[gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

2006-03-29 Thread James
Meino Christian Cramer Meino.Cramer at gmx.de writes:


  As I am right at the beginning with my understanding and knowledge
  about the gentoo system, I would like to know, what this ~86 in
  /etc/portage/package.keywords does.


Well, I'm not the quintessential gentoo user, but, I'll give
you some simple advise. ~x86 means for the package listed you
are willing to install the testing version of the software.
The 3 flavors of linux software are stable, testing, and unstable
(or under active development).



  Is it advebtureous to do so, or is it just a good working tuning
  thing for x86 systems ?

Ah here you leave the ground of objective answers into the realm of the
subjective, as such, I can only give you my opinion. YES. I mostly
rund stable on my sytems and use the files in /etc/portage, when I 
choose to venture out. You could have your entire gentoo system
as ~x86 (testing) as some folks to, and fix the problems. If this is
your first or only gentoo system, having ~x86 for everything is suicide
and will result in your looking for another linux distro. Using ~x86
to gain access to those key software packages, when necessary or
desired, is warranted.

 
  Anbother question: Is there a documentation of the _installed_ gentoo
  system -- not the installing process as such?
 
on google use searches such as these:

subject +gentoo +wiki +howto  (etc) and you'll find a multitude
of documentation. After you have read, and given a reasonable attempt
to figure things out, and fail, then you post to this list. There
are numerous folks with various skill levels that read this list,
and most try to help, particularly those that have attemmpted self-help
first. Here are a few bookmarks:

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_USE_Flags
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Portage_Overlay_Listing
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Dealing_with_masked_packages

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Category:Tips
http://clug.net.nz/index.php/GentooTips
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33534

http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/browseportage/browseportage.htm?portagecat=www-apps/trac

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly

hth,

James

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[gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

2006-03-27 Thread james
Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes:


   another thing I am currently not able to understand:
   In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
   as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).

 Pardon?


 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/kaffeine-0.7.1-r1  USE=arts gstreamer -debug 
 -dvb 
 -xinerama 0 kB

I put this entry in my /etc/portage/package.keywords:

media-video/kaffeine~x86

and got this version of kaffeine working:
 media-video/kaffeine-0.8-r1  +arts -debug -dvb +encode +gstreamer +vorbis 
-xinerama

If you use dvb, make sure you enable it in the kernel

hth,

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

2006-03-27 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
From: james [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:10:01 + (UTC)

Hi,

 thank you for your help.

 My previous system was an LFS one, from which I took the complete
 configuration of the linux kernel. That's why I took a vanilla kernel
 for gentoo (by the way: Why is it named vanilla for such kind of
 things an not -- say -- straciatella, schoco, walnut or even tutti
 frutti :O)

 As I am right at the beginning with my understanding and knowledge
 about the gentoo system, I would like to know, what this ~86 in
 /etc/portage/package.keywords does.

 Is it advebtureous to do so, or is it just a good working tuning
 thing for x86 systems ?

 Anbother question: Is there a documentation of the _installed_ gentoo
 system -- not the installing process as such?

 Have a nice week!

 Keep hacking!
 mcc 



 Uwe Thiem uwix at iway.na writes:
 
 
another thing I am currently not able to understand:
In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).
 
  Pardon?
 
 
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R   ] media-video/kaffeine-0.7.1-r1  USE=arts gstreamer -debug 
  -dvb 
  -xinerama 0 kB
 
 I put this entry in my /etc/portage/package.keywords:
 
 media-video/kaffeine~x86
 
 and got this version of kaffeine working:
  media-video/kaffeine-0.8-r1  +arts -debug -dvb +encode +gstreamer +vorbis 
 -xinerama
 
 If you use dvb, make sure you enable it in the kernel
 
 hth,
 
 James
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

2006-03-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 March 2006 11:18, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena':
  My previous system was an LFS one, from which I took the complete
  configuration of the linux kernel. That's why I took a vanilla kernel
  for gentoo (by the way: Why is it named vanilla for such kind of
  things an not -- say -- straciatella, schoco, walnut or even tutti
  frutti :O)

In U.S. English, vanilla has connotation of plain, despite being just as 
much of an added flavor as strawberry or chocolate.  

I'm not sure exactly where that connotation came from, but when Americans 
talk about different flavors of an item (anything from software to cars 
to ice cream) the one with the fewest features/modifications -- the 
least flavorful -- is referred to as vanilla.

I'm not sure if this connotation extends beyond the U.S. border.  Heck I 
don't even know if it's universal across the U.S., but everyone 
understands it where I live.

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If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh


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