Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers,
Some time around when Spectre/Meltdown were announced, I started experiencing similar problems. I don't know "what's wrong" because so far I have found no answers. The best I can offer at this point is that on my system, it seems that it will work with Nouveau drivers much better than the system currently works with NVIDIA drivers. Unfortunately, I haven't managed to get a working version of that yet, but I usually only manage to put a few hours a week on trying to figure it out. I fortunately haven't had the problem that I have to kill power to the computer, though I think I have gone through some times I have needed to reboot, rather than just get back into X either through killing processes, or (very rarely) stopping one problematic process which is the source. On 03/18/2018 09:40 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > Gentlemen, we have a problem... > > Okay, ~ a week ago there was a power outage at my place, everything goes > down for a day or two. I had recently refreshed my UPS batteries, so I > had a chance to put that into the circuit, no biggy. > > Since nobody will offer me a job, I was playing Kerbal space program yet > again. (not even Don Corleone could get me a job at this point, I > frequently joke about the horse head trick but, seriously, I don't think > even that would work...) > > So, after all of two and a half days of uptime, nvidia drivers takes > x'-doze down. > > I was like "Ok, fine, I'll do a maintenance cycle on my machine and all > will be good..." > > So I update the bios, update the kernel, update portage, flush a few > dead packages down the memory hole... Ok, my system was in shape again... > > So, I'm back in kerbal, another day or two goes by, I'm sitting there > trying to figure out whether I have enough room in my departure corridor > to slot in a contract mission to Jool.. I wasn't even sitting down, just > poking around in my kitchen. When I got back, the game was frozen. I had > to log in with my PoS laptop which is useful only for this task. I found > that KSP, and X'doze were live-locked, presumably on a Nvidia-drivers > bug. =( I tried killing off KSP but it ended up going zombie... I tried > killing off parent processes, no luck, I then tried shutting down the > machine the normal way, no good. I eventually ended up going to the > dusty 28 year old power commander thing and throwing the big orange > switch labelled COMPUTER (complete and instantaneous removal of power). > > What's going on here? Nvidia drivers have been stable for years... > what's the deal? =\ > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Emerging media-sound/supercollider fails with"multilib-strict check failed!"
I'm not sure where best to address this, so for now I am starting here. I'd like to have this addressed, and be able to emerge it without disabling "multilib-strict" as it seems that this has been enabled because these packages are going to end up hard failing before too long. Is there a good way to end up reporting these kinds of things? I really wish this (and other packages which might have this problem) fixed. If this isn't the right place to put this, could someone tell me where, and if I need other information? Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype
On 11/27/2017 10:14 AM, Lex Luthor wrote: > Yeah, MS can have some pretty malicious practices. When they acquired > Skype they *removed* the E2E encryption. I am only using it for people I occasionally contact who are using it. Specifically there is a group who I am involved with is ~800 km away, and my only contact is online, but they use Skype, so I looked to see what was happening with that. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[solved] Re: [gentoo-user] Skype
Thank you, On 11/27/2017 10:02 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > Hello, > > On Monday, November 27, 2017, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku > <jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com > <mailto:jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com>> wrote: > >> I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I >> actually wasn't getting good information... > > If it is keyworded it is "supported" unless you are using very niche > software. This does not mean anyone will be able to help you fix things > quickly. I think that I wasn't really clear as to where I was looking, and what I meant by supported. I know that it runs, and that it works as expected in terms of Gentoo. What I was looking at was the Microsoft page, and what I saw there wasn't entirely clear. Looking again, I see they say "5.* is at end of life, and is being decommissioned as of now". This is all that is in the main gentoo repository. So, while it runs fine, it doesn't actually do what people would be installing it for (there are overlays which provide newer, and at least most recent major version, versions). > Unstable packages typically run well. I routinely fix issues by using > unstable or even unkeyworded packages over the stable versions. Most > issues arise when stable and unstable packages interact, usually due to > breaking interface changes. So, paradoxically, an unstable (or testing) > system can be more stable than a stable system. I have few problems with how well it runs. It's just that it fails to connect to the server. It appears often getting stuff like Skype to run we need to install from an overlay, or install manually. > If you fix an issue by using an unstable package you can request > stabilization. Sometimes people forget to do it. For a package like > Skype, though, I suspect it will be stabilized as soon as possible. I *could* be mistaken, we will need to update the versions available to get it to work. I have a suspicion that it isn't really being maintained. I'm not sure. I am having trouble finding "release history", as I can't see what comes between skypeforlinux 5.* and 8.*, and 8.* *seems* to have been released less than a month ago. I agree with what has been said. Microsoft has been very well known to break things for other operating systems, especially for "Microsoft" type stuff (as opposed to stuff that people don't really understand it is Microsoft unless they are very aware). Thank you everyone, I *think* this is solved. I haven't installed, or tested yet, but rion overlay is giving me what I need (at least it should). Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Skype
Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo? It feels like about 3 days ago I was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version. If this keeps happening, to me, this is broken. And I'm not sure if the problem is that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing. I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory. When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that worth trying to figure it out." I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a whole lot more work. But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case, but I need to have some better understanding). I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I actually wasn't getting good information... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unlocking Plasma desktop in Gentoo without systemd
I had a similar (if not identical problem). This solution is a "difficult" solution, the reason I experienced this (if I understand) was that I was running KDE at the same time I was updating KDE. I can't remember if I simply rebooted, or if all it took was logging out, and logging back in. Even if I had rebooted, the *most* that should be required is restarting X, which if you are running XDM may require restarting XDM, or as stated, simply logging out and logging back in (but that might not be possible from KDE running in this broken mode). It should happen relatively infrequently. If you are doing unattended updates, you are likely to run into this kind of problem from time to time. I do not recommend it except for "security" updates, which I don't believe there is an automated process in Gentoo to do. Ie. I don't believe Portage flags updates as "security" updates in any way, so a single command of "emerge --update --security-only @word" (to my knowledge) isn't really a possibility. Though, also, I haven't been following recent discussions that closely, and I only recently returned to Gentoo after about 10 years away. On 09/11/2017 10:49 AM, Mick wrote: > I started a plasma session and after some period of input inactivity I > noticed > the screen blanked out. Later on I moved the mouse and to my surprise I > obtained this message: > * > "The screen locker is broken and unlocking is not possible anymore. > In order to unlock switch to a virtual terminal (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F2), > log in and execute the command: > > loginctl unlock-sessions > > Afterwards switch back to the running session (Ctrl+Alt+F7)." > * > > Given this is a non-systemd Gentoo installation and I intend to keep it this > way as long as reasonably practicable, what should I instruct the user to do > to recover their current plasma session? > > If this is a default Gentoo installation with openrc, why does a default > plasma desktop screenlocker comes up with this nonsense? > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mount: Permission Denied in CHROOT
1 -msse4.2 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe" > DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" > FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" > FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified > distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync news parallel-fetch > preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn > unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync xattr" > FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" > GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/gentoo-distfiles/ > ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/gentoo-distfiles/; > LANG="en_US.utf8" > LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed" > MAKEOPTS="-j2" > PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" > PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" > PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times > --omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats > --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local > --exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git" > PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" > USE="acl amd64 berkdb bindist bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cxx dri gdbm > hardened iconv ipv6 justify modules multilib ncurses nls nptl openmp pam > pax_kernel pcre pie readline seccomp session ssl ssp tcpd unicode > urandom xattr xtpax zlib" ABI_X86="64" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 > atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 > es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio > via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" APACHE2_MODULES="authn_core authz_core > socache_shmcb unixd actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon > authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default > authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi > cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter > file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime > mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir > usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="kexi words flow plan sheets > stage tables krita karbon braindump author" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df > interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse > sse2" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore > fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock isync itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom > oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf skytraq superstar2 > timing tsip tripmate tnt ublox ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="libinput keyboard > mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 > lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" > LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-console presenter-minimizer" > OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" PHP_TARGETS="php5-6" > POSTGRES_TARGETS="postgres9_5" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_4" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby21 ruby22" > USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="amdgpu fbdev intel nouveau radeon radeonsi > vesa dummy v4l" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 > ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq > steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account" > Unset: CC, CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, CXX, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, > LC_ALL, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, > PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, USE_PYTHON > > > > When I try to mount the partitions outside of chroot everything mounts > fine. Within chroot, I get a "permission denied" when trying to mount. I > am kind of stuck because when trying to install grub, I am getting: > > grub-install /dev/sda > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition > device /dev/sda4. > grub-install: warning: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition > device /dev/sda4. > grub-install: warning: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition > device /dev/sda4. > grub-install: error: disk `hostdisk//dev/sda4' not found. > > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Mike -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Issues updating world on new install (gmp symptom)
On 2017-08-07 14:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 07/08/2017 23:47, Jigme Datse Rasku wrote: > > I have been working with trying to get a new system installed, and the > > first problem I run into is that it fails on the configure stage of gmp. > > > > [snip] > > > # emerge -pqv '=dev-libs/gmp-6.1.2::gentoo' > > [ebuild U ] dev-libs/gmp-6.1.2 [6.1.0] USE="asm cxx -doc -pgo > > -static-libs" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32*)" > > In the two attachments, the build log says it's a FLAGS/ABI error. > Your env file has this: > using ABI="64" > CC="x86_64-pc-linux-gnux32-gcc" > CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" > CPPFLAGS="" > CXX="x86_64-pc-linux-gnux32-g++" > CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" > MPN_PATH=" x86_64/k8 x86_64 generic" > > emerge output above says ABI_X86="x32" is switched OFF. > > You need to switch it on. > ABI_X86 config is covered in detail at wiki.gentoo.org. > Thank you, I could see that was possibly a problem, but it wasn't something which I intentionally changed, and trying to get what looked like the problem fixed, seems to have had no effect whatsoever. I'll go look at the wiki see if it explains it better. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Don't miss the 1 500 000 000 Unix second!
On 2017-07-14 08:15, Andrew Tselischev wrote: > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 08:42:01PM +0700, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > >> when time_t reaches 2 billion. > > > > He meant 2k38 problem, when time_t will overflow int32 :) > > I would bet that somewhere there is a quick-job shell script that parses > unix timestamps with regular expressions and assumes they start with a 1. :D > Why do I feel that we've already gone through at least one upgrade of "Unix Time" already. I'm not sure if it was something like going from int16 to int32, or more that it went from signed int32 to unsigned int32. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Online hosting recommendation - VMs?
Linode just updated their gentoo image, it works out of the box (I failed to get the previous version to work, but if I had been willing to put a week into getting it working, as with most things Gentoo, probably no problem). Their 1024 (I think) VM should be able to do way more than your in the cupboard machine. I'd like to know if other people have other solutions. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku On 2017-03-25 19:57, Stroller wrote: > Hello, > > In the next few weeks I need to move my email server (a very old Gentoo > installation) from the closet in my home, into the cloud so that I can go > travelling and access my mail from anywhere. > > I've never used VM's before, but my understanding is that they look just like > a normal machine to the users inside them, and there shouldn't be any problem > with me getting used to them. My current mail server is an old 700mhz Pentium > III (I think), so performance is unimportant. I guess VM's have some kind of > web or VNC console I can log into for the initial install (and if I screw up > remote access)? > > 1. Are these suppositions right? > 2. Any recommendations for cheap / reliable hosting providers, please? > > I expect to use Gentoo because I've hardly used any other distro for years, > and find others less intuitive. > > Thanks, > > Stroller. > > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] cron tab
If I remember, it runs on the 1st to 5th day of the week, and the third day of the month. But I'd have to look to be sure. On 2017-03-21 17:27, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I have a cron tab entry: > 5 18 3 * 1-5 > > To my understanding it will run 18:05 on the 3rd day of the month, from > Mon-Fri. > > So why did this cron entry run today? > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!
I have 3 of these class of device (if I recall) 3 Crucial SSDs where I have only had issues with the one install of the device, and I'm not really sure *why* that might be causing problems, but I suspect that a good part of why it "just won't work" is because of the UEFI system on that machine, or something installed "inside" the UEFI which makes it confuse the heck out of the machine. I have intended to boot into and install Gentoo on it, to see if doing so is "doable" or if I should strip the machine, and hope I can get some useful components out of it. Perhaps the optical drive would work well, on this machine, though I don't really have a reason to switch this machine's optical drive out right now. My suggestion is the drive *should* be under warranty, so get a replacement that way, and hit up some other manufacturer if you can afford to. I have heard people say that they have had drives running for 10 years, but I may have misheard. On 2017-02-12 14:40, Alan Grimes wrote: > Dear god, I think I have come in contact with one of the suckiest things > in the universe! > > I mean first there are supermassive black holes... OK... Then there's > Crucial MX300 SSDs, and in a distant third there's Justin Beiber. > > I mean the absolute suckyness of MX300 SSDs defy human comprehension. I > mean you could connect one of these: > http://www.zmescience.com/science/biggest-most-poweful-engine-world/ to > a suction pump and it couldn't possibly suck one quintillionth as much > as this SSD... > > I mean if the power goes out, and you want to do some vacuuming, just > put your MX300 behind the bag in your vacuum and it'll work better than > normal. > > Seriously, what could possibly suck harder than a SSD which dies stone > cold dead after only 20 days?!?!?! Thank god I had done nothing worse > than store my rusty old Velociraptor on a shelf, and by good fortune it > only took about two days to get it updated... I really hadn't intended > to ever use it again. =\ > > I'm not sure what lesson I should take away from this except that > Crucial does not have any business selling SSDs. =\ > > I'm not sure where to go from here. My 'raptor is very close to > exceeding it's reliable lifespan, by some standards it already has... > But now the QC of these SSDs has been shown to be outrageously bad. =( > > So does anyone have any evidence of a current generation SSD lasting > more than 20 days? > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting X11 to "underscan"...
Thank you everyone. It now seems to be working. Not sure if the setting is a per input setting or not, but the main issue was the one input from the computer. On 2016-10-19 12:11, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-10-18, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/18/2016 08:57 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2016-10-18, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I have three different manufacturers and each one has it, but on mine it > >>> wasn't marked in the manual. > >> > >> Not all TVs can disable overscan. The last time was shopping, many of > >> the Sony Bravias couldn't (that was a few years ago). On some TVs > >> I've seen, in order to disable overscan the signal resolution has to > >> match the panel resolution exactly... > >> > > > > Yeah, I understand about the Sony TVs. A friend bought one in 2012/2013 > > and we even emailed Sony and their reply was it can't be done. > > > > Until I found an option under Setup called Screen or Screen Display, and > > set it to Full Pixel. That disabled the overscan. > > Several other brands also have some odd, trademarked, phrase for the > "disable overscan" feature, so keep an eye out for display modes with > odd names invented by a marketting person who never quite understood > what that mode actually does. > > If you ask about your model in some of the home-theater forums, > somebody usually knows. But, you've got to wade through those awful > web-UI based "forums"... > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM XSession list?
Thank you. On 2016-10-18 10:58, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/17/2016 10:42 PM, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote: >> I suspect that I probably ended up masking certain packages around the time >> that KDE5 was getting pushed out, but it seems that the "mess" I am >> currently experiencing might be worth looking at what I have done with KDE >> to see if there is some stuff which I now need to "unfix". > >> Though, your answer didn't address what I had intended to ask. Which was >> how to figure out what KDM is using for the session list. > > > /usr/share/xsessions/ > > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting X11 to "underscan"...
In terms of the make and model, it is a Panasonic Viera TC-P42S30. On 2016-10-18 12:32, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 10/18/2016 08:57 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2016-10-18, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have three different manufacturers and each one has it, but on mine it >>> wasn't marked in the manual. >> >> Not all TVs can disable overscan. The last time was shopping, many of >> the Sony Bravias couldn't (that was a few years ago). On some TVs >> I've seen, in order to disable overscan the signal resolution has to >> match the panel resolution exactly... >> > > Yeah, I understand about the Sony TVs. A friend bought one in 2012/2013 > and we even emailed Sony and their reply was it can't be done. > > Until I found an option under Setup called Screen or Screen Display, and > set it to Full Pixel. That disabled the overscan. > > Again, not documented, but it was there. And it's never labeled as > Overscan[ning] which would be the intuitive way to label it. > > With my other TVs none of them had it in the manuals, I found them by > trying all the settings on the TV. > > Another option would be for the OP to post make/model of TV, maybe > there's a non-obvious way to change it on his TV - you just never know. > > Dan > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting X11 to "underscan"...
The output of xrandr is attached (not sure if that works or not). Every single resolution fails to work. As I drop down to about 640x480 it *almost* displays enough to be workable, but at that resolution on a 41.6" display is really not going to work. There were about 4 resolutions (with the KDE Hardware settings) which actually worked. No, there is no VGA input on the TV. The video card is already using VGA, and I don't believe that monitor actually has any other alternative anyway. Thank you for your help. On 2016-10-18 05:20, Michael Mol wrote: > On Monday, October 17, 2016 07:48:29 PM Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote: >> So far after much digging on the TV I haven't found a way to actually get it >> to do what I want. I'm not sure if it even can. I will look when I next >> get access to the system (currently in use by other members of the >> household). Perhaps somewhere we have a manual for it? I really don't >> know. >> >> I agree, that it would be preferable to not have to make the computer fudge >> it, but if after having spent time trying to fix it on the TV itself >> multiple times, only to find that all options I have found, end up >> producing very undesirable results (such as displaying it a 4:3 aspect >> ratio, or a 2:1 aspect ratio). I'll see if I can find what I need. >> >> I do know that if I could get the TV to change the setting for that so it >> doesn't end up overscanning, without doing other "weird" stuff, it would >> mean that I could see the full boot process, not missing bits of it off the >> edge of the screen. >> > > Once upon a time, in the days of analog displays, we used modelines to > accomplish what you're doing. > > I don't think modelines work with pure-digital outputs, though. Does your TV > have a VGA input, and does your box have a VGA output? That would be an > effective, if not ideal, solution. > > Alternately, have you tried setting your display to an unusual resolution? > What's the output of the xrandr command? It should give you a list of > supported resolutions refresh rates, including flags to tell you which ones > are > selected and which ones are recommended. Often, with digital TVs, there will > be a resolution you can use that evades the TV's overscan emulation. > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3200 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 698mm x 392mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.9424.0023.98 1920x1080i60.0059.94 1400x1050 59.98 1280x1024 60.02 1280x960 60.00 1280x720 60.0059.94 1024x768 60.0460.00 960x720 60.00 1440x480i 59.94 928x696 60.05 896x672 60.01 800x600 60.0060.3256.25 700x525 59.98 720x480 60.0059.94 640x512 60.02 640x480 60.0060.0059.94 512x384 60.00 400x300 60.3256.34 320x240 60.05 VGA-1 connected 1280x1024+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm 1280x1024 60.02*+ 75.02 1280x960 60.00 1152x864 75.00 1024x768 60.0475.0875.0370.0760.00 960x720 60.00 928x696 75.0060.05 896x672 75.0560.01 832x624 74.55 800x600 75.0070.0065.0060.0072.1975.0060.32 56.25 700x525 74.7659.98 640x512 75.0260.02 640x480 60.0075.0072.8172.8175.0066.6760.00 59.94 720x400 70.08 576x432 75.00 512x384 75.0370.0760.00 416x312 74.66 400x300 72.1975.1260.3256.34 320x240 72.8175.0060.05 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting X11 to "underscan"...
So far after much digging on the TV I haven't found a way to actually get it to do what I want. I'm not sure if it even can. I will look when I next get access to the system (currently in use by other members of the household). Perhaps somewhere we have a manual for it? I really don't know. I agree, that it would be preferable to not have to make the computer fudge it, but if after having spent time trying to fix it on the TV itself multiple times, only to find that all options I have found, end up producing very undesirable results (such as displaying it a 4:3 aspect ratio, or a 2:1 aspect ratio). I'll see if I can find what I need. I do know that if I could get the TV to change the setting for that so it doesn't end up overscanning, without doing other "weird" stuff, it would mean that I could see the full boot process, not missing bits of it off the edge of the screen. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku On 2016-10-17 16:47, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 10/17/2016 04:41 PM, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote: > > When I connect the iMac to our HDTV TV, I can set it to underscan. The > > reason that I would like to do that is because when I display at 1080p > > the TV ends up dropping the edges of the image off of the screen. This > > isn't really a problem at all for TV, or movies or whatever displayed > > there, but if KDE displays the standard panel on the top or bottom, only > > a thin line of pixels shows where it is supposed to be (don't know about > > left or right as I haven't used them). This also ends up being an issue > > in MATE. Is there a way to get it to send a 1080p signal which is > > postboxed in the sense that black bars are being added top, bottom, > > left, and right? These black bars are "outside" the interface. > > > > Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku > > > > It's often far easier to set the TV to disable overscanning. Some TVs > it's an actual option in the menu; in others simply assigning the HDMI > input label as "PC" or similar will disable overscanning. > > Dan > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] KDM XSession list?
I suspect that I probably ended up masking certain packages around the time that KDE5 was getting pushed out, but it seems that the "mess" I am currently experiencing might be worth looking at what I have done with KDE to see if there is some stuff which I now need to "unfix". Though, your answer didn't address what I had intended to ask. Which was how to figure out what KDM is using for the session list. On 2016-10-17 19:36, Philip Webb wrote: > 161017 Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku wrote: > > In my attempt to update yesterday I ended up uninstalling startkde, > > which meant I couldn't get into KDE any more. > > You need kde-plasma/plasma-workspace . > You can emerge it from a raw terminal. > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
[gentoo-user] Getting X11 to "underscan"...
When I connect the iMac to our HDTV TV, I can set it to underscan. The reason that I would like to do that is because when I display at 1080p the TV ends up dropping the edges of the image off of the screen. This isn't really a problem at all for TV, or movies or whatever displayed there, but if KDE displays the standard panel on the top or bottom, only a thin line of pixels shows where it is supposed to be (don't know about left or right as I haven't used them). This also ends up being an issue in MATE. Is there a way to get it to send a 1080p signal which is postboxed in the sense that black bars are being added top, bottom, left, and right? These black bars are "outside" the interface. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] KDM XSession list?
In my attempt to update yesterday I ended up uninstalling startkde, which meant I couldn't get into KDE any more. I was wondering if there is some place I can find where the list of xsessions (startkde or whatever) is stored, or how it is generated? I am seeing two different sessions listed as Kodi on the system. And I'd like to know why, and to better differentiate them if there is a good reason that there are two of them. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No...
With Pulseaudio the best way (I have found) for controling the volume, is through the pulse audio volume controls. It works well for me. Though they are somewhat of a pain (though not sure if that's because I simply don't know the "easier" way to handle them. I also tend to like to handle volume control through external speaker controls if practical. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku On 2016-10-15 23:48, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> [16-10-16 07:00]: > > On 161015-20:27+0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> this evening I updated GENTOO and a new firefox was installed. > >> This one seem completly to disable flash video finally... > >> since I got no video/audio at all. > >> > >> I disabled all flash-related addons of my firefox and > >> restarted it. > >> > >> Now I got a video ... but without any audio. > >> (I am running jackd by the way). > >> I check with qjackctl whether there were any > >> ports which I missed to connect...nothing. > > > > If jackd is to do with alsa, then it could be the following. > > > > Mozilla went pulse all the way: > > Require PulseAudio on Linux > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 > > See also: > > Firefox nightly requires Pulse Audio > > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20=130028 > > > >> Hmmm... > >> > >> Is there any fix for that? > > Not familiar with jackd. But as far as alsa (which I stick to, like > > other discontented users), I don't have sound since months ago. The > > only way to get it would be to compile alsa myself, I'm afraid. > > > > Regards! > > -- > > Miroslav Rovis > > Zagreb, Croatia > > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr > > Hi Miroslav, > > THANKS A LOT ! :) > > ...got it working...somehow... > > I installed pulseaudio and used pactl to set the default sink > and source to the one soundcard (onboard), which is connected > to my loudspeakers. > > Drawback: Setting the volume seems only to be tweakable via > the volume slider of the HTML5 player in Firefox...and my alsa > volume "app" of my taskbar doesn't work anymore. > > Hopefully the rest of my sound stuff still works > > > Cheers, > Meino > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestion for freenode
I like that. Haven't got to even reaching the "dev in training" stage, but I'd like to have some place where I can ask general gentoo-dev questions. I have a couple of projects which I'd like to get working with a simple "emerge". Well. One which is essentially a single project (LedgerSMB) another which is much larger (Matrix chat protocol, and at least the software I am using myself (Synapse, Vector-Web, unplug currently)). Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku On 2016-09-03 21:37, Raymond Jennings wrote: > I think #gentoo-mentors should be filled by people willing to serve as > mentors, and cater to devs in training who need a mentor ^^ > > What do you guys think? -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia drivers and vanilla kernel Linux 4.7.0 anyone?
I have an earlier version of the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers installed (361.28), but if I recall, I couldn't get x11 to use them. Or maybe they are already using them, but I don't know it (but I believe I couldn't get the tools to recognize that they were being used). My understanding is that using the correct framebuffer drivers is as good, if not better than using the official nvidia ones. But as I don't believe I have had the opportunity to do so, I can't really say. Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku On 2016-07-29 22:36, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > trying the new kernel linux-4.7 (vanilla, downloaded from > ftp.kernel.org) with nvidia drivers > (Installed versions: 367.35-r1^md(03:00:46 07/30/16)(X driver kms > multilib uvm -acpi -compat -gtk3 -pax_kernel -static-libs -tools > -wayland KERNEL="linux -FreeBSD")). > The kernel compiled fine, the nvidia-drivers does not. > > Anuone else with the same problem (read: This has to be > fixed by nvidia/Linus) or am I the only one (so it is > my problem...which does not neccessarily imply that I > know how to fix that ... ;) ??? > > Best regards > Meino > > > > -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call. ... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail. ... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail. ... ...
[gentoo-user] Virtual machines, and creating bootable images
I am looking at creating a gentoo install which I can use for my hosted servers. The documentation I have seen about doing so is to mount an "ISO" and then dd the mounted device to a data drive, make the data drive bootable (set it in the settings for hosting provider) and attach it to a server. I want to be able to build these images and test them in a virtual machine on my local server, then end up doing what I need on the hosting provider to get them in place. Quick research hasn't given me any clear guidance as to how I can export the virtual machine (ie. what even can do this) to an image that can be copied to a drive to produce a bootable drive. Anyone have some good starting points to think about this? Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku -- Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku jigme.da...@datsemultimedia.com (Preferred address for new messages) 250-505-6117 Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku PO Box 270 Rossland, BC V0G 1Y0 Canada ... ... This message should be electronically signed, and if the sender ... ... has your public key, may also be encrypted. ... ... If you have any questions about this, please email, or call.... ... ... ... Note, unknown calls likely will go to voicemail.... ... Please leave a message if you get voicemail.... ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
