Re: [gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources
Michael responded to me off list, and wrote: On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:08:49AM -0500, Michael wrote in <675d0538-292f-40de-95c0-446641611...@gmail.com>: I assume you have a script in /etc/portage/env/sys-kernel to build the kernel during normal emerge, this is getting stuck because genkernel is calling another emerge instance and the hook is holding a lock. genkernel needs to be called with --no-module-rebuild in that case, then you need to manually call emerge @module-rebuild I tried "genkernel --no-module-rebuild --kernel-config=/etc/kernels/kernel-config-6.1.19-gentoo-x86_64 all" and this did result in a succesful compilation. Doing an emerge afterwards finished emerging the last four remaining packages. Will see if this fixes it going forward as well! Thank you all for the suggestions!
[gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources
Hi all, I've tried googling and didn't get very far so am afraid this might not be a common thing... Since a number of months, emerge hangs when doing a upgrade as soon as it gets to the package gentoo-sources: Installing (23 of 27) sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.1.67::gentoo * If you are upgrading from a previous kernel, you may be interested * in the following document: * - General upgrade guide: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade * For more info on this patchset, and how to report problems, see: * https://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches WARNING: Will unset existing variable 'TMPDIR' to avoid clashing with genkernel config ... WARNING: Will unset existing variable 'CHOST' to avoid clashing with genkernel config ... * Gentoo Linux Genkernel; Version 4.3.6 * Using genkernel configuration from '/etc/genkernel.conf' ... * Running with options: --kernel-config=/etc/kernels/kernel-config-6.1.19-gentoo-x86_64 all * Working with Linux kernel 6.1.67-gentoo for x86_64 * Using kernel config file '/etc/kernels/kernel-config-6.1.19-gentoo-x86_64' ... * * Note: The version above is subject to change (depends on config and status of kernel sources). * kernel: >> Initializing ... * >> Running 'make mrproper' ... * >> Running 'make oldconfig' ... * >> Kernel version has changed (probably due to config change) since genkernel start: *We are now building Linux kernel 6.1.67-gentoo-x86_64 for x86_64 ... * >> Compiling 6.1.67-gentoo-x86_64 bzImage ... * >> Compiling 6.1.67-gentoo-x86_64 modules ... * >> Installing 6.1.67-gentoo-x86_64 modules (and stripping) ... * >> Generating module dependency data ... * >> Compiling out-of-tree module(s) ... It is consistent every time and at the same point. It has been stuck there for 24 hours now. Pressing Ctrl-C takes me back to the command line with no error indication. Computer load is low, and this is the process tree for emerge: root 19590 0.0 0.0 7916 4264 pts/5S09:15 0:00 | \_ bash root 19936 0.6 1.9 322620 314152 pts/5 SN+ 09:16 1:17 | \_ /usr/bin/python3.11 /usr/lib/python-exec/python3.11/emerge --ask --update --newuse --de ep @world root 8996 0.1 1.8 324220 308860 pts/5 SN+ 09:40 0:20 | \_ /usr/bin/python3.11 /usr/lib/python-exec/python3.11/emerge --ask --update --newuse --deep @world root 9142 0.0 0.0 10892 7148 pts/5SN+ 09:40 0:00 | \_ bash /usr/lib/portage/python3.11/ebuild.sh postinst root 9153 0.0 0.0 10892 5992 pts/5SN+ 09:40 0:00 | \_ bash /usr/lib/portage/python3.11/ebuild.sh postinst root 9196 0.0 0.0 12724 9024 pts/5SN+ 09:40 0:00 | \_ /bin/bash /usr/bin/genkernel --kernel-config=/etc/kernels/kernel-config -6.1.19-gentoo-x86_64 all root 31236 0.0 0.4 71804 67416 pts/5SN+ 10:03 0:00 | \_ /usr/bin/python3.11 /usr/lib/python-exec/python3.11/emerge --ignore -default-opts --buildpkg=n --usepkg=n --quiet-build=y @module-rebuild Anyone has any ideas what might be wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt vs Fetchmail problem
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 04:31:56AM -0400, Philip wrote in : 210322 Remco Rijnders wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 03:22:26AM -0400, Philip wrote in I tried the Mutt 'G' command, which replied : "STLS: Mate, the command must be CAPA USER PASS QUIT ; no encryption". Of course, that wouldn't do, as it has to send out my password. So Fetchmail itself is working, but when Mutt calls it, something goes wrong. How does Mutt call Fetchmail ? That I'm not sure (smile). I think mutt doesn't call fetchmail. You have fetchmail set up to pull mail from your pop server (this works), and you have mutt set up to also pull mail from your pop server (this no longer works), using mutt's own built in POP support (http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#pop) which does not use your fetchmail configuration at all. You thus have two ways set up to access your mail. You might either do away with POP support in your mutt (as the mutt manual says: If you only need to fetch all messages to a local mailbox you should consider using a specialized program, such as fetchmail(1), getmail(1) or similar.), or make sure that mutt accesses the POP server the same way that fetchmail does. I think 'G' is not bound by default in Mutt. IIRC it is bound by default : at least, it's always worked before. Ah yes, your version of mutt has POP support built in, mine doesn't and as such 'G' is not bound on my system, my bad. How did you set it up in your .muttrc ? set pop_host="pop." set pop_pass="" set pop_user="" set pop_last Fetchmail is run as a user cron job. It was last emerged in 2020. The cron jobs are running as before, but nothing is downloaded. .muttrc hasn't been changed since 2020. It does appear that it is in fact more convenient to use Fetchmail directly. Instead of having to check several folders for new mail, I can issue the command (aliased as 'fm') when I decide to check mail & it actually tells me how many it's downloading, so if there's nothing, I don't have to do anything else. However, it wb helpful to find out what has gone wrong. It must be some pkg I updated since 210220. Either something changed in your system, or possibly on the ISP side of things. The "Mate, the command must be one of CAPA, USER, PASS or QUIT" error you get is returned by the server you are trying to retrieve your mail from, not mutt, and probably in relation to mutt sending the STLS command to (attempt to) start a secure session. You might want to see what mutt does different from what fetchmail does. Try adding ':995' (for port 995, used for encrypted POP3) to the pop_host setting? Of late, a lot of email providers (notably gmail, MS/outlook, and I think Yahoo too) require OAUTH support to access mail. Maybe this applies to you? See the interwebs for documentation on how to configure this for fetchmail and mutt respectively. I hope this helps you a little further. Kind regards, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt vs Fetchmail problem
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 03:22:26AM -0400, Philip wrote in : I tried the Mutt 'G' command, which replied : "STLS: Mate, the command must be CAPA USER PASS QUIT ; no encryption". Of course, that wouldn't do, as it has to send out my password. ... So Fetchmail itself is working, but when Mutt calls it, something goes wrong. Can anyone offer a suggestion what that might be ? How does mutt call fetchmail? I think 'G' is not bound by default in mutt, how did you set it up in your .muttrc? Remmy
Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 08:58:42AM +, Jorge wrote in : On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 8:53 AM Wols Lists wrote: https://lwn.net/Articles/842415/ Take a read, as it's mentioned in this article. Paywalled... :( Try this link: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/842415/5bc3e39b4d4f52fe/
Re: [gentoo-user] thunderbird - 78.6.0 disable line wrap
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 09:40:59PM -0700, thelma wrote in <4047b613-de75-3eeb-46cf-df4895577...@sys-concept.com>: I was using old version of thunderbird and line wrap was in "Option" menu; but in new version "line wrap On/Off" disappeared. How to disable line wrap? They make this really impossible to find... Anyways, go to the menu Edit --> Preferences, then scroll down go to the bottom option in the window that shows "Config Editor...". Click to accept the risk and void your warranty. In the search bar, enter "wrap". I think the settings you'll want are mail.wrap_long_lines and/or plain_text.wrap_long_lines. Double click to change the values. The changed settings should take effect immediately. I hope this helps. Kind regards, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] apache blocking access based country
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:18:49PM -0700, thelma wrote in <94662af9-b159-65ca-371d-1521ab4fa...@sys-concept.com>: Steve, suggested a good alternative database of IP's with two letter country beside them. It can be sorted by country in a spreadsheet. This 16MB file would seem like an ideal solution; but checking is it is missing 212.114.17 number I've checked earlier from the other source. The number 212.114.16 correctly identified as "FR" (France). deny from 212.114.16.0/24 deny from 212.114.17.0/24 The dbip-country-lite-2020-12.csv lists: 212.114.10.0212.114.15.255 RU 212.114.16.0212.114.31.255 FR 212.114.32.0212.114.49.39 DE Just wanted to point out that "212.114.17.0/24" is included in the "212.114.16.0 212.114.31.255 FR" entry you show, so it doesn't seem to be missing at all. For reasons of efficiency, it is preferable to have blocks listed that are bigger than /24's if they roll up to bigger blocks per country.
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2.4 can not access server subdirectory
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 08:10:07AM -0600, thelma wrote in <474d741a-a72d-e3ff-f771-5c7ecd72c...@sys-concept.com>: On 10/29/2020 06:21 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:36:12PM -0600, thelma wrote in <7b3d3416-77b0-02eb-ad05-f717fdf0b...@sys-concept.com>: After installing apache 2.4 I can not access server subdirectory: server/admin/index.html Forbiden You don't have permission to access /admin/index.html on this server I can access index.html in a directory below /admin (server/index.html) but not the server/admin/index.html That seems to suggest that either the permissions or ownership of admin/index.html are different from admin/server/index.html, or that there is a difference of that kind between the directories admin/ and admin/server. Are they? Here are the permissions: index on server/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root19078 Jan 14 2011 index.php index on server/admin/ drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Oct 28 22:08 admin -rwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 428 Oct 28 16:44 index.html It works on Apache 2.2 but not Apache 2.4 Hi Thelma, Please help us help you a little better. As I understand it, you have two index.html files, but you show only one above. What role does index.php have in all this? I am also unclear if your set up is server/admin or admin/server, as you used both in your first message. So, all in all, I am a little confused as to what your exact problem is and what the exact permissions on all the directories and index.html files involved are. Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2.4 can not access server subdirectory
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:36:12PM -0600, thelma wrote in <7b3d3416-77b0-02eb-ad05-f717fdf0b...@sys-concept.com>: After installing apache 2.4 I can not access server subdirectory: server/admin/index.html Forbiden You don't have permission to access /admin/index.html on this server I can access index.html in a directory below /admin (server/index.html) but not the server/admin/index.html That seems to suggest that either the permissions or ownership of admin/index.html are different from admin/server/index.html, or that there is a difference of that kind between the directories admin/ and admin/server. Are they?
Re: [gentoo-user] "mysql_connect() or mysql_query()" deprecated
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 05:24:26PM -0600, thelma wrote in : The function in newer php "mysql_connect() or mysql_query()" were removed but I don't know starting from which version? I'm running PHP Version 5.6.33-pl0-gentoo and these function work. But I upgraded one of my system to php-5.6.40 and I'm getting an error: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/catalog/admin/includes/functions/database.php on line 19 Hi Thelma, I think mysql support was not removed between the two versions you mention. The PHP website says "This extension was deprecated in PHP 5.5.0, and it was removed in PHP 7.0.0.", which would be a logical point to do this. Could it be that your "use" flags for PHP changed? Make sure to emerge PHP with the mysql use flag to build with mysql database support. I hope this helps. Kind regards, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] .fetchmailrc syntax error
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:54:13AM +, Thomas wrote in <20201015005421.3ae0be0...@pigeon.gentoo.org>: I didn't know getmail was deprecated, but haven't used getmail in a long time. Maybe deprecated because of using Python 2.x which is deprecated? Or did they/could they port to Python 3.x? Hi Thomas, Getmail has been removed from Gentoo because it was 2.x only indeed. See https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/e6e2aad22bc828eb877ffa06219bb8c2 Upstream has not made support for Python 3.* a priority and as such getmail has been forked into a version which does work with Python 3.*, see http://www.getmail6.org/ I use mpop and msmtp but am considering other possibilities including mutt. I want to keep email in a format that does not limit use to one particular application. fetchmail and getmail are MDA's (Mail Delivery Agent), while mutt is a MUA (Mail User Agent). While there is some overlap in functionality, they do serve different roles. mutt can work fine with either fetchmail or getmail and is happy to work with both mbox format mail files as well as maildir's. BTW, you, or the MUA you currently use, somehow managed to make your message respond to a different message than the one which you are quoting, which makes your message show up on the incorrect thread for many clients.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] .fetchmailrc syntax error
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 07:03:01PM -0400, Walter wrote in <20201014230301.ga25...@waltdnes.org>: With getmail having been deprecated, I can't pull it in on my fresh install, so I *HAVE TO* go with fetchmail. Hi Walter, I don't have an answer to your fetchmail problem but would like to point out that work is being done to get a python 3 compatible version of checkmail in gentoo. See https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/17239 for this. It has not yet been merged into gentoo official, but I use this package myself without issue. Hopefully in the near future this package will become part of gentoo. Till then, I can help you to install this package/ebuild on your system if needed. Regards, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Caveman wrote in <2gbde2AzVUH4P9HuGPvBvJpZBjaeFBqUfOPfrojvSXcRQgqYcNuLDa0BZbdtS1QrvKymDpPLozphS0JtKDgRXX4WE1rh439hq_VnseMCJZo=@protonmail.com>: yes. smtp is nasty, and also redundant. How is it redundant? makes me wonder if i should just create me a hidden tor service that is just a normal website, and give its url to people (instead of email) who want to message me by telling them ``submit your messages to me''. then, verify messages by mailing their supplied email a confirmation message. Ah, the "Don't spam us, we'll spam you approach?"
Re: [gentoo-user] What is faster: amd64 or x86?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 07:46:36PM -0400, Jack wrote in <46fdde47-4437-5aa4-926d-e42aaed8e...@users.sourceforge.net>: On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Никита Степанов wrote: What is faster: amd64 or x86? Nikita, what are you really asking about? Or, are you just looking to stir the pot? I think the intended or underlying question was: Should I use the x86 or amd64 boot media to install Gentoo on my system? And I think the appropiate answer almost always is amd64 if the system supports it. I can see exceptions on severely memory constrained systems or if you need to mainly run software that can only run in 32 bit, but both seem rather uncommon to me.
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail server
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 01:48:05PM +0100, antlists wrote in : I don't think an ISP is supposed to allocate less ... I think your original message was open for multiple interpretations, or at least I read it as you saying there are 32 bit addresses the ISP allocates from. I now see the alternate one and the one you probably intended that there is 32 bits worth of /64's to hand out to customers. I'm sorry for misunderstanding at first. Yes, a mimimum of /64 is what is recommended (and needed to make stateless auto configuration work on the customers end). Whether the /64 you get allocated is dynamic or static, can still depend on the ISP's practises and business model. Cheers, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail server
Point is though, with IPv6 addresses are no longer a scarce commodity. The cost to an ISP to give you one IPv6 address (/128) is just the same as given you enough room for your own IPv4 internet (/64). Oops, brain freeze. A /64 gives you enough room for an IPv4 internet of IPv4 networks as IPv4 is just 32 bits.
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail server
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:05:46AM +0100, antlists wrote in : From what little I understand, IPv6 *enforces* CIDR. So, of the 64 network bits, maybe the first 16 bits are allocated to each high level allocator eg RIPE, ARIN etc. An ISP will then be allocated the next 16 bits, giving them a 32-bit address space to allocate to their customers - each ISP will have an address space the size of IPv4?! Each customer is then given one of these 64-bit address spaces for their local network. So routing tables suddenly become extremely simple - eactly the way IPv4 was intended to be. An IPv6 address is 128 bits in length. Usually an ISP allocates 64 bits to a single customer, allowing the systems on/behind that connection to automatically assign themselves an address based on their MAC address for example. Note that also allocations bigger than 64 bits are common so customers get 70 or 76 bits to use and can use multiple subnets on their home/business networks. Point is though, with IPv6 addresses are no longer a scarce commodity. The cost to an ISP to give you one IPv6 address (/128) is just the same as given you enough room for your own IPv4 internet (/64). Whether they make them static or dynamic depends on their policy and what their customers are willing to put up with / pay for.
Re: [gentoo-user] To do list or bug tracker? Project management?
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 05:56:10PM +0200, Stroller wrote in : Does anyone have any recommendations for a task management app, please? I bought a boat a year ago, and can't keep a track of all the work that needs doing and the things that need fixing. I took a look at To Do apps for my Mac a while back but they all seemed to focus more on the formatting of the list (what font to use and what kind of bullet points), rather than the actual tasks. I'd like something that tracks dependencies - that I need to order this part before I can complete that task, to divide jobs that can be completed now from those that need something else doing first. Hi Stroller, I myself am a fan/user of taskwarrior, which you can find in package app-misc/task . It is a stand alone command line application and can track dependencies and even help you prioritise your tasks. Regards, Remco
Re: [gentoo-user] Joining PDF files together.
On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 01:31:36PM +, Alan wrote in <20200709133136.GA4852@ACM>: Hello, Gentoo. I've just scanned in a two-page document using sane, and it's given me as output two separate files. I would like to join these together into a single document. Would somebody please suggest to me an appropriate package to do this with. I have no experience with either myself, but I think you can use either pdftk, or the pdfunite command in the poppler package.
