Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 18:49 +0200, Ward Poelmans wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 18:40, M Daniel R M4.maga...@gmail.com wrote: firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the process from console. Have you tried running firefox with all your extensions and plugins disabled? Which version of firefox are you running and what use flags do you use? Ward Yes, after your suggestion ;-) I had those extensions, until today: babelfish, boost for facebook, foxlingo, suggestmeyes. They are not on my firefox web browser any more. Then I tried once again, and the problem continued there, exactly the same. Well, I didn't want to touch the next, but.. Now I just have two more extensions left, the most used for me: pdf download, and clickweather. I just disabled them. Tried again several tabs and now... it's OK. Everything seems to be running pretty stably. Mozilla Firefox Version: 3.0.11 USE flags I use are pasted here on my first mail, man. Thank you very much, the problem seems to be located. Now I ask to myself whether there is anything I could do in order to have enabled those two extensions, working and without leave stability on firefox, or maybe this is, at the moment, not possible. Daniel Rguez. Magarzo
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 19:09 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I am not into konqueror these days, so no idea about that. As for firefox, most problems comes from corrupted profiles, silly extensions, etc. So, first I would try using a clean profile, the easiest way to do that is to create a new user to test with. If the problem goes away then you know that there's something wrong in your profile, try disabling every extension and plugin before doing anything else. Yes, as I said just before, extensions (but not silly..) were the problem; not much convincing to me this solution, but facts were clear: after removing or disabling them, firefox run smoothly again. BTW, sorry but I didn't understood what you meant when saying about profile, (I'm not much got into tech issues, sorry :-) Daniel R. Magarzo
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problems with the web browsers
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 20:16 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/16/2009 07:40 PM, M Daniel R M wrote: firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the process from console. I don't know, either, why firefox gets to this status; preferences are as usual, etc. Maybe the problem roots from the flags when compiling, but I haven't received any message from the system, IIRC... Is there any flag wrong on my system? I remember Firefox was biting me with this too at some time. The solution for me was to go to Edit-Preferences, and in the Security tab uncheck the Block reported attack sites and Block reported web forgeries checkboxes. The issue was that those features use sqlite to update internal databases of thousands of malware sites, and updates to these lists were bringing my CPU to its knees. So try that and see if it helps. Originally they both were checked. Then, unchecked and re-cheched again, it seems that there were no difference here. Disabling add-ons on firefox seems to have been the provisional solution. CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} Btw, if you're on a Core2 and a recent GCC, you might want to change that to -march=core2 or -march=native. Yes, I'm on a Core2, a laptop (Thinkpad T61), here you are a cat over cpuinfo: proc # cat cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz stepping: 6 cpu MHz : 2101.000 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm ida tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips: 4189.76 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz stepping: 6 cpu MHz : 2100.000 cache size : 3072 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 1 initial apicid : 1 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm ida tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority bogomips: 4189.28 clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: -- Here you are the GCC version: proc # gcc --version gcc (Gentoo 4.3.2-r3 p1.6, pie-10.1.5) 4.3.2 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. - I already knew about that possibility indeed; Actually, I got to have it some time ago (months) here, on this unit, when I made my first install of Gentoo (bad end then :-)) Now, I've just leaved it as is 'cause of laziness, just laziness, man. Apart from that, I'm not much sure there would be any significant difference..., would be it? Thanks a lot. Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 20:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 18:40:12 M Daniel R M wrote: Konqueror: very stable indeed, but it couldn't be at another way since it's a key piece of the KDE environment... The problem comes when I want to fill in forms (you know... web pages for registering, etc.). It stops many times without giving us an alert message or some kind of explanation, so you have to deduce that the problem is not from the website, but the browser instead. I don't know whether problems come from java or whatever..., I've checked my konqueror preferences and I'd bet they are all OK.. javascript support in konqueror sucks. I always thought that here it isn't my fault (that is, incomplete installs and so on..) For everything else it's actually OK. One of these days it will use webkit as the backend and then things might improve. Until then, I'm afraid you are SOL. ASAP, please! I think konqueror lacks of such abilities, and they are practically essential nowadays, but apart from that..., other capabilities are fine IMHO (speed, stability, ...). Ops! In addition, I realize now that sometimes konqueror renders (shows) some webpages badly (you know, things placed in the frame where they shouldn't, etc.) Regards, Daniel R. Magarzo
[gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
Hello list, Sadly, I'm pretty much disappointed with both web browser installed on my system: konqueror and firefox. Konqueror: very stable indeed, but it couldn't be at another way since it's a key piece of the KDE environment... The problem comes when I want to fill in forms (you know... web pages for registering, etc.). It stops many times without giving us an alert message or some kind of explanation, so you have to deduce that the problem is not from the website, but the browser instead. I don't know whether problems come from java or whatever..., I've checked my konqueror preferences and I'd bet they are all OK.. firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the process from console. I don't know, either, why firefox gets to this status; preferences are as usual, etc. Maybe the problem roots from the flags when compiling, but I haven't received any message from the system, IIRC... Is there any flag wrong on my system? This is my /etc/conf.d: ~ # more /etc/make.conf # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically # built this stage. # Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example. CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} # WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly. # Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing. CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu ## # These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the # profile used for building. USE=symlink mmx sse sse2 sse3 alsa cdr dvdr qt3 qt4 kde -gnome acpi wifi usb unicode objc bash-completion ## MAKEOPTS=-j3 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/gentoo/ http://gentoo.lagis.a t/ ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/gentoo/ ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aac hen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirro r/ ftp://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/gentoo-mirror/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/p ub/mirrors/gentoo ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo ftp://ftp.join.un i-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo ftp://ftp.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mir rors/gentoo ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo http:/ /mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de /pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ http:// gentoo.mneisen.org/ http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/gentoo/ ftp://ftp .spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/gentoo/ http://ftp.udc.es/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.udc .es/gentoo/ http://gentoo.virginmedia.com/ ftp://gentoo.virginmedia.com/sites/ge ntoo SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage ## INPUT_DEVICES=evdev VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia vesa ### FEATURES=ccache parallel-fetch userfetch CCACHESIZE=2G ### LINGUAS=en es ## Please, I'd like to have your comments and to solve the problem once and forever. Thanks in advance, Daniel R. Magarzo