Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers. On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote: В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras написал: On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote: В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann написал: [...] yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the instructions. I strictly follow the instructions. But emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99. Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated than it needs to be. You can find an easier method of applying the patch here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay. Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows. Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org? as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala. I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open source driver work fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers. On Freitag 13 November 2009, igwasm wrote: - Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ati drivers. On Freitag 13 November 2009, Igor wrote: В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 05:38:24 автор Nikos Chantziaras написал: On 11/12/2009 11:55 PM, Igor wrote: В сообщении от Пятница 13 ноября 2009 00:30:35 автор Volker Armin Hemmann написал: [...] yeah, unpacking in /usr/portage is completly wrong. Just follow the instructions. I strictly follow the instructions. But emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3.901-r99. Volker's instructions work, but the overlay method is more complicated than it needs to be. You can find an easier method of applying the patch here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-794699.html This has the benefit that it works with all versions of X.Org and not just with 1.6.3 and you don't need a custom ebuild in your local overlay. Note that the patch we're talking about does *not* fix the CPU load on moving windows; ati-drivers are just too slow with this operation. It only fixes the resizing, maximizing and opening of new windows. Thank you. But i have question about this patch. Why ati driver is very slow in X.Org? Is it bug ati driver or X.Org? as I wrote before, 'they' changed X a long time ago for intel drivers and screwed over everybody else. So it is X fault - but X devs put the fingers in their ears, say it is everybody's else fault and sing lalala. I really don`t understand this. X have spec and all must use it. X don`t must use spec of intel. If X change spec then all must change drivers. Open source driver work fine. that has nothign to do with spec and how to use uninitialised memory. Hm. Is it undoc hack in X? Could i see this diff in code? I want use it in other distrs linux.
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote: Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. they, have but X is broken. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D they have. You are just using an old version. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc- highlight-.html What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please.
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote: On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 12 Nov, Igor wrote: Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 640x...@60hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 1024x...@85hz. Help me with settings. I don't know the HD3850 card. From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver? The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to include support for any products earlier than this. Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI Project or Utah-GLX project. Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 . Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast including googleearth. But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with xorg-server-1.7.1 Helmut. I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11- drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ? on the AMD homepage. Don't worry, your card is supported by catalyst 9.10, will be supported by 9.11 and probably be supported by 9.12 Just use the ati-drivers package - and patch xorg so it won't suck in 2d. What the patch? Give me more information, please.
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On 12 Nov, Igor wrote: On 2009 14:58:57, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 12 Nov, Igor wrote: Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D acceleration and after system startup videocard settings falls to 640x...@60hz. When i enter to display settings then settings returns to my 1024x...@85hz. Help me with settings. I don't know the HD3850 card. From the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ 2. Which ATI graphics cards can use this driver? The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports RADEON 8500 and later, as well as FireGL 8700 and later products. We do not currently plan to include support for any products earlier than this. Drivers for earlier products should already be available from the DRI Project or Utah-GLX project. Here, I have a Readon HD 3300 (onboard) and xorg-server-1.6.5 . Using the x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 graphics is really fast including googleearth. But, as noted earlier, these ati-drivers don't work with xorg-server-1.7.1 Helmut. I have xorg-server: 1.6.3.901-r2, and xorg-x11: 7.4-r1. Were is the x11- drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 FAQ? That should be OK. I don't know where to find the FAQ except after having x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10 installed. The you can find it under /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/driverfaq.html /usr/share/doc/ati-drivers-9.10/html/fglrx/linuxfaq.html Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany But i have very high cpu loads in 2D.
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote: What the patch? Give me more information, please. I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is there. But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted.
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote: - Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, Igor wrote: Hi. I installed gentoo. It`s very cool system. But i have problem with ati drivers for HD3850 agp. Proprietary driver have not 2D acceleration. they, have but X is broken. When i moved window then cpu loads on 95%. Open source driver have not 3D they have. You are just using an old version. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-789154-start-0-postdays-0-postorder- asc- highlight-.html What? Broken X? I use old version? Give me correct link, please. is correct link. Some time ago a 'fix' was added in X that makes 2d with ati-drivers (and nvidia drivers) painfully slow. That forum thread explains how to undo the damge. Just read the thread. Thank you much. Link correct. ^)
Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers.
- Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote: - Original Message - From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ati drivers. On Donnerstag 12 November 2009, igwasm wrote: What the patch? Give me more information, please. I have sent you a link to a forum thread in the other mail. Everything is there. But this link incorrect. Last part corrupted. wow, you can't even cope with a little newline 'problem'? just copy all the parts and remove the space, if there is one. voila, you are done. Very fun. ^)
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation gentoo problem.
- Original Message - From: John Moe john...@optushome.com.au To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Installation gentoo problem. Igor Spiridonov wrote: Hi. I tryed install gentoo 10.0 and there was: scanning for ata_piix and istallation stopped. If i switch off the sata disk then installation runs good. I try gentoo 10.1 now and stopped on: Scanning for ehci-hcd...usb core. I switch off usb on motherboard and installation continue. But then stopped on: Scanning for scsi_wait_scan. I have not scisi disks. My matherboard is Asus P4P800SE. What to do? If there's a module you don't need to load to install Gentoo, you can use the noload option as described in the handbook (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2) under Booting the Installation CD, as well as the options listing on the boot screen of the install CD. Just list the modules that are causing problems. John Moe Hm. noscsi? I don`t found this option.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Thanks. My problem seems in sata drive. If i remove it than installation runs good. - Original Message - From: Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Repeat. Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE. My problem is sata drive. If i remove it than installation runs good. But I want to install on sata drive. - Original Message - From: Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation problem.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo installation problem.
- Original Message - From: walt w41...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo installation problem. On 10/12/2009 08:43 AM, igwasm wrote: Repeat. Hi. I try to install DVD gentoo 10.0 and happens this: scanning for ata_piix and installation freeze. Motherboard Asus P4P800SE. My problem is sata drive. If i remove it than installation runs good. But I want to install on sata drive. gentoo 10.1 may work better than 10.0. Why not try it? I agree and will try 10.1. But this problem not only with gentoo. For example Suse 11.1 does not see the sata disk. The old distributions with the old sata drivers worked better.
