Re: [gentoo-user] non-Twinview dual screen setup?
I've uswd xinerama and dwm on my thinkpad w510 and 42 tv without problems. I have no idea if kde supports xinerama still.
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
My thinkpad w510 'just works.'
Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)
I've been using xfs on a 1tb WD MyBook for storage for about a year now, and even with multiple power failures, it's been fine. It doesn't get written to as much as read to, though, and iirc i have a cron job run sync every half an hour.
Re: [gentoo-user] IDE recommendations for writing C?
Acme from plan9port. On Feb 5, 2011 5:11 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone recommend a good IDE to write C code in? 1) Something that can display multiple files in a project. 2) Something that have some sort of version control built into it? 3) If possible, I can compile right in the IDE. I've starting writing something. It's hundreds of lines long in 1 file and I just messed up a brace somewhere which I haven't been able to figure out in vi. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Simultaneously emerging multiple packages with same dependencies
Then ^c and add/remove what you need. On Jan 26, 2011 1:30 PM, PK pkugri...@gmail.com wrote: Don't use multiple instances of emerge, they'll probably all try to merge the same dependencies. Do it the way the portage developers intended, use the --jobs option with a single emerge instance. Sure, but sometimes while emerge is building a bunch of packages I remember that I've forgotten to specify a few more, my only option then is to wait till building process finishes. I think it should be possible to be more efficient than that. Cheers, P.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config for wifi on AMD_64?
Did you enable wireless extensions in your kernel? It's called CONFIG_WEXT or something to that effect in the .config.
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash versions
Manually install flash.
Re: [gentoo-user] ivtv on 2.6.36-gentoo-r5 kernel.
Did you try downloading and building a newer version from the ivtv website? If there's a version there that works with the new kernels, file a bug report on f.g.o for a version bump, and either wait for that or use hand built drivers that won't be tracked by portage. If your card doesn't have drivers that work with your new kernel, you're pretty much s.o.l.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2
That makes perfect fucking sense. On Jan 12, 2011 6:18 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:42 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: On 2011-01-12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:33:02 +, Stroller wrote: No longer updated can mean broken, but it can also mean finished. Boot to BTFS filesystems? Finished != complete Maybe not on the right hand side of the pond, but here in the US finished == complete. If you look in the Merriam-Webster dictionaly under finished both completed and complete are listed as synonyms. Dictionaries document current usage and current usage sucks. The right hand side of the pond invented English so maybe you should call your language American, but we have dibs on English :-) Finished and complete and not the same, they are just similar. Complete is pretty much an absolute. Something is complete, it is done, nothing more can be added, nothing can be removed. Finished is a lower grade of that, a part can be finished and the whole is still incomplete. Grub is finished. There is nothing left to do to it in it's current state at this time. Sometime this year, btrfs will likely be stable and then grub can be extended to use it. That phase will then be finished but grub itself will not be complete. grub cannot be complete as there are always new file systems and boot methods that could be added. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2
Get off your high horse. If I wouldn't of said 'that makes perfect fucking sense, ' what I was trying to convey wouldn't have had the emotion it needed. 'That makes perfect sense' seems to 'off-hand,' without any real feeling to the statement. What it really says is 'that doesn't make any sense, but I really don't care that much.' That was not was I was trying say, what I was trying to say was 'that makes perfect fucking sense.' It adds all of the emotion (sarcasm, in case you didn't notice) to the sentence, while still being concise. Hope that clears things up. On Jan 12, 2011 9:01 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2
On Jan 9, 2011 8:11 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:54:14 walt wrote: The result was a brain-dead booting scheme which has been holding back the Intel/x86 world to this very day. (But they all made a huge bundle of cash along the way.) Capitalism? Greed in another word. (Why use one syllable when 5 will do?) Of course, if all else fails, blame the capitalists! That argument hasn't been torn to shreds for fifty years or anything.
Re: [gentoo-user] VPS has issues emerging everything
What do you have MAKEOPTS set to?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.
The only thing I have changed with openntp is in /etc/ntpd.conf, I added `listen on *`, maybe a few servers and in /etc/conf.d/ntpd or whatever it's called, I added `-s` to OPTIONS. I've been using that on a server for a year and my laptops for over two. I've had no problems with syncing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Good file system that recovers from a power failure.
On Dec 31, 2010 8:18 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not subscribed to one and didn't know it had one. I just get conflicting comments. Some say it is active, some say it is not. I'm sure Hans, or whatever his first name is, isn't doing much work on it although he has a lot of time on his hands to do it if he could. I like the file system myself and was hoping version 4 would get a foot hold. I'm not sure if it will or not. Maybe one day. Dale :-) :-) Off topic: reiser4 with gzip compression is nice for the portage tree :). Mines about 150mb (actually funtoo portage tree, which is actually a fairly large git tree).
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
Could you post your distcc config files?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to build a static application binary?
Iirc there a bug in glibc that makes it almost impossible to create static binaries with it. I can't look the the sources of that info atm, but it be easily found with google. Do the other platforms you use gcc to build static binaries with use a different libc? On Dec 3, 2010 11:14 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-12-03, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Gotta love gcc! It's not gcc's fault. I use gcc on other platforms to create static binaries and don't see any noticable overhead. If you want real static binaries on a unix-ish os, use plan 9. Except that's not what I want. I want a static binary on Linux. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! My Aunt MAUREEN was a at military advisor to IKE gmail.com TINA TURNER!!
Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze
You might want to run spinrite on the drive if you have/can find a copy of it. On Nov 15, 2010 4:33 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Stroller wrote: On 15/11/2010, at 3:56am, Dale wrote: ... I have a niece that brought me her puter. It's a HP with windoze XP on it. I want to defrag the hard drive but the one that comes with windoze won't work. Is there a free defrag tool that is safe on windoze? I would be more concerned why defrag itself (Start Run `dfrg.msc`) isn't working. If it's refusing because there's filesystem corruption, then I would advise against using anything else! You need to be logged in as an administrator in order to run defrag. If you boot XP to safe mode then a user named Administrator will be shown amongst the logon icons, and that user has no password. Running defrag,exe at the command-line (Start Run `cmd`; `defrag,exe /?`) might give an explanation. Running `chkdsk /?`, choosing the most aggressive options and then `chkdsk c:` will cause the disk to be checked for corruption (`fsck` equivalent) at the next reboot. Obviously you should take a backup before doing this, as occasionally filesystem corruption will be *really* bad. Ideally you will disable swap / pagefile before defragmenting and enable it again afterwards. You can boot from a PE boot CD and run defrag from that, but it doesn't really seem necessary. Also check that compress files and folders is disabled http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307987. You're best to apply it to the whole drive (actually tick the box saying you DO want to compress files and folders), but when the dialog box comes up saying shall I apply that to all sub-directories tell it no. Then go back to checkbox again, disable it, then when the dialog box comes up tell it yes. That will crunch away for some time ensuring that compression is not being used at all. Because Windows XP launched a decade ago, when disks were much smaller, the option to compress files and folders is recommended in the Disk Cleanup Wizard, so this option may be set incorrectly, and it is worth checking. Stroller. I am thinking like you on the reason it is not working. It was brought to me because it was not running as fast as it used to. First thing I noticed was that AVG hasn't been updated in about 2 YEARS. I installed the newest AVG and it found hundreds of infections and said it fixed them. I never was a big believer in fixing a infection. Anyway, I got that updated and got it to scan until nothing was found. While doing that, I noticed the drive was really doing some serious searching while booting and such. It is also pretty slow to boot. The poor drive light stays on about all the time and you can hear the heads going back and forth. I wanted to run defrag just to see if it would help. I figure if AVG hasn't been updated in that long, I doubt they ran defrag either, not to mention it doesn't work. I couldn't get Defraggler to work either. Different error and I even tried a older version that wasn't beta with the same results. I then found mydefrag and gave it a try. So far, it is working on it and it seems to be doing something at least. The window makes it look like it was fragmented really bad. It looks like something that would come out of a blender after hitting frappé. If this completes, I'm going to let them try it to see if it is any better. If it is still not to their liking, they will just have to get a windoze CD and I'll reinstall from scratch. That should help. In case you can't tell, I don't claim to know a lot about windoze. People in my family just like me to work on their puters. I worked on puters until windoze 3.1 came out. I changed careers. I got tired of that pretty quick. I just thought DOS was bad. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze
Sounds like something is wrong with te drive, and spinrite.can probably fix it. On Nov 15, 2010 9:16 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 November 2010 13:13, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to run spinrite on the drive if you have/can find a copy of it. Why? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] [Waaay OT] Defrag tool for windoze
Defraggler. Ccleaner by the same company is also nice.
Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit-Executables on a AMD64 system...
Crosstools On Nov 9, 2010 12:39 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com [10-11-09 18:36]: On 9. 11. 2010 18:25, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: But: Is it possible to compile source code on a 64-bit system and get an 32-bit executable a the result ??? And if 'yes'...how??? I think that is what cross-compilation is good for... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. Is there a toolchain already setup for cross-compiling 32-bit executables on a AMD64 system, or do I have to do all that cross- compiling magic by myself ? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Deliberately obfuscating my code
Only expose the teams to what they need, give them prototypes and discriptions to the other parts. Like a man page. On Nov 9, 2010 12:16 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Read the OP again. He wants to obsfuscate the code to make it unreadable for the people he's hiring to work on it. It would be simpler and cheaper to hire developers who don't understand programming language in question, computers, programming in general, or even english. Then don't let them access any computers that have the source code. You'll get better results that way -- far fewer bugs will be introduced. The idea isn't to make the code unreadable. Obviously anyone working on it needs to be able to read and understand it. This idea was brought on while reading a Wikipedia page about modular programming: Theoretically, a modularized software project will be more easily assembled by large teams, since no team members are creating the whole system, or even need to know about the system as a whole. They can focus just on the assigned smaller task. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_programming I don't mind system administration but I don't want to be a programmer any more. I'd like to hire programmers to work in the manner described above. They would each work on modules and not know about the system as a whole. How can something like this be implemented? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Winter clock change did not happen
Why don't you just use openntpd ( or whatever it's called)?
Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery
Diff your make.conf and package.use files. Somethong is probably missing. On Oct 23, 2010 3:46 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, On most of my kde workstations when I plug in a usb(memory)stick and popup screen appears Devices recently plugged in: On one kde system, this does not occur and I do not know what app/software to install or configure lsusb shows the device properly, just like the other system. None of the systems that work correctly use coldplug, all have the dbus flag set in make.conf. Any hints are most appreciated. James
Re: [gentoo-user] ridiculously wide handbook pages
They're readable even on my droid x. On Sep 30, 2010 1:15 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I wouldn't swear to that). For example, look at this page: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2 The normal text paragraphs have lines that average over 160 characters per line. The generally accepted guideline for line length in order to maintain good readability is 40-80. The above page's lines are 2-4 times as long as recommended for good readability, and they are in fact so long that I can't make my browser wide enough to see an entire line. Line lengths that long make the pages hard to read even if you _can_ make your browser wide enough to show an entire line. The regular handbook is a little better: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 That has lines that average about 140 characters. That's still much longer than what I'd consider good practice. Do the extremely long lines in the handbook web pages bother anybody else? I can understand that things like example code blocks or sample command input/output blocks might need to be wide enough to require horizontal scrolling of a browser window, but normal text paragraphs with 160 characters per line? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Is this going to at involve RAW human ecstasy? gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ridiculously wide handbook pages
Not if I rotate the screen. On Sep 30, 2010 7:17 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-09-30, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1chap=2 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 They're readable even on my droid x. Really? You don't have to scroll back-and-forth to see an entire line of text? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ridiculously wide handbook pages
Just the default android fonts. They're small, but readable. Thank google for pinch zoom. :p
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to compile for less bits :)
Cross compiling on unix is confusing because the compiler sucks. On Sep 29, 2010 3:50 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-09-29, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: (And in this context: The aud... Thank you very much for your offered help! Sorry, sorry I think my English confused a lot of i... Cross-building stuff is just plain confusing. I'll try it again. Setup BEFORE I switched to 64bit Gentoo Linux. * a normal system gcc a... All you need to do is build a cross compiler for the ARM9 target the same way you did before. The width of the host where you're building things doesn't matter (if it does, that's a bug in gcc or binutils). I've had excellent results using the crosstool-ng makefile: http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/projects/crosstool Crosstool is used by a lot of embedded developers. If there were problems building an ARM comiler on an AMD64 host, Yann Morin et al. are your best bet for a solution. You may want to take a look at the crossgcc mailing list: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gcc.cross-compiling http://sourceware.org/ml/crossgcc/ From a brief search of the mailing list, it appears that building an ARM compiler on an AMD64 machines works just fine. or, It's quite likely that you can install IA32 libraries on your AMD64 host OS and then use the exact same compiler executable you used before. OR: compiled to be an 32bit gcc-executable which generate executable binaries for my ATMEL ... You really don't want to do that. It's rather tricky, and it shouldn't be required. * Additional chuck audio application only available for 32bit Linux, to be compiled with th... Just use the arm-linux-gcc compiler and you should be fine regardless of the width of the host on which you built the arm-linux-gcc compiler. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! It's the RINSE CYCLE!! at They've ALL IGNORED the gmail.comRINSE CYCLE!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to compile for less bits :)
There's already great cross compilers on plan 9. No need to write a new one. On Sep 29, 2010 8:15 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010-09-29, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Cross compiling on unix is confusing because the compiler sucks. We're all looking forward to the better one that you're writing. ;) [I admine that gcc has its warts, but you evidently haven't dealt with some of the compilers I have.] -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Starting up gpg-agent (and ssh-agent?)
You should look at net-misc/keychain. pgp8E2jyldl87.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] valgrind showing glibc warnings
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:09:36AM -0300, Crístian Viana wrote: hi, when I use valgrind, it shows hundreds of warnings related to glibc. here's one example, from valgrind ls: ==10023== Use of uninitialised value of size 8 ==10023==at 0x55605A4: (within /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so) ==10023==by 0x5560111: (within /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so) ==10023==by 0x4A1E62C: _vgnU_freeres (in /usr/lib64/valgrind/amd64-linux/vgpreload_core.so) ==10023==by 0x548CE84: (within /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so) ==10023==by 0x548CEF4: exit (in /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so) ==10023==by 0x40864D: (within /bin/ls) ==10023==by 0x5476A25: (below main) (in /lib64/libc-2.10.1.so) while that happens, I can't use valgrind because there's too much noise besides my program's [possible] memory errors. any idea of why is this happening? I reemerged =sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1-r1 but nothing has changed. cheers, Crístian. You may want to look into supressions. There's an option called --gen-suppressions. See the man page for details. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgp5VUL5Q1HwM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] f-spot depends on mono?
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:31:52PM +0800, Xi Shen wrote: hi, when i try to emerge f-spot, i found that it pull in dev-lang/mon, and all its dependencies. why f-spot needs mono? since when mono becomes stable, and is used in real linux application? F-spot is written in mono. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpQkeVS8jPGy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: valgrind showing glibc warnings
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 03:31:19PM -0300, Crístian Viana wrote: either valgrind is doing something wrong or there's really some errors on glibc. I wouldn't doubt it. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpfRllZuHu01.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewing suggestions?
There's app-text/gv, which is very small. There's also page from plan9port. If you want to try out page, don't install plan9port from portage, it's horribly out of date. You should download a recent tarball from http://swtch.com/plan9port. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpbL4e2O3AEv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] slim-themes : gentoo 10 years of compiling
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:29:18PM +0200, KH wrote: Hi, I created three slim themes based on the beautifully wallpapers created by Ben Stedman. You can find the wallpapers here. [1] The themes I created can be found here: gentoo_10_purple: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_purple/gentoo_10_purple.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_purple/gentoo_10_purple.tar.bz2 gentoo_10_blue: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_blue/gentoo_10_blue.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_blue/gentoo_10_blue.tar.bz2 gentoo_10_dark: screen shot: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_dark/gentoo_10_dark.png files: http://www.konstantinhansen.de/source/slim_themes/gentoo_10_dark/gentoo_10_dark.tar.bz2 Hopefully they will be available with the slim-themes program soon. For the time being you might just untar them and move them to your /usr/share/slim/themes/ folder. Don't forget to edit your /etc/slim.conf Enjoy kh [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/graphics.xml I don't use SLiM, but these are really nice. Great work! -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgptM7Z3Gq240.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Icon loading problem after updating for GNOME based application
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 01:48:57PM -0600, Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, After updating my system I find out that some gnome based applications have problem with png images. For example, I got this message when trying to open stadict Can not load image. Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/stardict.png' and this problem happened to at least two of my machines. Does anyone know what is going on with my system? I use KDE 4.3.2 then only gtk USE flag is enabled on my box. Please see the output of emerge --info in the attached file for more information. Thanks a lot Hung # update-mime-database /usr/share/mime-info # update-mime-database /usr/share/mime % update-mime-database ~/.config/mime -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpTLBKDXZkkh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is login on forums.gentoo.org broken?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:40:58PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Montag 28 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I can't login to forums.gentoo.org. If I try, nothing happens; I'm just taken back to the index as if I had logged in, but I'm still logged out. There's no error message or anything. Is it just me? no, it is not just you No, it's me too. I can't login with opera-10.00, but I can with uzbl. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpFiD4sRvTsJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the WIMP paradigm isn't efficient. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgplSwfb3ZRYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:30:49AM +1000, John H. Moe wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 Lars Gustauml;bel wrote: blockquote cite=mid:20090912163747.ga1...@axis.g33x.de type=cite pre wrap=On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, a class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href=mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de;meino.cra...@gmx.de/a wrote: /pre blockquote type=cite pre wrap= I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. /pre /blockquote pre wrap=! Hi! I've been using fvwm2 (a class=moz-txt-link-freetext href=http://fvwm.org;http://fvwm.org/a) for years now and am quite happy with it. Although it may look old and strange at first (the default settings are rather horrible IIRC), it is possible to configure every tiny detail of it using config files. I am still sometimes amazed of what you can do with it. The fvwm manpage has everything you need to know. The complexity is also its main drawback: it took me several weeks to have it the way I wanted it. fvwm is indeed rather complicated at first but that's why it's so powerful. It is really flexible and you can still use all the little gui tools out there from other window managers. One cool feature of fvwm is that you can assign different window styles based on the application, e.g. I have a graphical system monitor on my third desktop, that is started when I log in via .xinitrc and always stays on bottom, never gets the focus and does not appear in the window list or on the task bar, so it does not interfere with the rest of the system at all. Before using fvwm2 I used KDE which had too much stuff I didn't really need. (However, I am still using the KDE kicker panel with fvwm, which I think is quite funny.) When I looked for a new window manager I tried fluxbox for a few days, but it did not convince me. Then I tried fvwm and stayed with it. Regards, /pre /blockquote Vote #2 for FVWM.br ul liIt does nothing (or at least, an absolute minimum) by default/li liyou can configure it to be just about whatever you want/li liman pages explicitly say it can be used mouse-less, and I'm like you: I grew up with old, command-line systems and am still more comfortable with thatnbsp; :-Pnbsp; so I've configured most mouse bindings to keys as well/li liSupport for extras via FVWM Modules, so that the core system itself stays small.nbsp; If you want to add a desktop pager, add the FVWMPager module.nbsp; If you want a taskbar, add the FVWMTaskBar module.nbsp; Even a popup banner at startup with FVWMBanner, if you're in to that sort of thing..nbsp; :-P/li liHowever, as previous poster pointed out, all this configurability is also a bit of a drawback, in that there are a LOT of configuration items to trawl through to find what you want. But most things I've wanted to do I've been able to find an example of on the FVWM forums, which are quite helpful.br /li liFrom what I've read, you can also use FVWM-Themes to try and get a jump start with some possible configs, but I've never used them, so I can't comment on their worth or helpfulnessbr /li /ul HTHbr br John Moebr /body /html Please don't send html mail to the list. It looks the above quote. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpaAB5II54Bx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error emergin mkinitrd
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:23:23PM -0700, walt wrote: On 09/11/2009 08:58 AM, Massimiliano Ziccardi wrote: Hi all. I've a problem trying to emerge mkinitrd. Everytime I try, I get: * ERROR: sys-apps/mkinitrd-3.5.7-r3 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2212: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die nash compile failed.; A search at bugs.gentoo.org turned up this bug report, filed in June and solved almost a month ago: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268285 So why is package still broken? Good question. Why are more people not complaining? Dunno. I don't use that package and it seems that very few others do. Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to install mkinitrd? Because making a initrd is a pain in the ass, and he probably doesn't want to use genkernel. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpJxtBChiq0d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] my gentoo cannot find my HD
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:57:51AM +0800, Xi Shen wrote: Hi, i installed my gentoo x64 on my usb HD, because i have to use windows for my work. but the problem is that if i boot from the usb HD, it cannot find the HD on my laptop. the gentoo 2008 installation cd works very well, so i think i must have missed some drivers in the kernel or module. i have included anything that is related to ide, scsi, sata, and usb. is there anything else i should do to make my HD on laptop work? my laptop is thinkpad t61. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84 Do `lspci -n` and paste it's output at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/. Also look at Pappy's kernel seeds.[1] [1]http://62.3.120.141/~pappy/ -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgp0OQtoGPKDi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I find new packages?
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 01:46:43AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: There used to be a package which ran after a sync to report new and updated packages. At some point a year ago or so, it disappeared. I have long since forgotten its name. Is there some way to do this now? I could probably write some script to simply search /usr/portage for ebuilds which were modified or created since the last time it ran, but I can see it having a few false positives from other changes. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o It sounds like you're thinking of the eix-diff application that comes with eix. When using eix-sync, it's run after the sync is complete to update the eix database; but it can be run by itself. To update a eix database, run 'eix-diff /var/cache/eix.previous /var/cache/eix' after you run eix-update. It will show all new ebuilds, what was removed, et cetera. Hope that helps. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpONht7hHahP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain. How would I remove these? Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -C =cat/pack-ver -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpjxGy8cIuwz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Email Virus Scanner
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:15:41PM +0100, John wrote: Please can you recommend a email virus scanner. I am a little unsure about all the combinations available. I wish to scan incoming email on my home desktop. I currently use Claws Mail and was looking for the simplest option. Many Thanks -- John D Maunder j...@articwolf.myzen.co.uk Maybe app-antivirus/clamav? -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgppYF6q9ZVEB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] installing git with masked packages
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:56:45PM -0400, Dave wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install git on gentoo. I'm getting a dependency that is masked, it's a perl lib and am wondering a workaround? Thanks. Dave. _What_ perl lib is it? There's over nine thousand of them. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpaY5B0IT777.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com This isn't RedHat. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpaJXpm7R3kN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 06:23:23PM -0500, Dale wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: This isn't RedHat. But it applies to Gentoo as well. From my xorg.conf.example on Gentoo. # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #OptionDontZap It's a valid option on every Linux I have ever played with. Dale :-) :-) Never noticed that. Thanks for the info, Dale. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpN8hckhs7aG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
You need to emerge xorg-server. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:33:54PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Just curious. The fluxbox ebuild doesn't emerge xorg-server which means I now have a machine with fluxbox emerged but I don't know how to start it as there is no xstart on the machine. What would be the lightest way to get X running right now? man startfluxbox suggests fluxbox can be started from .xsession if I use xdm and xdm doesn't seem to require very much be emerged so I'm doing that now. The purpose of this experiment is that if I get X going then I have a chance of seeing whether the the Open Source ati-driver TV feature out actually works for my 9100 IGP chipset. Thanks in advance, Mark -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpN22omiM6de.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Mutt + GPG
I'm trying to setup mutt with gpg and I found this nice tutorial (http://codecorcery.net/old/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto) but I'm having trouble getting mutt to fetch keys and add them to my keyring. Right now my .muttrc looks like this (just the pgp part): unset pgp_autoencrypt unset pgp_autosign set crypt_autosign=yes set crypt_replyencrypt=yes set crypt_replysign=yes set crypt_replysignencrypted=yes set crypt_timestamp=yes set crypt_verify_sig=yes set pgp_clearsign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_decode_command=gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_decrypt_command=gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_encrypt_only_command=pgpewrap gpg --batch --quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to 0x152C688E -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to 0x152C688E -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_export_command=gpg --no-verbose --export --armor %r set pgp_getkeys_command=gpg --recv-keys %r set pgp_import_command=gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f set pgp_list_pubring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys %r set pgp_list_secring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r set pgp_sign_as=0x152C688E set pgp_sign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_strict_enc set pgp_timeout=300 set pgp_replyencrypt set pgp_replysign set pgp_verify_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --verify %s %f set pgp_verify_key_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --fingerprint --check-sigs %r set pgp_verify_sig=yes Right now if I go to the command line and do `gpg --recv-keys keyID`, then start mutt it verifies that the key is valid, but if I don't I just get an error saying in the 'gpg: Can't check signature: No public key' and in the status bar 'PGP signature could NOT be verified.' I haven't sent any mail since the whole thing isn't working right yet, so I can't say anything about that. Anyone know what I did wrong? -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt + GPG
No, :p. I do now, and everything works fine. Thanks, Uwe. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Uwe wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Jacob Todd wrote: I'm trying to setup mutt with gpg and I found this nice tutorial (http://codecorcery.net/old/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto) but I'm having trouble getting mutt to fetch keys and add them to my keyring. Right now [snip] Anyone know what I did wrong? -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! Hi Have you set the following in your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file: keyserver keyserver address keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve From http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/UseGPG HTH -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Uwe \ / against HTML e-mail | keksvernichter@@gmail.com x against MS attachments | Key: 93BF09A2 @ pool.sks-keyservers.net / \ www.asciiribbon.org| Key: 93BF09A2 @ keys.gnupg.net -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpnx12zxoZXE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: buying a keyboard
Did you check craigslist? On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 02:14:04PM -0600, Adrian wrote: Greetings; Many moons ago I purchased a Linux Cool Keyboard. The great thing about this keyboard is that a. it has great tactile response and b. it has a cover which folds down to protect the keyboard when not in use. It's finally getting worn out, keys are sticking pretty bad. I would like to get a new one, but the company I purchased it from (via the internet) seems to not exist any more. Some google action has not resulted in locating any similar keyboards. Anyone know where I might find such a keyboard? Thanks much. Adrian -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
Re: [gentoo-user] Icon Editor???
What format are the icons? What's 'Indexed mode'? What are 'Button Screens'? On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 04:58:52PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I am trying to create button screens and such stuff for a touch enabbles LCD of 160x80 pixels (pure black and white). Unfortunately I couldn't convince gimp to set black pixels when using Indexed mode... And converting an rgb/grayscaled picture to b/w is no option, since on a 160x80 screen this would result in broken lines and such... I there any Icon-Editor which is able to handle text (kiconeditor can't do that) and the other more general graphical drawing operations? Or any other application with which I could acchieve what I want? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Kind regards, Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
Re: [gentoo-user] irssi autosendcmd
Turns out autosendcmd for irc.freenode.net wasn't spelled correctly. . On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:11:35AM +, Matt Nordhoff wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: I'm having some trouble getting irssi to set my nick on two irc servers and then identify them. My current irssi config (just the important part) looks like this: [snip configuration] My nick gets set and identified on irc.oftc.net, but not on freenode. Anyone know what could be going on here? I don't know if this will help, but... 1.) The /network command has a -nick option; you shouldn't have to use -autosendcmd to change your nick. 2.) FWIW, both Freenode and OFTC support alternate ways of identifying: On Freenode you can use a server password, and on OFTC you can use a client-side SSL cert: http://www.oftc.net/oftc/NickServ/CertFP -- -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
[gentoo-user] irssi autosendcmd
I'm having some trouble getting irssi to set my nick on two irc servers
and then identify them. My current irssi config (just the important
part)
looks like this:
servers = (
{
address = irc.oftc.net;
chatnet = oftc;
port = 6667;
use_ssl = no;
autoconnect = yes;
},
{
address = irc.freenode.net;
chatnet = freenode;
port = 6667;
use_ssl = no;
autoconnect = yes;
}
);
chatnets = {
oftc = {
type = IRC;
autosendcmd = /^nick jt_;/^msg nickserv identify passwordlol;
};
freenode = {
type = IRC;
autocendcmd = /^nick dreadlorde;/^msg NickServ identify passwordlol;
};
};
channels = (
{ name = #suckless; chatnet = oftc; autojoin = yes; },
{ name = #awesome; chatnet = oftc; autojoin = yes; },
{ name = #gentoo; chatnet = freenode; autojoin = yes; }
{ name = #uzbl; chatnet = freenode; autojoin = yes; }
);
My nick gets set and identified on irc.oftc.net, but not on freenode.
Anyone know what could be going on here?
--
Jake Todd
// If it isn't broke, tweak it!
[gentoo-user] Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf
I'm getting the following warnings when I boot/come back from hibernation: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release. WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa, it will be ignored in a future release. WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/pnp-aliases, it will be ignored in a future release. WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release. I just noticed these yesterday because I had to reboot my machine. When did this change in config files happen? Should I just rename the config file in /etc/modprobe.d/ so that they all have .conf at the end, or is there another process I need to do when upgrading? I'm using ~x86. -- Jake Todd
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to fake USE flag change
You're right, it shouldn't. Things like that happen to me all the time, I'll already have a use flag disabled, and it will get turned off by default, and portage will want to rebuild it. You could make a local overlay with that LINGUAS flag not set, but it seems a bit much. I'd like to know a solution to this too. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:05:35AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: but regardless of how much time it needs, a change of a LINGUAS flag I don't even use should probably not trigger a rebuild anyway.
Re: [gentoo-user] partition-based backup/cloning tool...
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:59:06PM +0200, Jarry wrote: Hi, is there some software for live partition backup/copying/cloning with raw/smart copying capabilities, like Acronis TrueImage, Norton Ghost or OO DiskImage in windows-world? Some of them should have linux version (e.g. clonezilla), but I did not find anything in portage... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. Clonezilla?
