Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
El 16/06/16 a las 16:33, Rich Freeman escribió: > FWIW - the subject of this thread suggests that this is some kind of > "official" Gentoo thing. As far as I can tell somebody took it upon > themselves to make this available for Gentoo, but it is not in any way > endorsed by the distro. Of course, if somebody wanted to package it > up and maintain it we probably wouldn't have any issues with having > the package manager in the repository. After all have other binary > distro package managers in there. That doesn't mean that Gentoo is > doing anything to ensure that whatever random repository you point it > at is up to date, any more than if you emerge debootstrap. The truth is that there is not even overlay system to install Gentoo. What if there is a ebuild, built by a developer Canonical for use in Gentoo, and I can hardly call that "official support" and "Gentoo community support". -- Dios en su cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
El 16/06/16 a las 13:32, Tom H escribió: > > When I first saw this, I thought "strange, maybe if Gentoo develops an > 'esnap' in order to build the container-package locally" but then I > remembered that we have docker and lxc/lxd, so why not another method? > That is possible, but the goal is to serve Snap container for applications that can be downloaded and used by the user, down a single binary that will have all the dependencies in that binary. Docker and LXC obviously can do this, but its scope and possibilities are much larger and are not addressed within the scope of normal user of a PC. > When Flatpak's ready, someone'll make it available and/or package it. Flatpak is ready for use now. > > [AFAIK, Flatpak's for GUI apps accessed via Gnome Software so it's not > quite a Snap competitor.] > Flatpak and Snap, have GUI and command-line. In addition, Flatpak packages weigh less than their counterparts Snap, and right now several free software projects officially support it, including LibreOffice. -- Dios en su cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
El 16/06/16 a las 11:27, James escribió: > One word SECURITY? Trust but verify does come to mind. > The snaps come to "replace" a lack of security that is in Linux, in addition to facilitating the installation of all applications from the user-space without root privileges. > > Is their a version that works on gentoo-hardened? > Hardened or not ... it's matter? What I see here is the "beloved" Mark talking about a Snap support in Gentoo, and there Gentoo developers working to make it official. It's true? I don't know. > Were are all the security gurus on at on snaps? Do snaps require systemd > or are they PID-1 agnostic? > Supposedly it is agnostic to PID, asking only have some active features in the kernel and SELinux or AppArmor using. Currently, none of the mentioned MACs work as expected with Snap, even in the Ubuntu itself. -- Dios en su cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
El 16/06/16 a las 12:36, Mick escribió: > > Keylogger in a snap anyone? > It is possible, who knows. Especially when the server-side is proprietary . -- Dios en su cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
[gentoo-user] Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?
Hi everybody! The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/goodbye-apt-and-yum-ubuntus-snap-apps-are-coming-to-distros-everywhere/ "Snaps now work natively on Arch, Debian, Fedora, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Unity, and Xubuntu," Canonical's announcement says. "They are currently being validated on CentOS, Elementary, Gentoo, Mint, OpenSUSE, OpenWrt and RHEL, and are easy to enable on other Linux distributions." (Ubuntu will continue to support deb packages, but developers can choose to package applications as snaps instead of or in addition to debs.)" Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages? Why not Flatpak? Thank you very much for your responses! Bye! :) -- Dios en su cielo, todo bien en la Tierra
