[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam 
 squawked:
  Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
  button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
  (console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
  pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
  has no effect.

 In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste
 is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM
 does not do third button emulation the way X does.

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste.

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode.

 I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or 
 Shift+I, 
 or Shift+Insert?

None of those do what I'm after here.
Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about
... and yet it can.




[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wednesday 23 September 2009, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 04:37:15PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam 
 squawked:
  Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
  button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
  (console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
  pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
  has no effect.

 In console the copy-paste is provided by GPM. And I thought GPM paste
 is right mouse key, not middle key. And I am also pretty sure that GPM
 does not do third button emulation the way X does.

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste.

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode.

 I am not running gpm to test; have you tried the obvious 'Insert', or 
 Shift+I, 
 or Shift+Insert?

 None of those do what I'm after here.
 Someone answered that screen can do the kind of thing I talked about
 ... and yet it can.
   ^yes




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-23 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 08:56:20PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked:
 No one responded about the possibility of using the keyboard to do the
 paste ... and man gpm is silent about it as well, does that mean its
 not really possible to copy with mouse and paste with keyboard?

I am not sure if it is even possible. This will require a server that
catches all keystrokes from the keyboard, decide whether the
keystrokes are to be sent to the application or to gpm, and act
accordingly. 

If you are in a position to select text with your mouse, I think you
are usually in a pretty good position to paste text with your mouse.
(Even for one button mice, if you read 'info gpm', which has more
details, I think it shows you how to rebind a Metakey+mouseclick
combo.)

You can of course do some sort of cut-and-paste on the console using
readline. With the history buffer, if you have typed one long command
before, you shouldn't need to do it again :) 

Else I'd just use Vim's built-in yank and pop with splitwindows. 

Maybe it is possible to integrate readline with gpm? Never thought of
that, and google doesn't show anything useful either. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 No one responded about the possibility of using the keyboard to do the
 paste ... and man gpm is silent about it as well, does that mean its
 not really possible to copy with mouse and paste with keyboard?

The only way I can think is to use screen, which has keyboard-based
text selection, copy and paste functionality (including selecting from
the scrollback buffer).



[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-22, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
 Harry Putnam writes:

 Can any one tell me how to copy with mouse (really the left mouse
 button provided on the touchpad) but paste from keyboard while in text
 (console) mode?  Or using the touch pad thing somehow.  I've tried
 pressing both touchpad buttons at once to emulate middle mouse but it
 has no effect.

 It should. Do you have 'Option Emulate3Buttons false' in your xorg.conf?
 Also see Option Emulate3Timeout (man mousedrv).

One assumes that console mode means he's not running X.

That said, I presume gpm holds the answer. But, I don't run gpm
and don't know much about it...

-- 
Grant





[gentoo-user] Re: [ot General Textmode q]

2009-09-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:
[...]

 One assumes that console mode means he's not running X.

 That said, I presume gpm holds the answer. But, I don't run gpm
 and don't know much about it...

James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com writes:
[...]

 then edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add a (or modify an existing uncommented):

 APPEND=-2

 And then the right-click should be paste.

Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes:
[...]

 I think a possibility is that you have plugged in and used a mouse
 with three buttons. This forced gpm into 3 button mode, so that the
 middle button becomes paste and right button is extend selection. Then
 you poor two-button touchpad has no more paste. 

 To prevent that edit /etc/conf.d/gpm and add APPEND=-2 to force gpm
 to stick with 2-button mode. 

Thanks to all for the prompt answers.

That solves the touch pad problem.

No one responded about the possibility of using the keyboard to do the
paste ... and man gpm is silent about it as well, does that mean its
not really possible to copy with mouse and paste with keyboard?