Re: [gentoo-user] managing 802.11a/b/g
James wrote: Also, does any gui manage/control the dhcp handshaking that occurs at various location, which is the same gui that monitors/manages the wireless connect and firewall(iptables)? possibility would be a wireless (static) ip at site where access occurs frequently in lieu of dhcp. Is that a gui that one can use to manages all of the various common configuration choices, or is it a roll_your_own type of management for 802.11 type devices. If you can use NetworkManager you'll find it rocks. I use it on Fedora and I'm no longer jealous of Mac and Windows users and their ability to use a random AP on a moment's notice. http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: managing 802.11a/b/g
james wrote: Cliff Wells cliff at develix.com writes: If you can use NetworkManager you'll find it rocks. I use it on Fedora and I'm no longer jealous of Mac and Windows users and their ability to use a random AP on a moment's notice. http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ Hello Cliff, They are all hard masked. Did you install an overlay from somewhere, or just download and compile it? I only run gentoo on servers, so I've never had to try to install it there. My laptop runs fedora so it comes shipped by default. I'm not certain why it would be hard masked in Gentoo... maybe it's not 100% compatible with the Gentoo init stuff. I've used it without incident on both FC5 and FC6 and the Ubuntu crowd has apparently been using it for some time as well. Hopefully you can get it working because frankly there's not even a close second on Linux for doing what it does. Sorry I can't help more. Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pants
Korthrun wrote: Does anyone have any clue what put: PANTS=ON into my environment? I'd be more concerned if it was ZIPPER=DOWN Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
James wrote: qfpvajdy qfpvajdy at trashmail.net writes: Does somebody know a model of a laptop on which all works fine with Linux? Before I purchased my HP pavilion (amd64) I took a liveCD to the store and just booted it up and got everything working, right in the store. If you cannot find all of the device drivers, take a usb flash and copy the results of lscpi, lshw, etc onto the flash device. Copy any other files/data information about the hardware, so you can research the linux compatibility options, remotely. Several trips might be necessary to get everything working That sounds like a good suggestion. I've got a Toshiba Tecra that I love. I'd recommend against ATI video (Nvidia and Intel seem to work much more reliably [read: at all] with the new XGL stuff, if you care about that). Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 18:32 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Cliff Wells wrote: I'd be curious who this is well-know to. The only XFS filesystem I've ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM. There *have* been a couple of issues that I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking. I'm too lazy to search all over the net for xfs power outage or power loss, here's a couple of examples: http://lwn.net/Articles/181355/ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=4#doc_chap4 Sorry, not convinced. The first is some second-hand quote of Ted T'so who just *happens* to have a bone to pick with other filesystems. All the gentoo article states is some info from the XFS docs about XFS' aggressive caching and potential *data* loss (not FS corruption). While it's not well-known that XFS sucks in a power outage, it is well-known that it writes journal before data. This is a design choice that helps ensure that while you may lose data in a power outage, you won't lose your filesystem. I know no one here seriously thinks that they won't lose data in a power outage no matter what FS they use so I'm still unsure how that makes XFS suck. Bottom line is after 5 years of almost nothing but XFS on many, many computers (most of them not on UPS), I've had nothing but good fortune with XFS. OTOH, I've got a corrupted EXT3 system sitting here I'm trying to repair for a customer after someone turned it off, and my one attempt with JFS (when I got my first 64-bit PC) led to almost immediate disaster. Bottom line is that if you lose power you risk losing data. My experience has been that not only does XFS not fair worse than the other filesystems, it appears to fair better. Regards, Cliff -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
As a more useful bit of info than anecdotes and scaremongering, here's a decent article that covers XFS in fair detail and compares a few of its major differences from the other journaled filesystems: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs9.html The section on Journaling is especially enlightening as it both shows why people fear data loss on XFS and also why it tends not to happen so much in real-life usage. Regards, Cliff -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 17:33 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Dale wrote: Howdy, I did a install of Mandriva recently and found out this bit of info. If you have frequent power failures and no UPS, do NOT use XFS. It was a nightmare to get back up because of things not getting started again and I just reinstalled Mandriva with reiserfs. It worked very well with Reiserfs but XFS was not something I want to try on that machine again for sure. Yes, it's well known that XFS sucks with unexpected power loss, Reiser and JFS less so. ext3 remains the most reliable filesystem. I'd be curious who this is well-know to. The only XFS filesystem I've ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM. There *have* been a couple of issues that I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking. Regards, Cliff -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethics of vmware use
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 11:52 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: I have not used it though I plan on getting the OS X version once my Mac Mini arrives... I have doubts about the performance of a VM on that hardware. I've got a mini and it's not fast (at least running Linux). Usable for general-purpose stuff but it feels pretty sluggish if I ask it to do anything heavy. I don't know any benchmarks, but if I had to give you a feel describing it, I'd put it on par with a 1GHz PIII with a slow drive and not *quite* enough memory. In short, it's great for doing testing on or just day-to-day stuff, but I think running a VM may be out of its league. If you can, replace the disk with a 5400RPM drive which will help a lot. Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 23:11 -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 22:43 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote: Hello all, Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a zombie machine two times. Here are the symptoms: It does sound like hardware. I'd check three things first: 1) Are all the fans in the system working? 2) Check for swollen or leaking capacitors (see http://www.trendit.co.za/capacitor.htm). This is *really* common, so don't discount it until you've checked. An added note on this: you can actually repair boards like this (you can replace any capacitor with a capacitor of equal or greater capacity), but I've found that it's not worth it. It can take a couple hours and is pretty hit or miss (I once replaced half the caps on a dead board which got it working, then replaced the other half and it never worked again :P). Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Locking Up
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 22:43 -0500, Shawn Singh wrote: Hello all, Over the course of the past 2 weeks I've come home to a zombie machine two times. Here are the symptoms: It does sound like hardware. I'd check three things first: 1) Are all the fans in the system working? 2) Check for swollen or leaking capacitors (see http://www.trendit.co.za/capacitor.htm). This is *really* common, so don't discount it until you've checked. 3) Run memtest86 overnight. If none of these seem to be the cause, I'd try swapping power supplies next. Regards, Cliff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list