Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:44:09 -0700, Joseph wrote: Is there a way to view emerge notes without emerging package? I think in my case grub-0.97-r14 might have caused the problem. Read the ebuild, such messages are in einfo, ewarn or elog calls. -- Neil Bothwick A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. pgpDmQUSyoC4T.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On 01/31/15 21:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:53:41 -0700, Joseph wrote: I bootstrap from Gentoo CD and run grub-install in change-root. It fixed the problem, but it make me wonder why grub flipped on me. I run upgrade on three other boxes and everything went smooth. When I run upgrade on my main working server something happen and I can not figure it out. Now you're back in you can use qlop (or genlop) to see exactly what was updated, which may give a clue. -- Neil Bothwick Is there a way to view emerge notes without emerging package? I think in my case grub-0.97-r14 might have caused the problem. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On 01/31/15 21:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:53:41 -0700, Joseph wrote: I bootstrap from Gentoo CD and run grub-install in change-root. It fixed the problem, but it make me wonder why grub flipped on me. I run upgrade on three other boxes and everything went smooth. When I run upgrade on my main working server something happen and I can not figure it out. Now you're back in you can use qlop (or genlop) to see exactly what was updated, which may give a clue. -- Neil Bothwick Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself. SOLVED, When system emerged grub on another box this message showed up: ... Your boot partition was not mounted as /boot, but portage was able to mount it without additional intervention. Files will be installed there for grub to function correctly. WARN: postinst *** IMPORTANT NOTE: you must run grub and install the new version's stage1 to your MBR. Until you do, stage1 and stage2 will still be the old version, but later stages will be the new version, which could cause problems such as an unbootable system. This means you must use either grub-install or perform root/setup manually. After grub-0.97-r14 was installed user suppose to mount /boot and run: grub-install -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:40:37 -0700, Joseph wrote: Indeed grub was updated to grub-0.97-r14 genlop --list --date 3 days ago |grep grub Fri Jan 30 23:37:03 2015 sys-boot/grub-0.97-r14 Sat Jan 31 00:28:04 2015 sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r3 Though all my other system were updated as well, and it didn't cause any problem, nor did I run grub-install on any of them. So I don't think emerging/updating grub package would cause any problem unless one run grub-install Well, something caused the problem. Why do you have two versions of GRUB installed? GRUB2 used t install files to /boot/grub2 but ISTR this changed recently to /boot/grub, so you could have the two packages causing some kind of conflict. -- Neil Bothwick Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't. pgpd0jEb16iVj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On 01/31/15 19:54, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 19:32]: On 01/31/15 11:59, Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading stage2 and computer goes back reboot cycle, flash bios and the same massage is displayed. What went wrong during update? -- Joseph Hi Joseph, may be only a accidental coincidence... One thing I can think of is an empty bios coin cell. What is an empty BIOS coin cell? If this is not the cause, check whether the stage2 grub got deleted. How do I check if stage2 grub was deleted? Thanks for your help OP, if it were me, I'd chroot in, re-emerge grub, reinstall grub to the drive and then try to reboot. It doesn't seem to me that it is the OS itself or the kernel since it doesn't seem to get that far either. It's either a BIOS or a grub issue. I'm thinking along the same lines of Meino myself. Since chrooting in is a bit of a pain, I'd cover the whole field while in it. Don't forget, you can use the -K option to install from binaries if you save them. That may save a little bit of time. Hope that helps. I boot strap from a CD and /boot and grup.conf looks normal the way I install it. ... title Gentoo Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel-current root=/dev/sda3 vga=normal -- Joseph Hi, (please read this completly before doing anything) on the motherboard of your PC there is a Real Time Clock (RTC), which keeps time and date correct while your PC is turned off. This RTC needs power...only a little bit but more then nothing. For that there is a battery holder (oh damn, I fear, this term is german English... ;) on the motherboard, which can easily be identified, because it is about of the size of two Euro coin and an silvery coin is in there (visible from the outside). The similarity of the shape of a coin and and a coin cell gave the latter its name. BUT! Dont pull that out before you got a new one! Most often these cells are lithium batteries, which name starts with CR.. . On my motherboard there is a CR2032. But this should be mentioned in the manual of your mitherboard (and if that get lost you will find a pdf of that on the net somewhere). If you got a new cell, shutdown the computer, remove the mains plug from the back and switch the PC on again (no joke). This will empty any capacitor in the mains adapter and on the board. Touch the metal case of the PC (or if it is plastic touch the outer shell of an USB jack (**NOT** the inside), where you can easily reach it (in most cases on the back of the PC instead of the front). This will discharge any static electricity. Otherwise grub and the coin cell become a minor problem... ;) Check the manual how to remove the BIOS coin cell. Do it carefully but do it not excessive slow. Insert the new battery (remove it from the package before you remove the old cell) as described in the manual. If you are quick enough chance are given that all settings of the BIOS will survive the short no-power situation. Boot the PC again. If you didnt configure ntp for your PC and the time/date of the PC didn't survive the short power fail of the coin cell swap, set the date by hand, emerge net-misc/ntp, configure it and run it by hand to set time/date correctly. If the PC does not boot: Install grub as Dale mentioned. A missing stage2 bootloader may be the reason, why grub hangs while looking for it. If the problem went away after installing grub (and with it a new stage2 bootlaoder) the missing stage2 bootloader is the first candidate for being the reason of the problem. Good luck! Best regards, Meino SOLVED. I bootstrap from Gentoo CD and run grub-install in change-root. It fixed the problem, but it make me wonder why grub flipped on me. I run upgrade on three other boxes and everything went smooth. When I run upgrade on my main working server something happen and I can not figure it out. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:53:41 -0700, Joseph wrote: I bootstrap from Gentoo CD and run grub-install in change-root. It fixed the problem, but it make me wonder why grub flipped on me. I run upgrade on three other boxes and everything went smooth. When I run upgrade on my main working server something happen and I can not figure it out. Now you're back in you can use qlop (or genlop) to see exactly what was updated, which may give a clue. -- Neil Bothwick Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself. pgp7Z8PYYQdAD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
It sounded like a grub - grub2 issue. After running grub-install you probably fixed a broken fs referece ie / /boot etc... Fresh gentoo installs with manual kernel builds always feel like a warm sweater that just came out of the drier. Ah so clean :) N.
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Computer does not boot
On 01/31/15 21:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:53:41 -0700, Joseph wrote: I bootstrap from Gentoo CD and run grub-install in change-root. It fixed the problem, but it make me wonder why grub flipped on me. I run upgrade on three other boxes and everything went smooth. When I run upgrade on my main working server something happen and I can not figure it out. Now you're back in you can use qlop (or genlop) to see exactly what was updated, which may give a clue. -- Neil Bothwick Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself. Thank your. Indeed grub was updated to grub-0.97-r14 genlop --list --date 3 days ago |grep grub Fri Jan 30 23:37:03 2015 sys-boot/grub-0.97-r14 Sat Jan 31 00:28:04 2015 sys-boot/grub-2.02_beta2-r3 Though all my other system were updated as well, and it didn't cause any problem, nor did I run grub-install on any of them. So I don't think emerging/updating grub package would cause any problem unless one run grub-install -- Joseph
