[gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread James
Hello,


Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe


I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
for months.


Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
somelike emerge -e ?


Should it be avoided completely?

James




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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:53:56PM +, James wrote:
 Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
 
 
 I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
 CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
 for months.

Vim syntax highlighting does not show it in red, so I guess it means it
is considered generally safe.

I seldom recompile the whole system (actually, I did it once only, for
split-debug  install-sources make effect) and never get much problems.
Usually revdep-rebuild solves them all.

However, the new flag will be used only in newly compiled packages, so
you might have a reason for the rebuild.

At the last note, I noticed a use flag for glibc about omit frame
pointer, so you might want to turn that on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread Dale

James wrote:

Hello,


Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe


I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
for months.


Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
somelike emerge -e ?


Should it be avoided completely?

James

  


Not sure if the flag is safe but I don't think portage will pick up on 
changes to CFLAGS.  You will have to do a emerge -e for all the packages 
to be compiled with the new setting.


You could also just change it and let the packages update over time as 
they get upgraded.  I don't think that will cause any problems.


You can also look here:   
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-optimization.xml  Also note, there is a 
page somewhere that gives the best CFLAGs but I can't find it.  Still 
looking tho.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:

James wrote:

Hello,


Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe


I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
for months.


Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
somelike emerge -e ?


Should it be avoided completely?

James

  


Not sure if the flag is safe but I don't think portage will pick up on 
changes to CFLAGS.  You will have to do a emerge -e for all the 
packages to be compiled with the new setting.


You could also just change it and let the packages update over time as 
they get upgraded.  I don't think that will cause any problems.


You can also look here:   
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-optimization.xml  Also note, there is 
a page somewhere that gives the best CFLAGs but I can't find it.  
Still looking tho.


Dale

:-)  :-)  :-) 


I found it.  This is not the official Gentoo site so use your own 
judgment or ask here before changing the settings.


http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags

Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 21 February 2008, James wrote:
 Hello,


 Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe


 I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
 CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
 for months.


 Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
 somelike emerge -e ?

It's safe. Of course, it takes effect only on newly compiled packages. 
I think the build systems of most packes set it anyway.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread KH

James wrote:

Hello,


Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe


I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
for months.


Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
somelike emerge -e ?


Should it be avoided completely?

James




  

Hi,

I am not too good in English but I alway understood that:

|-fomit-frame-pointer|
   Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't
   need one. This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore
   frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many
   functions. *It also makes debugging impossible on some machines.*

   On some machines, such as the VAX, this flag has no effect, because
   the standard calling sequence automatically handles the frame
   pointer and nothing is saved by pretending it doesn't exist. The
   machine-description macro |FRAME_POINTER_REQUIRED| controls whether
   a target machine supports this flag. See Register Usage
   http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gccint/Registers.html#Registers.


   Enabled at levels -O, -O2, -O3, -Os.


means, that fomit-frame-pointer is already active when -o ... is choose.

see 
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options


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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread justin


On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:53:56 + (UTC), James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
 
 
 I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
 CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
 for months.
 
 
 Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
 somelike emerge -e ?
 
 
 Should it be avoided completely?
 
 James
 
 
 
 
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Compile glibc with USE=glibc-omitfp to use -fomit-frame-pointer more
extensively. 

Question: Why are you using -march=i686 and some more optimized one? Which
processor (type and family) so you have?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes

2008-02-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008, KH wrote:
 James wrote:
  Hello,
 
 
  Current  CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
 
 
  I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my
  CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running
  for months.
 
 
  Is this safe or do I have to rebuild everything with
  somelike emerge -e ?
 
 
  Should it be avoided completely?
 
  James

 Hi,

 I am not too good in English but I alway understood that:
 |-fomit-frame-pointer|

 Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't
 need one. This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore
 frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many
 functions. *It also makes debugging impossible on some machines.*

 On some machines, such as the VAX, this flag has no effect, because
 the standard calling sequence automatically handles the frame
 pointer and nothing is saved by pretending it doesn't exist. The
 machine-description macro |FRAME_POINTER_REQUIRED| controls whether
 a target machine supports this flag. See Register Usage

 http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gccint/Registers.html#Registers.


 Enabled at levels -O, -O2, -O3, -Os.


 means, that fomit-frame-pointer is already active when -o ... is choose.

 see
 http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-
Options

man gcc:
-O also turns on -fomit-frame-pointer on machines where doing so does not 
interfere with debugging.

It doesn't hurt to set it anyway. If it is enabled by OX, it will be ignored. 
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