[gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

Harry wrote:
 So if I could identify what it is in the kernel that allowes it to
 work at the point where the kernel takes over (login prompt), then
 maybe I could enable that aspect somehow inside an initramfs, and be
 able to have the KVM recognized at the grub prompt by booting with an
 initrd.

Mike answered:
 But it's the grub that loads initrd and linux kernel is actually the one
 using it, not the grub, so you won't get it until you drop out from
 grub already.

Gack... I can't seem to get it straight how it all loads but I see
immediately what you are saying...

 You can try updating grub itself though, 0.X tree ebuilds are accessible
 for both stable and unstable gentoo arch, but there's 1.X and even live
 ebuild masked in the portage tree, prehaps they would be able to work
 with newer hardware?

I'll look into this.

 I also wonder, does BIOS recognize this KVM, can you access it?

How would I access it?




[gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:

 If you can't access the BIOS using the KVM then the problem is
 hardware, not with Linux software.

You mean if my keyboard through kvm can't get to bios... yea I see
your point.

I'll try that shortly... currently compiling an older gcc




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-10 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:56:15 -0500
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I also wonder, does BIOS recognize this KVM, can you access it?
 
 How would I access it?

Usually via DEL or F2 keys on boot, as soon as monitor lights up.

Look out for message on the bottom of splash or text screen like press
DEL to enter BIOS, it's there usually displayed somewhere.

If not, I guess it should be described in the manual for the
motherboard, which should be easily accessible on vendor's site,
provided you know the model (at least the series, since there's good
chance it's the same for all of them).

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-10 Thread Stroller


On 10 Jun 2009, at 15:56, Harry Putnam wrote:

...

I also wonder, does BIOS recognize this KVM, can you access it?


How would I access it?


My KVM is slightly clever, in that (boastnot only can I access it  
with a web-browser/boast) it allows keyboard shortcut combinations  
to be mapped. I have one that presses Escape, F1, F2, F8, F10 then  
Delete in immediate succession, and have never known this not to  
access the BIOS.


Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com writes:

 Something finally allows the kvm pass through to be recognized but not
 until I've reached the login prompt.

 But linux kernel isn't loaded or used in any way when grub screen comes
 up - grub is loading it as a last step of it's execution, so any kernel
 configuration settings should be completely irrelevant here.

Ha... now I remember someone saying that when I posted about this
quite some time ago.

Here is the thing though.

There was a time when my KVM switch was recognized at the grub boot
prompt.  So something has changed.

Are you suggesting something inside grub can be tweaked?

I've mentioned that I changed KVM switches, but with the new one, it
does work by the time the login prompt comes up.

So if I could identify what it is in the kernel that allowes it to
work at the point where the kernel takes over (login prompt), then
maybe I could enable that aspect somehow inside an initramfs, and be
able to have the KVM recognized at the grub prompt by booting with an
initrd.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KVM and no keyboard at start of boot

2009-06-09 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:55:49 -0500
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Something finally allows the kvm pass through to be recognized but not
  until I've reached the login prompt.
 
  But linux kernel isn't loaded or used in any way when grub screen comes
  up - grub is loading it as a last step of it's execution, so any kernel
  configuration settings should be completely irrelevant here.
 
 So if I could identify what it is in the kernel that allowes it to
 work at the point where the kernel takes over (login prompt), then
 maybe I could enable that aspect somehow inside an initramfs, and be
 able to have the KVM recognized at the grub prompt by booting with an
 initrd.

But it's the grub that loads initrd and linux kernel is actually the one
using it, not the grub, so you won't get it until you drop out from
grub already.

You can try updating grub itself though, 0.X tree ebuilds are accessible
for both stable and unstable gentoo arch, but there's 1.X and even live
ebuild masked in the portage tree, prehaps they would be able to work
with newer hardware?

I also wonder, does BIOS recognize this KVM, can you access it?

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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