Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who needs the grief of listening to that crap from some a**hole who LEFT the project. Give me a break. That would be two a**holes in that discussion. If you read it you would know that may devs tried to correct drobbins but that he couldn't accept the fact that he wasn't the chief anymore and that things have changed since he left. I'm not sure that the best guy to run Gentoo is a guy who wants to be THE chief and not one of the community. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who needs the grief of listening to that crap from some a**hole who LEFT the project. Give me a break. That would be two a**holes in that discussion. If you read it you would know that may devs tried to correct drobbins but that he couldn't accept the fact that he wasn't the chief anymore and that things have changed since he left. I'm not sure that the best guy to run Gentoo is a guy who wants to be THE chief and not one of the community. First D Robbins created Gentoo. Yeah so? He created Gentoo and then moved on. Thus leaving in the same sense or more since he didn't keep contributing, as the other dev did. Second what part of ex-dev don't you understand. Point being? If you are an ex-dev you shouldn't even be in the discussion period. As both of them where. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
On Sunday 13 January 2008 17.31.20 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who needs the grief of listening to that crap from some a**hole who LEFT the project. Give me a break. That would be two a**holes in that discussion. If you read it you would know that may devs tried to correct drobbins but that he couldn't accept the fact that he wasn't the chief anymore and that things have changed since he left. I'm not sure that the best guy to run Gentoo is a guy who wants to be THE chief and not one of the community. First D Robbins created Gentoo. Yeah so? He created Gentoo and then moved on. Thus leaving in the same sense or more since he didn't keep contributing, as the other dev did. Second what part of ex-dev don't you understand. Point being? If you are an ex-dev you shouldn't even be in the discussion period. As both of them where. Evidently you are new to Gentoo. D Robbins was broke after starting Gentoo and working on it day and night and trying to support a family he needed money. You can't live on nothing. Get it now? He was the dev that created Gentoo not just another dev. Back then yes. (and no I'm not new to Gentoo, been using it for years and been an official part of since about 3/4 of a year) Ciaran is a smart dev, but he was only a dev. He quit of his own volition due to the disagreement with other devs as to the direction of Portage. Fine, but don't come back on gentoo-dev and start a bunch of sh**. If you don't like the way things are done start your own distro! Don't come back and crap all over everyone's hard work. About Ciarans people skills I agree they are none to slim, but the points he makes are valid and since this is an open project he has every right to voice his opinion. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor ed excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me. That said I did find paludis a bit hard to use but that might have been because it was quite some timeago I tried it. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with emerge gnupg
On Sunday 16 December 2007 01.17.42 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:43 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: - why didn't portage replace the old version itself? That's generally part of the update process. GnuPG is slotted, so 1.* and 2.* can be installed simultaneously. No. Both ver 1.4* and ver 2.* use slot 0, but ver 1.9* use slot 1.9, for more info see -dev (don't have access to the thread right now) -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Perl module problem
The problem was that libperl had a reference to /usr/lib/perl5/.../i486-linux/ when it should be /usr/lib/perl5/.../i686-linux/. So a reemerge of libperl later the problem is gone. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Perl module problem
On Sunday 07 October 2007 20.21.57 Moshe Kamensky wrote: Hi, Does /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Scalar/Util.pm exist? What is the output of perl -le 'print foreach @INC' $ perl -le 'print foreach @INC' /etc/perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . Same on both machines. By the way, I run urxvt fine with the Scalar::Util that comes with perl. do you have something like /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/List/Util/Util.so /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so Same on both machines (except that i686 == x86_64 on the working one). Moshe * Naga Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/10/07 16:06]: Hi, I have two machines that uses x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-8.3. One is ~amd64 and one is ~x86, both have the same version of perl and perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils. One can use the perl extensions (~amd64 one) and one gives this error on startup: urxvt: perl hook 0 evaluation error: Undefined subroutine Scalar::Util::weaken called at /usr/lib/urxvt/urxvt.pm line 1191 nonworking: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/List/Util.pm working: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/List/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/XSLoader.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so This indicates that the working uses perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils but the nonworking uses dev-lang/perl, but why? Does anyone have an idea as to how I can debug this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Perl module problem
Hi, I have two machines that uses x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-8.3. One is ~amd64 and one is ~x86, both have the same version of perl and perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils. One can use the perl extensions (~amd64 one) and one gives this error on startup: urxvt: perl hook 0 evaluation error: Undefined subroutine Scalar::Util::weaken called at /usr/lib/urxvt/urxvt.pm line 1191 nonworking: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/List/Util.pm working: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/List/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/XSLoader.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so This indicates that the working uses perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils but the nonworking uses dev-lang/perl, but why? Does anyone have an idea as to how I can debug this? -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR : sys-libs/db-4.5.20_p2 failed - econf failed
On Friday 14 September 2007 09.21.16 Jean-Philippe Caruana wrote: hi, I still have problems nuilding my box. I did a emerge -uavDN world and it failed at sys-libs/db : [...] what can I do ? From the build log: checking if /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/javac works... configure: error: The Java compiler /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/javac failed (see config.log, check the CLASSPATH?) !!! Please attach the following file when filing a report to bugs.gentoo.org: !!! /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/db-4.5.20_p2/work/db-4.5.20/build_unix/config.log Does this file contain some information? -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong version magic with alsa_modules
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 18.39.22 Elyahou ITTAH wrote: I have recompiled all the modules and i have the same errors... _and_ the kernel? If so I have no more ideas. 2007/8/14, Naga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 14 August 2007 01:59:22 Elyahou ITTAH wrote: [...] snd_hda_intel: version magic '2.6.22-gentoo-r2 SMP mod_unload PENTIUMIII should be '2.6.22-gentoo-r2 SMP mod_unload CORE2 ' All kernel modules and the kernel must be compiled with the same version of the compiler and with the same settings. Recompile the kernel and the module using the same toolchain and options. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On Sunday 12 August 2007 18.50.24 Dale wrote: I copied the command from what I was given by portage. I did the emerge in Konsole and I used the copy and paste function to enter that command. It appears that something is different between our systems or something. Weird again. Not at all you did the copy/paste from gettext not from expat. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
On Sunday 12 August 2007 20.09.33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 10:42:36AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: And another problem I had was with svn unable to find libexpat.so.0. emerging expat and subversion didn't help, so the only solution I could find was to to create an extra symlink for this. Henk. On my system the revdep-rebuild step rebuilt subversion. I wonder why that didn't work for you? I wondered too, so I emerged svn once more, but as soon as I typed svn I received the same error again. Some of the libs that subversion uses, like apr-util or neon? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-3.3.6 and the pentium-m flag
On Saturday 09 June 2007 18.48.34 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 09 June 2007 18:39:29 Randy Barlow wrote: I am trying to install virtualbox to play with it (any other non-masked virtualization tools besides Xen and qemu that you might recommend me trying out?) and it wants to pull in gcc-3.3.6. That's fine, but I am using the -march=pentium-m flag on my laptop and that wasn't a valid flag in the days of gcc-3.3.6 so the build fails. Is there something similar to /etc/portage/package.use where I can specify different CFLAGS for this particular ebuild? Other suggestions? [2 good sugestions] or emerge libstdc++-v3 -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[OT] Jakub back? (was: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs])
On Thursday 17 May 2007 00.17.29 Neil Bothwick wrote: Jakub is no longer a bug-wrangler, or a dev, he retired last month. Did he really? He's still jakub on bugzilla, -dev IRC. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] should dual-core Pentium Processor Extreme Edition be recognized as two processors or one?
On Saturday 12 May 2007 18.03.07 Denis wrote: I'm setting up a fresh Gentoo box, which is based on a Pentium Processor Extreme Edition 840 (Smithfield = 2 Prescott cores) mounted on an Intel D955XBK board - it's that expensive dual-core deal with hyperthreading enabled. I am still working on the basic set-up for Gentoo, such as customizing USE flags, and haven't set up X or any desktops yet. I configured and compiled the latest gentoo-sources kernel - 2.6.20-gentoo-r8, and booted from it. Seems to run with no error messages or warnings. But when I load top, it only lists stats about one processor. Here top only sees one cpu, but if I use htop or look at /proc/couinfo I have two, might be an option to top? -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16.26.07 David Harel wrote: Looking in: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Code Listing 2.2 I have to do emerge -eav system and emerge -eav world. Isn't that rebuilding the entire system? First. please don't use html and top posting. Second, as stated just above that passage, it is not nessecary but recommended. You must however follow listing 2.1 and I would recomend keeping the old gcc installed untill all packages have been upgraded/reemerged just in case. -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 17.06.51 David Harel wrote: Naga Toro wrote: Second, as stated just above that passage, it is not nessecary but recommended. Here is a quotation from the doc: To be completely safe that your system is in a sane state, you must rebuild the toolchain and then world to make use of the new compiler. (Now how do I make the word MUST above underlined and bold?) ;-) _underline_ *bold* usualy workes fine :) But still atleast I interpret that as should work without, but better safe then sorry. But then later in the same doc it says: If you upgrade from gcc 3.3 to 4.1, do not use the method based on revdep-rebuild, but do a complete system rebuild. so the answer to your question would be either stay with 3.3.6 and rebuild those packages that you emerged with 4.1.1 or upgrade to 4.1.1 and rebuild system + world (ccache is highly recomended). -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
