Re: [gentoo-user] OT 0.0.0.0 security query
Le Dimanche 28 Mai 2006 16:53, Dave S a écrit : Yep, same here. I was trying to lock down my router. By default it allows any outgoing packets and only allows incoming packets if they are related to the incoming packets. I was trying to lock down my outgoing packets so services such as Samba would not broadcast anything to the WAN. As such I defaulted outgoing to BLOCK and allowed only certain ports. However I then needed to allow ports between computers ie for Samba again. When I opened the port on the LAN between computers my router wanted at least one IP address for the WAN. I did not want to give it a real address so choose 0.0.0.0 I was really asking ... (a) Is it worthwhile setting up my router this way, or am I being paranoid :) I do not think it wise to setup your router that way. Here's a little of theory. I apologize if you're familiar with it, but it is necessary for latter development. When in a LAN, a packet will not reach the WAN unless you specify you want it to, that includes broadcasts. An element of an IP address is a number between 0 and 254. 255 is used only for broadcasting. Moreover, rsync and samba, and most daemons take as a paramater the address or address range they can accept connections from. An incoming connection from the WAN, could not connect to the daemon even if it wanted to. (b) Is 0.0.0.0 and invalid IP address (I though it might be) because that is what i was looking for to trick my router to send nothing to the WAN An IP address is meaningful only in conjunction with a mask. 0.0.0.0 with mask 255.255.255.255 means broadcast to every single IP address that exists. Since the mask indicates between which boundaries the IP number can vary (in this case every IP address item can vary between 0 and 254). As a conclusion, this is definitely not what you want to do ! ;-) So, taking as a hypothesis that you trust everyone on your LAN, here's what you should do : - Et the policy for incomiong connections to BLOCK. - Unblock the services you actually need the net to access. Plus, in the config file of the daemon, specify it should listen to 0.0.0.0 - Allow traffic from your LAN to the WAN (again, if you trust everyone). And set up each daemon to only listen to 192.168.0.1/24 (which means only addresses that begin with 192.168.0). - Set up daemons to broadcast on 192.168.0.255 I hope this was clear, I have hardly slept last night ! -- Jonathan PS : No need to apologize for the delay, I know even gentooists have lives ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound issues
Hi, Amarok can use a variety of sound engine (arts, xine, gstreamer), but juk only uses aKode. So, the common denominator seems to be arts. Did you install arts ? If so, de-activate it and retry, it is known to cause problem since it captures the sound device. Other than this general advice, I'd need more info to help you (what engine are you using, do you have sound in KDE (I mean system sounds)...) -- Jonathan Le Dimanche 28 Mai 2006 10:53, Jamie Dobbs a écrit : Having just reinstalled Gentoo (AMD64) on my PC and setting up sound according to the ALSA How To I can play audio files, in this case MP3's, fine in XMMS but when I try them in either Amarok or Juk they are choppy and unlistenable. Can anyone suggest how I might go about diagnosing and fixing the issue that is causing this? Thanks Jamie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Modules dependencies problem!
Without more info I can't be much help. But here's a pointer, just in case : The modules init script launches modules-update, which can be launched at the command line. The error you have is consistent (and, looking at the code of the scrip can only be caused by) modules-update failing. You should try to launch it yourself at the command-line. You should get some output that could be useful. modules-update has a man page. You should look at that too. The main cause for this behaviour would be : - modules-update thinks your modules.conf is not auto generated and refuses to overwrite it. - there is a mistake in one of the files in /etc/modules.d/ . I have seen this caused by etc-update, which can sometimes munch files. Hope this helps, -- Jonathan Le Samedi 27 Mai 2006 17:19, El TuZa a écrit : Hi guys, I'm having a problem during initialization. It happens that 50% of the time that I boot my desktop, when Calculating module dependencies says Failed to load modules dependencies (with the corresponding red exclamation marks) and when it gets to the loggin message it never loads kdm, and once I log via console I can't load kdm either. That's very annoying because the only way I can find now is to reboot and see if now it loads modules dependencies (usually the second time works fine). Did anybody have that kind of problem? What could I do? Thanks, Tuza -- Fui a hacer el ITV y me dieron la oblea. Junto a ella un paquete de Operas y un CD de Pavarotti. Todo encaja a la perfección. Todo, menos la marcha atrás. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT 0.0.0.0 security query
Le Samedi 27 Mai 2006 11:40, Dave S a écrit : Hi all, This is a bit OT but I have a netgear router DG834 ADSL firewall router. I have restricted my incoming services with ... Enable Service Name Action LAN Server IP address WAN Users Log on bit torrent ALLOW always 192.168.0.5 Any Always Default Yes Any BLOCK always Any Any Never And tightened my outgoing services with ... Enable Service Name Action LAN Users WAN Servers Log on HTTP ALLOW always Any Any Always on HTTPS ALLOW always Any Any Always on POP ALLOW always Any Any Always on SMTP ALLOW always Any Any Always on NTP ALLOW always Any Any Always on FTP ALLOW always Any Any Always on rsync ALLOW always Any 0.0.0.0 Never on GM Port 389 ALLOW always 192.168.0.6 Any Always on GM Port 1503 ALLOW always 192.168.0.6 Any Always on GM Port 1731 ALLOW always 192.168.0.6 Any Always on GM 1024-65K ALLOW always 192.168.0.6 Any Always on H.323 ALLOW always 192.168.0.6 Any Always on Port 1023 ALLOW always Any Any Always on Samba ALLOW always Any 0.0.0.0 Always on samba2 ALLOW always Any 0.0.0.0 Always on samba3 ALLOW always Any 0.0.0.0 Always on Any(ALL) BLOCK always Any Any Always Default Yes Any ALLOW always Any Any Some services like rsync and samba I want to keep within my LAN but my DG834 insists I give it a least one IP address on the WAN that my service can be broadcast to. I selected 0.0.0.0 Can anyone advise, am I going about this the right way, any comment greatly appreciated :) Cheers Dave I am not the best net admin on earth, but it seems to me that 0.0.0.0 is definitely not a broadcast address. If you want to keep things in your lan, you should have something like 192.168.0.255 instead. Moreover, I do not quite understand what you are trying to do. I had approximately the same router (same brand anyway), and it did not block any lan-only services. What you're telling it is, for example, to block *outgoing* rsync. This should not in any case be blocking an rsync between two machines inside your LAN. I hope this helps, even if i am not quite sure I understand what you're trying to do. -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Confused with the --oneshot option of portage.
Le Mercredi 24 Mai 2006 09:55, Richard Fish a écrit : On 5/24/06, Jonathan Chocron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here are my questions : With world being autogenerated Not sure I would call it 'autogenerated'. It is more accurate to call it the list of packages that you have merged without the --oneshot option. - If I emerge a library, like xvid with emerge xvid, it will end up in world. How do I revert that ? Do I have to emerge -C xvid and then emerge --oneshot xvid ? That is one way. You could quicken this with quickpkg xvid; emerge -C xvid ; emerge --oneshot --usepkgonly xvid. Or just edit /var/lib/portage/world by hand to remove xvid. - If I emerge -Dup world, will the listed packages alkl end-up in world ? No. Only the packages you specifically merge without --oneshot end up in world. Dependancies of world or system packages that show up when you add -D/--deep are not added to world... - If I first emerge a package, for example kmail, with emerge kmail, and later, during an upgrade phase, do an emerge --oneshot kmail, will kmail be removed from world ? No. Only unmerging the package, or ediiting the world file, will remove it from world. -Richard Thanks, that shed some light ! -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question on my USE choiche
Le Samedi 20 Mai 2006 12:47, Neil Bothwick a écrit : On Sat, 20 May 2006 10:52:30 +0200, Jonathan Chocron wrote: I mean that kdelibs should have the arts useflag set. Otherwise uou can't have any system sound (either through alsa or oss). KDE has an option to use an external player for system sounds, so you can still have them without aRts. No, I tried that. Kde will only use the external player if kdelibs has been compiled against arts. It took me a while to figure that out, since I too am using an external player for sounds. If you don't want to use arts, you just have to compile kdelibs against arts, and not the rest of kde. Regards, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB devices (dvd writer+scanner)
Le Dimanche 21 Mai 2006 21:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello, I want to use linux for dvd writing and scanning. Both my scanner (Canon) and my dvd writer (BenQ) are usb devices. How can I know which device files these devices use? Or how can I configure a device file for these devices? Thank you very much in advance, Steffen pseiko pseiko # lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 009: ID 04a5:1007 Acer Peripherals Inc. (now BenQ Corp.) Bus 001 Device 007: ID 04a9:2220 Canon, Inc. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d49:7010 Maxtor Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID : pseiko pseiko # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices [snip] //The scanner T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 7 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a9 ProdID=2220 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Canon S: Product=CanoScan C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=500mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=(none) E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=16ms E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=03(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms // I guess this is the dvd writer? T: Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=02 Cnt=02 Dev#= 9 Spd=480 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=04a5 ProdID=1007 Rev= 1.12 S: Product=USB 2.0 Storage Device C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 512 Ivl=125us Hi, I am not sure what you mean by device file. If you mean a device node, that is a logical file in /dev, you will not find any for the scanner. 1) For the scanner. First of all, make sure your scanner is supported ! I switched from canon to epson because canon scanners were not very welle supported. Then, you have to emerge sane-backends with the usb useflag set. Figure out which backend your scanner use on the sane website (sane-project.org, if memory serves). Then, in the config file of the backend, set the usb id : usb product id device id For example, I added use 0x4b8 0x110 to /etc/sane.d/epson.conf for sane to detect my epson 1650. If your scanner is always plugged, you'll need to emerge coldplug and rc-update add coldplug default. You might have permission problems at that stage. Check the permissions on /proc/bus/usb/001/007. You must have rw rights to be able to use the scanner. 2) For the CD burner. It seems your cd-burner uses the usb-storage driver. It should then appear as /dev/sdX, provided you configured your kernel correctly. It should be useable at that address. You can do an lsscsi to figure out what to tell cdrecord, but any GUI (k3b...) should be able to detect and use your burner. I hope this helps, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked packages
Le Dimanche 21 Mai 2006 16:11, Daniel D Jones a écrit : I get the following error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/db/pkg # emerge -uDvat world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies - !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =net-misc/neon-0.25.3 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - net-misc/neon-0.25.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - net-misc/neon-0.25.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. !!!(dependency required by gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.14.1 [ebuild]) !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/unison !!! Depgraph creation failed. Curiously, gnome-vfs isn't installed on my system. (I don't even use gnome.) Should I simply unmask neon or is there a better way to handle this error? One of your package must depend on gnome-vfs, and tries to pull it when you emerge -Dup world (maybe it's just the upgrade that depends on it, most probably because of a new useflag). You could just unmask neon, but IMHO, gnome-vfs and neon would be installed on your system during the upgrade process, and I don not think that's something you want. Try a qdepends -Q gnome-vfs to figure out what package is pulling it, and fiddle the useflags accordingly. BTW, what version of portage are you using ? Regards, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question on my USE choiche
Le Samedi 20 Mai 2006 08:18, Anthony E. Caudel a écrit : However, you'll need kdelibs to be compiled against it if you want to hear sounds in kde (and I mean sounds generated by kde, not sounds from amarok...) Not sure what you mean by this. Should arts be installed before emerging kdelibs? Or something like this: USE=arts emerge kdelibs (which of course pulls in arts)? Tony I mean that kdelibs should have the arts useflag set. Otherwise uou can't have any system sound (either through alsa or oss). But it should be the only one. The rest of the Kde system does not have to be compiled against arts so should remain with the arts useflag unset. Moreover, in the control center, one should definitely tell kde to use alsa and not arts. Yes, I know, this amounts to installing a program in the specific view of not using it, but it's the only way that I know of to enable system sounds in Kde. -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error with sys-apps/apmd
Le Samedi 20 Mai 2006 07:03, Jim a écrit : On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 19:31 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I think you need to re-emerge libtool and then run fix_libtool_files.sh 3.4.4 allan Ahh, thanks for the tip. I never knew about fix_libtool_files.sh. Jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol Oh, that's what it was all about ! I fixed the problem with an ugly symlink (I am ashamed). Well, thanks for the tip ! Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question on my USE choiche
Le Vendredi 19 Mai 2006 09:56, Leonardo a écrit :
Hi all,
my first post to Gentoo lists!
I already installed Gentoo some time ago, and want to restart
now from zero, to see how much I've learnt in the meantime.
My biggest doubt has always been which USE flags to use.
I do a lot of home work with multimedia stuff (audio, video...)
and need also a lot of scientific and programming stuff.
Tiny spare time is used to study networking and such.
So I put together a list of flags, that at first sight looks
huge; here it is:
USE= cups eds emboss foomaticdb gdbm gnome gpm gstreamer
imlib libg++ libwww mad mpeg -nptl pdflib spell
truetype-fonts type1-fonts X xml aac aalibaccessibility acpi
alsa arts avi bitmap-fonts bidi bluetooth bonobo bzip2
cdparanoia cdr crypt cups dbus dga dio directfb dv dvb dvd dvdr
dvdread emacs emboss encode esd examples ffmpeg fftw flash
fortran ftp gb gcj gif ginac gphoto2 gps gstreamer gtk gtk2
guile hal hardened icq idn iee1394 imagemagick imap inifile
jabber jack java javascript joistick jpeg jpeg2k kde
kdeenablefinal kdexdeltas libcaca lirc lm_sensors matroska
mikmod mime ming mng mmx motif mozilla mp3 msn mysql mysqli nas
ncurses offensive ogg openal opengl osc oss pcmcia pdf perl php
png prelude python qt quicktime readline ruby samba scanner sdl
slang sockets socks5 sox speex spell sse sse2 ssl svg tcltk tiff
usb truetype unicode v4l vcd vorbis wifi win32codecs wmf
wxwindows xine xinerama xml xml2 xmms xosd xpm xprint xv xvid
yahoo zlib
First question: is it a good starting point or is it
excessive/unneccessary?
That's a little excessive. For example, you have cups twice.
The thing is, useflags are now cascading, and you don't seem to use that
feature very much. For example, truetype-fonts, type1-fonts are included in
your make.default. Hence, they are already present opn your system, there is
no need to specify them twice.
Moreover, some of the usflags you specify are definitely local useflags. For
example, libg++ affects only postgresql. It should not be in your make.conf,
since it makes it very hard to read. (Moreover, libg++ is enabled by default
in the make.defaults).
You have a typo : aalibaccessibility .
You might want to avoid putting arts in your useflags, since arts is
definitely the worst thing that can happen to your sound system (No flamewar
intended, even the kde devs have decided to take it out of KDE4). However,
you'll need kdelibs to be compiled against it if you want to hear sounds in
kde (and I mean sounds generated by kde, not sounds from amarok...)
So, to sum up, what I would do is :
1) Put USE= and do an emerge --info to see which useflags are enabled by
default.
2) Ask myself the question : Do I really want *any* application running on my
computer to have feature foo. If the answer is no, the useflag should be
in /et/portage/package.use
3) Organise the useflags in make.conf by theme : For example
## System
USE=alsa mmx sse sse2
## Desktop environment :
USE=${USE} gnome kde kdeenablefinal
...
I find this more readable than a long USE=... list.
If I avoid putting things in does it mean that if I add them in
a second moment probably some of the installed stuff needs to be
recompiled?
If you add a useflag, there should not be any problem. However, the app will
make use of the new feature only if it has been recompiled.
If you remove a useflag, from a library for example, the apps linked to that
library can break. You'll need to recompile the apps.
Anyway, if you change your useflag one way or the other, you should :
1) emerge --newuse --ask --verbose world
2) revdep-rebuild
Thanks, Leo
Beware of automatic useflags :
- Portage 2.1 (stable)
Beware that those versions of portage have automatic useflags enabled. For
example, if you emerge mysql, the mysql uselfag will be turned on globally.
If you unmerge it, the useflag will be turned off (except if it is mentionned
in any of the config files).
- Portage 2.1 (unstable, but really, works very well) does not have that
kind of behaviour.
I hope this was clear enough,
-- Jonathan
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Re: [gentoo-user] New USE Flags, Emerge -e world -- Broken systems -- PLEASE HELP
Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 10:22, Neil Bothwick a écrit : On Thu, 18 May 2006 06:48:44 +0200, Jonathan Chocron wrote: Yes, USE= is a good start. However, one has to take into account that portage adds use flags while going through the emerge process. For example, if you install mysql in order to use it with amaroK, mysql would, after that emerge be turned on as a global useflag. Dynamic USE flags have been removed from portage 2.1, thankfully. That's exactly right, but I was assuming he used the stable version of portage. I now use unstable, precisely because they removed that feature ! Cheers, Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uninstalling portage
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 05:32, Rennie deGraaf a écrit : I am trying to build a number of minimal Gentoo images without portage installed. The approach I was taking was to build a master image with all the software that I need according to the standard Gentoo installation instructions, and then remove portage and create the minimal images. If I ever decide that I need to install new software or upgrade something, I'll make the changes to the master and generate new minimal images. My question is, how do I correctly uninstall portage? My main concern is the several hundred megabytes taken up by /usr/portage, /var/cache/edb, /var/db/pkg, /var/lib/portage and wherever else portage /var/lib/portage takes up only 8.0Ko ! Are you sure you can't spare that ? ;-) stores data; I'm not really concerned with the binaries, but would prefer to remove them as well, just to be tidy. Will emerge -C portage clean up everything safely, or will I have to clean up some directories manually? For that matter, what are all the directories used for data by portage, that I could delete on a system that doesn't use portage? Thanks, Rennie deGraaf The portage program itself does not take up that much space. It's only python scripts and most of them are pre-compiled. The main space hoggers linked to portage are : - /usr/portage (739M), including /usr/portage/distfiles (228M) - /var/tmp/portage (should be empty unless you specified keep or interrupted an emerge). - /var/cache/edb (100M) - The overlays if you have any (/usr/local/portage by default), - The PKGDIR, if you have any (/usr/portage/packages by default). Even /var/db/pkg takes up only 80M on my system, and that is, with kde-meta merged. As has been said, emerge -C portage will NOT remove any of those directories as they are not filled during portage's merge to the main tree. However, you can remove them manually. You might want to know that you are going to get errors if you remove the contents of /usr/portage. For example, env-update will not work as an environment variable wants to import the tree. I think it just wants to import the profile, though, so you might be able to remove the various categories. Or, you could edit the file responsible for this in /etc/env.d. Regards, -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New USE Flags, Emerge -e world -- Broken systems -- PLEASE HELP
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 18:01, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : Timothy A. Holmes wrote: On 5/17/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks - I have a major problem brewing here im afraid: I have several systems that I had originally built with the Gentoo installer disk -- As such they have a very large group of use flags, and a fairly large genkernel. In wanting to lean them out and optimize them for running, went in, rebuilt the kernel, and apparently with a bad genkernel does not use USE flags, so, that's not related, probably. Someone will tell if I'm wrong. understanding of how portage and the USE flags interact, removed all the use flags, changed them to: USE=-* Heh, once I tried that... Its better leave it empty than putting this. You CAN put -*, but then you would have to create a fairly large packages.use in order to get a working system. That includes every package listed in emerge -pv world with an entry. Remove that option, start with minimal USE flags and reemerge world. You're lucky you didn't try emerge -e system after that. and ran emerge -e world. The processes have all failed, and now I have broken systems -- for example, eterm wont start at all, nor will it build on a re-install, firefox is messed up (the fonts look funny) and im starting to panic. Is there any way short of rebuilding these systems to get things working right again? You're lucky that you still have a working system after all. You even get a working portage, so, nothing to worry about. Fix your flags and reemerge world. -- [Timothy A. Holmes] Turns out all 5 systems are totally broke - I will be rebuilding all of them -- If anyone can suggest a good set of minimal use flags, I would be most thankful Tim I would start with the defaults, eg. leave USE= (blank) in make.conf and then start editing package.use to modify them from there. type emerge --info to see ALL of the use flags that are being used Yes, USE= is a good start. However, one has to take into account that portage adds use flags while going through the emerge process. For example, if you install mysql in order to use it with amaroK, mysql would, after that emerge be turned on as a global useflag. If one wants to keep a clean system, they have to compensate for this behaviour, and check, at the end of an emerge process*, that the list of useflags has remained unchanged. *(NOTE : not at the end of the merge of every single package, but at the end of the merge of one list of package, since emerge reads the USE variable once at the beginning of the merge process, even if there are 20 packages on the list). Oh, and unless you are a developper, there are some defaults useflags you can turn off, like fortran, for example. One last thing, I would suggest using euse, which is part of gentoolkit, to check the meaning of a useflage. It searches both use.desc and use.local.desc. -- Jonathan Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to check dependencies for sloted apps?
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 22:58, Martins Steinbergs a écrit : hi, I decided to clean my Gentoo install and I started with 'emerge --prune --pretend' what gave me some list of apps. Then I did equery depends pkgname for each package, but problem is with sloted ones such as gtkhtml, autoconf, db and a lot from Gnome tree. How to specify (syntax) package version to search for with 'equery depends' if this is suported? Unless you really now what you are doing, I would suggest steering clear of autoconf, since a lot of packages require different version of autoconf. qdepends gives me this output, I cant understand is this broken or both versions are needed by php, xorg and kmail? mar martins # qdepends -Q gtkhtml-1.1.10-r1 depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/dev-lang/php-5.1.4/DEPEND) depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1/DEPEND) depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/kde-base/kmail-3.5.2-r3/DEPEND) mar martins # qdepends -Q gtkhtml-3.10.1 depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/dev-lang/php-5.1.4/DEPEND) depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1/DEPEND) depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/kde-base/kmail-3.5.2-r3/DEPEND) I'll be glad to see your input. Maybe out there is some better script? martins I have kmail installed, and I do not have gtkhtml installed. Plus, I just checked, kamil does not depend on gtkhtml. This error just means that the script could not check dependencies for that specific package. However, you should see a list of package that depend on the package you input on the command line. For example : qdepends -Q qt outputs : [snip] kde-base/konsole-3.5.2-r1 kde-base/ksplashml-3.5.2 kde-base/kdm-3.5.2 kde-base/libkmime-3.5.0-r1 kde-base/kpdf-3.5.2 kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5.2 depends: i'm such a fatty, could not eat_file(/var/db/pkg/kde-base/kmail-3.5.2-r1/DEPEND) kde-base/kdeaddons-docs-konq-plugins-3.5.2 kde-base/mimelib-3.5.1-r1 kde-base/kde-i18n-3.5.2-r1 [snip] I think this simply means that the script does not know whether or not the package depends on qt. If that is all the output you get, I think you can remove gtkhtml. Anyway, for non critical apps, this is what I do whan I want to clean the system : - qdepends -Q $package - Oh, great, nothnig seems to depends on that ! - qpkg $package - emerge -C $package - revdep-rebuild I hope this helps !! -- Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash-3.* ignores the first press of Shift+M
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 22:44, Benno Schulenberg a écrit : Hi all, This is absurd, but when in bash-3.1_p17 I press Shift+M, the M only appears the moment I press another key. This happens both in Konsole and on a VT. And also in xterm and rxvt. It happens also in bash-3.1_p14 and bash-3.0-r14. And sash-3.7-r1. But _not_ in bash-2.05b-r11, nor in tcsh-6.14-r3, nor in zsh-4.2.5. Also typing in vim or nano works fine, and in KMail and KWrite and Firefox and Konqueror. So this is purely a problem of the bash-3.* series. I tried different CFLAGS (-O2 instead of -Os), a different compiler (gcc-3.3.6-vanilla instead of 3.4.6-hardened), no difference. I've tried starting bash with '--noprofile --norc', even with 'env -i', it all makes no difference: any first press of Shift+M does not show an M; only the next keypress makes the M appear. Is anyone else seeing this? Or am I going bananas? Benno I have come across that kind of behaviuour when I was playing with unicode settings. It happened when I was using a unicode console with a non unicode keymap. However, it only happened on accented characters (the ones composed with a dead key of course, but also all the other ones !). The thing I can tell you is that I have no such problem with bash-3.1_p16, compiled with gcc-3.4.5-r1 and glibc 2.3.6-r3. All three of them have the nls usflag enabled. Are you sure there are not any app on your system that capture this specific combination ? What keymap are you using ? -- John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Spam, spam, spam
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 01:03, JimD a écrit : Is there a good spam filter out there? One that is not a pain to setup and use? My current setup is postfix, procmail and bogofilter. Maybe I haven't trained bogofilter enough or something. After three weeks, I have yet to have one spam marked as spam. It gets marked unsure, for which I have procmail stick those in a maildir folder. I want something easy to setup and use. Right now I have a Spam maildir. Under that folder I have mark-bad, mark-good and unsure. I move email to mark-bad/mark-good as needed and have a cronjob that tells bogofilter to check those folders and update. What is really frustrating is that I keep getting the same spam in my inbox. Some viagra junk. I have told bogofilter it is spam about 10 times in the last 2 weeks. So, what is a good _home user_ setup? I don't want to use the built-in junk filter of Thunderbird because I get my emails over IMAP from different locations, so I want 1 spam solution. Danka for any help :-) Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol I'd go with spamassassin. It is quite easy to set up, features auto-learning, and is very efficient (Ever since I turned it on, I haven't got a single spam, and I have so few false positive that I just tell it to trash the mail it marks as spam). If I may suggest two things : - Use spamassassin through its daemon (spamd), it's faster. - You should consider dropping procmail in favour of courier-maildrop, since you seem to be using courier-imap. I find it more flexible and better integrated with the imap server. -- Jonathan (Note : that is just a suggestion, I am not looking to start a flamewar or anything. I have used procmail for years and was very happy with it !) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
