking hard on IO I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so immediately goes back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens many times a second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is constantly busy. Thus, no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not appear at all sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Woah, now were getting somewhere. After reading that, I had another look at the top output and noticed that a single hald process was in D state. /etc/init.d/hald stop and the load is lowering as I type. I'm going to have to dig into this deeper as time permits. Thanks everyone :) -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote: I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same story. The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life and and more heat. Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is defined as the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1, 5, 15 minutes So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard (but usually does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very suspicious) This is almost certainly one of two things: 1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-) 2. Some app is blocking hard on IO I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so immediately goes back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens many times a second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is constantly busy. Thus, no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not appear at all sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Woah, now were getting somewhere. After reading that, I had another look at the top output and noticed that a single hald process was in D state. /etc/init.d/hald stop and the load is lowering as I type. I'm going to have to dig into this deeper as time permits. Thanks everyone :) -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good The culprit: Hals cdrom polling. Interestingly, the load shot down as soon as I stuck a disk. The fix: hal-disable-polling --device /dev/scd0 'hal' -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
[gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Is updatedb or some similar indexer running? Being a new install it might still be building its index for the first time. I've noticed before that processes in io-wait seem to count towards the load average, even though they might not be actually using the CPU that much. Shawn Nope, nothing. Top shows all 0's under CPU. Nothing appears to be doing anything at all. As an example: top - 09:25:20 up 1:31, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.92 Tasks: 65 total, 1 running, 64 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4145288k total, 328960k used, 3816328k free,21112k buffers Swap: 8377856k total,0k used, 8377856k free, 256796k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5273 root 20 0 2428 1108 876 R0 0.0 0:03.71 top 1 root 20 0 1744 504 444 S0 0.0 0:00.28 init 2 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 5 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 6 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/1 7 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 8 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 9 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
Fearing I might have stripped out something I shouldn't have in my .config , loaded up a defconfig and selected my appropriate options. This has the same effect. I've also tryed the ~ kernel to no avail. This has got me stumped. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Is updatedb or some similar indexer running? Being a new install it might still be building its index for the first time. I've noticed before that processes in io-wait seem to count towards the load average, even though they might not be actually using the CPU that much. Shawn Nope, nothing. Top shows all 0's under CPU. Nothing appears to be doing anything at all. As an example: top - 09:25:20 up 1:31, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.92 Tasks: 65 total, 1 running, 64 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4145288k total, 328960k used, 3816328k free,21112k buffers Swap: 8377856k total,0k used, 8377856k free, 256796k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5273 root 20 0 2428 1108 876 R0 0.0 0:03.71 top 1 root 20 0 1744 504 444 S0 0.0 0:00.28 init 2 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 5 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 6 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/1 7 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 8 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 9 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:29 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: [snip] Anything suspicious under `ps aux` ? Absolutely nothing ( out of ordinary ) :/ -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash Busted
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Beau Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of late ( past couple of weeks ), I've been having trouble with flash. Nothing seems to work. Youtube, google video, lastfm doesn't have the little What version of flash are you using? Here net-www/netscape-flash-10.0.12.36-r1 (in Opera and SeaMonkey) black-outs everything. Didn't yet do so, but I'd suggest downgrading to 9.0.151.0. I'm currently on Gnash, but it is still well alpha. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mailhttp://garbl.home.comcast.net/%7Egarbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail Thanks folks. I've tried everything suggested in both responses other than starting with a fresh profile which I've now done with success. It would still be nice to know what was specifically causing it but I'm a happy camper none the less. Thanks again. -- Beau Dylan Henderson
[gentoo-user] Flash Busted
G'day, Sorry in advance if I'm posting this to the wrong list. As of late ( past couple of weeks ), I've been having trouble with flash. Nothing seems to work. Youtube, google video, lastfm doesn't have the little player and worst of all I'm missing out on shiny advertisements that go DING. All I get is a gray box. I've made no major changes to my system, just the regular update. I've tried removing and re-installing netscape flash to no avail. I'm using the latest Firefox 3 binary available in portage ( r.0.4 ) and I'm on x86. Would anyone happen to have any ideas on what I might need to check or how I might enable further debugging to get to the bottom of this ? -- Beau Dylan Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] FLAC to mp3 converters?
Audacity does an excellent job ( and lets you select many different encoding qualities ) On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/4 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has a good way to convert a large hierarcy of directories populated with FLAC files to a new set of directories using mp3 instead? The FLAC directory contains something like 2 files so I need the converted structure to replicate the original. Most likely the tool has to be very tolerant of file naming, unicode, etc., as there are likely to be any number of strange things in there. Possibly something in perl or, for the likes of me, even something GUI based. GUI-based: media-sound/soundkonverter Try also media-sound/soundconverter for a gnome version -- Beau Dylan Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] updatedb/locate - reasons to use
G'day On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Are there (emerge/revdep-rebuild/other portage tools related) situations when fs db creating is useful? Andrew I believe there are. I used to use slocate when I had tens of thousands of mp3s and other media files. Its a lot of times its faster to use slocate or locate than a find to find a certain file. I believe the OP's intentions are to determine if slocate would have any benefit specifically for portage related utilities. And with that, there would not be any benefit to the average user IMHO, as slocate is updated usually nightly ( when installed ) and as such if the utilities were using the results obtained from that utility, it might apply changes which would be detrimental to the system, assuming changes have been made to portage or installed apps since the updatedb run. -- Beau Did It! Henderson
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Hello, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I haven't had a single issue with it myself. Is it possible you may have an addon or other config option causing issues ? Have you tried loading a new profile ? -- Beau Henderson
