Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates

2021-06-02 Thread Fannys
On June 2, 2021 1:51:06 AM UTC, Grant Taylor 
 wrote:
>On 6/1/21 3:38 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> *Any* CA can just generate a new key and sign the corresponding 
>> certificate.
>
>This is where what can /technically/ be done diverges from what is 
>/allowed/ to be done.
>
>CAs adhering to the CA/B Forum's requirements on CAA records mean that 
>they aren't allowed to issue a certificate for a domain that doesn't 
>list them in the CAA record.
>
>If a CA violates the CAA record requirement, then the CA has bigger 
>issues and will be subject to distrusting in mass.
>
>Certificate Transparency logs make it a lot easier to identify if such 
>shenanigans are done.  --  I think that the CA/B Forum is also
>requiring 
>C.T. Logs.
>
>Also, CAs /should/ *NOT* be generating keys.  The keys should be 
>generated by the malicious party trying to pull the shenanigans that 
>you're talking about.
>
>> All browsers will treat their fake certificate corresponding to the 
>> fake key on their fake web server as completely legitimate. The
>"real" 
>> original key that you generated has no special technical properties 
>> that distinguish it.
>
>Not /all/ browsers.  I know people that have run browser extensions to 
>validate the TLS certificate that they receive against records
>published 
>via DANE in DNS, which is protected by DNSSEC.  So it's effectively 
>impossible for a rogue CA and malicious actor to violate that chain of 
>trust in a way that can't be detected and acted on.

From my understanding its all based on trust and faith unless I take steps from 
my side. That doesnt seem very safe.
Tech should be based on tech. Not faith and trust on the other party.

Marinus


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Re: [gentoo-user] app-misc/ca-certificates

2021-06-01 Thread Fannys
On June 1, 2021 4:45:45 AM UTC, "J. Roeleveld"  wrote:
>On Saturday, May 29, 2021 8:26:57 AM CEST Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:08:39AM +0200, zca...@gmail.com wrote
>> 
>> > 125 config files in /etc/ssl/certs needs update.
>> > 
>> > For certificates I would expect the old and invalid ones to be
>replaced
>> > by newer ones without user intervention.
>> 
>>   Looking through them is "interesting".  There seem to be a lot of
>> /etc/ssl/certs/.0 files, where "?" is either a random number
>or
>> a lower case letter.  These all seem to be symlinks to
>> /etc/ssl/certs/.pem.  Each of those files is in turn a
>> symlink to /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/.crt.  How
>much
>> do we trust China?  There are a couple of certificates in there named
>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Hongkong_Post_Root_CA_1.crt  and
>> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Hongkong_Post_Root_CA_3.crt.  Any
>> other suspicious regimes in there?
>
>I've always wondered about the amount of CAs that are auto-trusted on
>any 
>system. Including several from countries with serious human rights
>issues.
>
>I could do with a tool where I can easily select which CAs to trust
>based on 
>country.
>
>--
>Joost

Is there actually any tool that can let me pick my certificates?
If i go and start deleting randomly certificates from regimes i dont like will 
there be any "breaking change"? 
I suppose firefox uses its own certificate store though.

Marinus


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ package question

2021-05-29 Thread Fannys
On May 29, 2021 8:28:42 PM UTC, Jack  wrote:
>I just noticed that the package x11-libs/gtk+ has slots 2 and 3  
>(nothing new there) however, it seems that version 4 has a totally new 
>
>package gui-libs/gtk with only slot 0 (no explicit slot listed) with  
>currently ~4.2.0 and 4.2.1 versions available.  I've done a quick  
>search through the announce and dev mailing lists, and not found  
>anything relevant.  Is this an intentional switch?  I don't think there
> 
>is much yet that uses version 4, but is there any planned migration  
>path?
>
>Have I missed something?
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>Jack

For the part of the category change it is to my uderstanding that gentoo is 
slowly moving from x11 style categories to gui-* .
Partly due to the wayland starting to become used more. I noticed with sway 
first on that.
As for the slot part somebody more knowledgeable than me can chime in.

Regards,
Marinus

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