Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-24 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Francesco,
on Monday, 2007-04-23 at 21:58:18, you wrote:
 Based on my experience I would add to verify also the upper MTU value 
 really supported.

According to Documentation/networking/e1000.txt, the adapters should all
support 16K frames. The limiting factor would be the switch's 9K limit,
but I've stayed below that as well.

cheers!
Matthias
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[gentoo-user] Re: NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-23 Thread ames
kashani kashani-list at badapple.net writes:


  Just curious: What kind of network (layer 2) is this that allows an MTU of 
  9000?
  Uwe

  It sounds like Gigabit Ethernet to me.

 Keep in mind that not all fastE or gigE switches support jumbo frames. 
 Additionally not all cards support jumbo frames either though you can 
 certainly set them to an MTU of 9000 and watch things break.

 To the original poster, I'd do some googling and verify that all the 
 network cards and switches involved can do jumbo frames and that it is 
 enabled on each device as needed.

 kashani



Does NFS have any negotiations to determine if jumbo frames can work
between 2 system, then use a smaller mtu if a larger (jumbo) mtu
is not suppported between devices?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-23 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 23 April 2007, ames wrote:
 kashani kashani-list at badapple.net writes:
   Just curious: What kind of network (layer 2) is this that allows an
   MTU of 9000?
   Uwe
  
   It sounds like Gigabit Ethernet to me.
 
  Keep in mind that not all fastE or gigE switches support jumbo frames.
  Additionally not all cards support jumbo frames either though you can
  certainly set them to an MTU of 9000 and watch things break.
 
  To the original poster, I'd do some googling and verify that all the
  network cards and switches involved can do jumbo frames and that it is
  enabled on each device as needed.
 
  kashani

 Does NFS have any negotiations to determine if jumbo frames can work
 between 2 system, then use a smaller mtu if a larger (jumbo) mtu
 is not suppported between devices?

Don't stare at NFS.  It's too high a layer in the TCP/IP stack.  And yes, it 
can deal with large packets. You can use NFS with localhost (127.0.0.1), 
right? That one usually has an MTU of 16,436.

The real issues with MTUs occur at layer 2 (ethernet or whatever you are 
using), IP (fragmentation and de-fragmentation) and ICMP (MTU discovery).

Uwe

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[gentoo-user] Re: NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-23 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 23 April 2007, kashani wrote:
 Tony Stohne wrote:
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  Uwe Thiem said the following on 2007-04-23 17:53:
  Just curious: What kind of network (layer 2) is this that allows
  an MTU of 9000?
 
  Uwe
 
  It sounds like Gigabit Ethernet to me.

 Keep in mind that not all fastE or gigE switches support jumbo
 frames. Additionally not all cards support jumbo frames either though
 you can certainly set them to an MTU of 9000 and watch things break.
Some cards do support jumbo frames, but up to values lower than 9000, 
for example I set up a NFS over a gbit link with jumbo frames with an 
MTU of 7200 because this was the lower common.

 To the original poster, I'd do some googling and verify that all the
 network cards and switches involved can do jumbo frames and that it
 is enabled on each device as needed.

 kashani

Based on my experience I would add to verify also the upper MTU value 
really supported.

Ciao
Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: NFS vs. jumbo frames

2007-04-23 Thread Fabio Correa

You can also fiddle with the rsize, wsize NFS mount parameters.


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