Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-31 Thread J. Roeleveld 
On Tue, July 30, 2013 18:29, Michael Hampicke wrote:
 Am 30.07.2013 07:35, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

 • Can you add a new wireless or wired networks with NetworkManager?

 Never tried NM or wifi on my workstation, but my guess would be that it
 will not work.

I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I use NM for wired/wifi/vpn on my netbook running KDE and OpenRC.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen 

On 30/07/13 04:13, Mark David Dumlao wrote:

walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind
should still work.



nope, logind no longer works with anything else than systemd since 205

we have given up on logind+openrc, that's why gnome also now pulls in 
systemd at portage

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Hampicke 
Am 30.07.2013 07:35, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:
 Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt:
 As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8
 on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I
 tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it.

 I just did it :)  Gnome-3.8 is running on the openrc machine without
 running systemd at all.

 Try suspending/hibernating the machine via Gnome menu. Does that work
 for you? Never got that to work when I used openrc.
 
 Also:
 
 • Can you mount (as a normal user) USB drives, CDs, sftp remote directories?

I was able to mount usb sticks on openrc/gnome3.8, also sftp shares via
gvfs. I have no optical drive, so I don't know

 • Can you add a new wireless or wired networks with NetworkManager?

Never tried NM or wifi on my workstation, but my guess would be that it
will not work.

 • Can you shut down the machine from the GNOME menu?

This worked

 • Bluetooth? Printers?

Printing via cups worked, but I don't use BT




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[gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread walt 
As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8
on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I
tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it.

I just did it :)  Gnome-3.8 is running on the openrc machine without
running systemd at all.

However, gnome-3.8 *does* require systemd to be installed because it
has officially replaced the udev project. (All of the udev files are
now installed by the systemd package.)

Also, very important, you must set the systemd useflag globally or the
conflicts between packages and useflags will drive you insane (like me).

Another problem I've noted is that I've had a few unexplained freezes
when the VBox guests are running kernel 3.10.3, and backing down to
kernel 3.9.11-r1 seems to avoid those, but that's just my impression,
nothing more. (I'm running 3.9.11-gentoo-r1 on both host machines because
the ati-drivers and nvidia-drivers won't compile against 3.10.x the
last time I checked.)

Please note:  I have done only superficial testing on the openrc machine,
and I would not recommend that you try this trick on any machine you
really need to be solid!  This is just me playing around with stuff
that is not supported by the gentoo devs.  Be warned!

I'm going to test cinnamon next, and I'll post results in a day or
two.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Mark David Dumlao 
walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind
should still work.

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Michael Hampicke 
Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt:
 As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8
 on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I
 tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it.
 
 I just did it :)  Gnome-3.8 is running on the openrc machine without
 running systemd at all.

Try suspending/hibernating the machine via Gnome menu. Does that work
for you? Never got that to work when I used openrc.



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Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés 
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:
 Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt:
 As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8
 on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I
 tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it.

 I just did it :)  Gnome-3.8 is running on the openrc machine without
 running systemd at all.

 Try suspending/hibernating the machine via Gnome menu. Does that work
 for you? Never got that to work when I used openrc.

Also:

• Can you mount (as a normal user) USB drives, CDs, sftp remote directories?
• Can you add a new wireless or wired networks with NetworkManager?
• Can you shut down the machine from the GNOME menu?
• Bluetooth? Printers?

All of this stuff involves logind, and ConsoleKit before it. I'm
pretty sure most of them, if not all, will fail with OpenRC.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México