Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php + apache

2006-04-01 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi James,

On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 19:46 +, James wrote:
 I've unmerged everthing the package used, and delete any remaining files.
 Complete fresh installation in underway. If that does not fix it, I'll post
 again

A re-installation is unlikely to make any difference.  This isn't
Windows :)

When you get this problem, first of all make sure that you've restarted
Apache since adding the -D PHP4 line in /etc/conf.d/apache2.  Then make
absolutely sure that you've emptied your browser's cache.

That fixes this problem for most people.  If you still have a problem,
please come by and drop in #gentoo-php or #gentoo-apache on IRC.

Best regards,
Stu
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RE: [gentoo-web-user] Java Script Libraries

2006-02-23 Thread Stuart Herbert
 While I agree that it is certainly easier to keep the packages as
 UPSTREAM bundles them, I'm not convinced that this is always a good
 idea. If the effort is small, I'd rather patch the package to use the
 standard libraries and send the patch upstream. Not only because it's
 simply bad programming style but also because it's easier to handle
 security this way. 

Best of luck with that ... but don't be surprised if UPSTREAM do not
adopt these patches.  It's not always bad programming style - it's often
the only pragmatic thing to do.

UPSTREAM bundle libraries because bitter experience (with poor ISP and
shared hosting solutions) has taught the PHP community that if you need
a third-party library and you don't bundle it, chances are that the
third-party library won't be available.

(The PHP and PEAR community also have to accept a lot of the blame for
this state of affairs, by failing to provide an equivalent to CPAN from
day one).

Best regards,
Stu

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RE: [gentoo-web-user] Java Script Libraries

2006-02-23 Thread Stuart Herbert
 But it is not very hard to avoid to hardwire these libs in your
 webapp :) This is the only thing I dislike.

Mmm ... you'd be surprised, I think, about just how hard it actually is
for PHP apps (and how expensive it is too).

Another problem to consider is versioning of any shared libraries of
code.  How do you plan to address that, in a non-Gentoo-specific way?

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Stu

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RE: [gentoo-web-user] Java Script Libraries

2006-02-23 Thread Stuart Herbert
 Thanks for making me aware of the issue. So let's hope for PHP5...

No problem.  I wish it was an idea we could implement.  Alas, it's
something that none of the scripting languages handle well.  Even Ruby
hasn't learned from the past mistakes in this area.

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RE: [gentoo-web-user] Java Script Libraries

2006-02-23 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hrm ... all the code I've seen uses:

require_gem package-name

with no sign of version requirements passed around.  How does Gems
handle the versioning in the background?

Best regards,
Stu

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Stuart Herbert wrote:
 Thanks for making me aware of the issue. So let's hope for PHP5...
 

 No problem.  I wish it was an idea we could implement.  Alas, it's
 something that none of the scripting languages handle well.  Even Ruby
 hasn't learned from the past mistakes in this area.
   
Ruby apps that are Gems aware handle this flawlessly.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache configuration files

2005-11-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:28 -0500, James Colby wrote:
 All - 
 
 If I understand correctly the only configuration file is
 now /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, is this correct?  

Yes.

 Would it be safe to delete the configuration files located in
 the /etc/apache2/conf directory?

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Developmnet Environment for PHP and PERL

2005-11-08 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi,

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 10:33 -0800, Michael Shaw wrote:
 What editor do people use for PHP and Perl development.  I'm looking for 
 something with syntax highlighting and such, so that rules ut vi or gedit.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike

I used the php-mode for emacs when I co-wrote the Zend Certification
Study Guide.  Unlike vim, emacs actually parses and understands the code
it's editing; this makes the syntax highlighting and indentation support
much more flexible and accurate.  I'd go as far as saying that the
auto-indentation support for php-mode for emacs is by far the best I've
worked with to date.

Today, I use the phpEclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.0.  I'm very happy with
this.  Performance is very good, the object browser works better than
php-mode for Emacs did, and it's very useful indeed to be able to search
all the files of a project from within the editor.  There's also the
advantage of being able to use other Eclipse plugins, such as support
for subversion.  phpEclipse is my main environment, which I use a good
8-10 hours in a working day.

I tried Zend Studio about 18 months ago, but didn't like it.  I found
the performance was too slow (hate using software that can't keep up
with my typing!), auto-indenting was inflexible (and I couldn't convince
Zeev why that mattered :(, there was no subversion support, and no
anti-aliased font support (tiring on the eyes when your main machine is
a laptop).  I haven't tried Zend Studio 4, and have no idea whether it
has improved in any of these areas or not.

Can't comment on a good environment for perl.  Last time I used perl
seriously was in '96.  Things have changed a lot since then.

Hope that helps,
Stu
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