Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST

2007-09-24 Thread Doug Whitesell

On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:03 PM, David Relson wrote:

Just a thought: Is it possible to compile a 64bit kernel and use him
on the current system? That way you could set up your new native  
64bit

system in a chroot before overwriting the old one and thus minimize
downtime to less than 15 minutes.


Florian,

That would be ideal!  It's exactly what I'd do -- if it's
doable.

Hopefully the experts will point to a HOWTO :-

This sounds like a way to infinite pain. (This is at first glance and  
off the top of my head without looking into it, of course...) While  
it may be possible to cross-compile a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit  
system, IIRC unless you have the right runtime libraries compiled for  
64-bit you may have massive trouble getting the system to even come up.


But I'm not an expert on new and cool ways to try things, so your  
mileage may vary.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please

2007-09-24 Thread Doug Whitesell

On Sep 24, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Grant wrote:


So much for that.

I understand sir. Unfortunately I'm about out of rope in this
situation. The only
thing I can really provide to you at this point, is the oppertunity to
flag this for
the management team, and allow them to speak with you directly.

I'll move forward and make sure this gets marked correctly for them.

Please understand that as they work M-F 9 AM - 5 PM CST, it could  
be some time

before you are able to get a response from them. Your patience and
cooperation is
greatly appreciated.

Customer service in the Internet age :(

I would find a new host, but that's just me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST

2007-09-23 Thread Doug Whitesell

On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:


On Sonntag, 23. September 2007, David Relson wrote:

Now that my old AthlonXP mobo has been replaced by an AMD 64 X2 mobo,
it's time for upgrading CHOST :-

According to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml after a
couple of changes to /etc/make.conf, i.e.

  from:
   USE=x86 ...
   CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
   CFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe

  to:
  USE=amd64 ...
  CHOST=amd64-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=x86-64 -pipe

The next step is:

emerge -av1 binutils gcc glibc

The emerge of binutils works fine.  However the emerge of gcc fails
with:

  In file included from .../gcc/unwind-dw2.c:257:
  gcc/config/i386/linux-unwind.h: In function
 'x86_64_fallback_frame_state':
  gcc/config/i386/linux-unwind.h:63:
error: 'struct sigcontext' has no member named 'rsp'

A quick search of BGO didn't show anything relevant.

Any suggestions???

Thanks.

David


boot from cd
mkfs.reiserfs
start stage3 installation.

It is the only safe way. It is faster and much less problematic.
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This is true and is the recommended way; what Albert posted is almost  
effectively a full reinstall.


I would advocate — and have used — the start-from-scratch process.  
Unpredictable result from anything else, and such ... (For some  
reason it's difficult to go from 486 to 686, although by following  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing CHOST

2007-09-23 Thread Doug Whitesell

On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:13 PM, David Relson wrote:


Now that my old AthlonXP mobo has been replaced by an AMD 64 X2 mobo,
it's time for upgrading CHOST :-

According to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml after a
couple of changes to /etc/make.conf, i.e.

  from:
   USE=x86 ...
   CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
   CFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe

  to:
  USE=amd64 ...
  CHOST=amd64-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=x86-64 -pipe

The next step is:

emerge -av1 binutils gcc glibc

The emerge of binutils works fine.  However the emerge of gcc fails
with:

  In file included from .../gcc/unwind-dw2.c:257:
  gcc/config/i386/linux-unwind.h: In function
 'x86_64_fallback_frame_state':
  gcc/config/i386/linux-unwind.h:63:
error: 'struct sigcontext' has no member named 'rsp'

A quick search of BGO didn't show anything relevant.

Any suggestions???

Thanks.

You're getting that _specific_ error because there is no register  
'RSP' (the 64-bit stack pointer in the AMD64 world) in the 32-bit x86  
world. (You have a 32-bit stack pointer 'esp' instead.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Opinions on Host's Decision Please

2007-09-22 Thread Doug Whitesell
You probably were not asking _too_ much. If you are dependent upon  
the system for your livelihood, I'd find somewhere else to host,  
since these folks sound like bozos.


IANAL, but if you have a contract with them there may be service  
level agreements that they're obligated to uphold, and they might not  
be upholding them.

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On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Dan Farrell wrote:


On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:37:23 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few  
days

ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had
been broken into.  I checked my records and found that my root
password had previously been submitted in a support ticket.  I then
decided I needed to reinstall my system.

I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5
days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn
the old system over to them and continue with the new system.

My request was denied!  I'm blown away by this.  Was I asking too
much?

- Grant


Would it be unreasonable to tell us who this host is?  I want to make
sure I don't host any sites on their system; if they can't secure  
their

work tickets, what makes anybody think they can secure anything else?
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