Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 02:04 +, James wrote: Now on to converting them to Mpeg4-avc (h.264). I would be interested in seeing the command line (or program options) that you settle on for this process. I was using mencoder and ffmpeg a while back to do similar things, and I found most of it was trial and error to get the best picture - the help I found about various options was very minimal. cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au If you weren't my teacher, I'd think you just deleted all my files. -- an anonymous UCB CS student, to an instructor who had typed rm -i * to get rid of a file named -f on a Unix system. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Hi James i have a sony digital camera that takes movies, and it just shows up as a usb drive. Well, I went ahaed and purchased a sony DCR SR42. It does not show up with usbview, ivman or in the dmesg if I reboot and leave it attached via usb. I have a Sony DCR-SR32 that I use with my Gentoo Thinkpad. This is a great little camera that works well with Linux (i.e. shows up as a USB mass storage device). Your model is in the same range so I would imaging the following would work for you as well. To get the video off the camera, I do the following: 1. Plug the docking station into the wall socket and turn the wall power on. Plug the USB lead into the laptop. 2. Attach the camera to the docking station and switch the camera on. 3. Open up the LCD display. Select the computer hard disk button. 4. At that point /var/log/messages shows something like: Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb-storage: device found at 4 Aug 13 10:07:59 obufki usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki Vendor: Sony Model: Camcorder Rev: 1.00 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki SCSI device sdb: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Write Protect is on Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Mode Sense: 00 32 00 80 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki SCSI device sdb: 58605120 512-byte hdwr sectors (30006 MB) Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Write Protect is on Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: Mode Sense: 00 32 00 80 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sdb: sdb1 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 Aug 13 10:08:04 obufki usb-storage: device scan complete Aug 13 10:08:05 obufki scsi.agent[7784]: disk at /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0 5. The LCD shows: Connecting... Do not unplug the USB cable. Do not turn off the power. There is also an END button that you press after you have finished transfering the video. 6. Mount the device under Linux: e.g. mount /mnt/camcorder My /etc/fstab entry looks like: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/camcorder autonoauto,ro,user 0 0 7. cp /mnt/camcorder/mp_root/101pnv01/* ~/video 8. After video has finished transferring, umount /mnt/camcorder 9. Press the 'END' button on the camera LCD display and follow any instructions. The only gotcha for me was, the first time I tried this I hadn't connected the camera to the docking station properly. You really need to give it a good shove to make sure the connection is good. Did you activate anything special in your kernel? [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux $ grep -i USB .config |grep -v 'is not set' CONFIG_BT_HCIUSB=y CONFIG_BT_HCIUSB_SCO=y CONFIG_BT_HCIBFUSB=y # Supported USB Adapters # USB devices CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO=m # USB support CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_EHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y # Miscellaneous USB options CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # USB Host Controller Drivers CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # USB Device Class drivers CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y # NOTE: USB_STORAGE enables SCSI, and 'SCSI disk support' # may also be needed; see USB_STORAGE Help for more information CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y # USB Input Devices CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # USB Imaging devices # USB Network Adapters # USB port drivers # USB Serial Converter support CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC=y CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=m CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232=m # USB Miscellaneous drivers # USB DSL modem support # USB Gadget Support i would assume that the video recorders would work the same way. maybe you can take a laptop to a store that sells them and check to see if it works that way or find someone that has one and borrow it. if you dont want sony recorders im sure you can find another brand with the same interface. Well, If I cannot get it to at least mount the 30Gig HD like most usb devices, I might just return it for another model... ideas on things to try to get this DCR SR42 to work? Try the above. This is a great little camera and I am really glad I bought it. Good luck Garry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Garry Smith garry.smith at computer.org writes:
Hi James
{SNIP}
Try the above. This is a great little camera and I am really glad I
bought it.
Garry
Hello Garry,
Last last night I got it to work, noodling around with it, I figured
out you have to push several menu buttons before IVMAN picked up the
usb device. Once that happened, I was off to the races.
I do appreciate your meticulous instructions. In fact we should
build/populate a sony/handicam gentoo wiki, so it is very straight
forward For other to use a sony HDD video camera with Gentoo...
I have many things I want to try and do with Gentoo and the family
video camera. Virtually all of the players I tested last night,
vlc, mplayer kaffeine and codeine all worked fabulously with the
Mpeg(2) files, I tried. Right now, I've got about 75 individual
files in a dir because I stopped and started the camera after
each play on my sons football game. That way I can figure out
how to index into the game, on a chronological basis,to review an
individual play, or just watch the entire game from start to finish.
I'm going to write some simple scripts to auto convert
these ugly (name )files to something more meaningful
and logical, keeping each game in a separate dir. I wonder if anyone
has hacked any database stuff to help one manage a large collect
of video files
Now on to converting them to Mpeg4-avc (h.264).
More to come, but, THANKS for your advice.
You are right on the money...
James
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Paul stenius at gmail.com writes: i have a sony digital camera that takes movies, and it just shows up as a usb drive. Well, I went ahaed and purchased a sony DCR SR42. It does not show up with usbview, ivman or in the dmesg if I reboot and leave it attached via usb. Did you activate anything special in your kernel? i would assume that the video recorders would work the same way. maybe you can take a laptop to a store that sells them and check to see if it works that way or find someone that has one and borrow it. if you dont want sony recorders im sure you can find another brand with the same interface. Well, If I cannot get it to at least mount the 30Gig HD like most usb devices, I might just return it for another model... ideas on things to try to get this DCR SR42 to work? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace.net.au writes: After playing around with video camera's for a few years, I have come to the conclusion that the best way to go is the hard-drive based models, such as the JVC everio series (their 3CCD model looks nice). Hello Iain, I got a sony DCR SR42, but, if I cannot mount via the usb on the docking station, then I'm going to return it. I've done lots of firewire video capture over the years, including a few amateur wedding videos, and the biggest pain is capturing and storing the footage. With a HD model camera, you just plug it in like an external hard drive (JVC works this way, I assume others would be the same) and download the video files. Well this camera does not have usb right on the camera. It's on the docking station and that just my be why it does not show up, no matter what I try. No need to worry about how to encode, because it's all done for you, and at the exact aspect ratio and quality that the camera recorded in. Very fast! A mini-DV camera takes 1 hour to download (capture) 1 hour of footage. A mini DVD camera only stores about 1/2 per DVD. A HD camera can store 10+ hours, and take only 10 minutes to download it! Yes, standard Mpeg2 (DVD) is what most put out. That is easy to use under linux. Are you downloading wide and viewing it on a wide screen LCD TV? If so does your video card have hdmi out or what cabling are you using from your linux system to the to the LCD TV? again, kino and firewire will let you pause, record, ff, etc. I'll give kino a whirl, when I get the cabling straight. It sounds like I'm going to have to test these cameras in the store before making the final purchase. Thanks for the advice. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT :video cameras and gentoo
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 04:24 +, James wrote: I got a sony DCR SR42, but, if I cannot mount via the usb on the docking station, then I'm going to return it. I would tend to agree - if it has a HD and USB, it should show up as a USB HD! (what a pain to have to install special software, like you do for canon, just to get the files off...) I've done lots of firewire video capture over the years, including a few amateur wedding videos, and the biggest pain is capturing and storing the footage. With a HD model camera, you just plug it in like an external hard drive (JVC works this way, I assume others would be the same) and download the video files. Well this camera does not have usb right on the camera. It's on the docking station and that just my be why it does not show up, no matter what I try. the JVC had usb on the camera and on the dock. Both seemed to work the same. Yes, standard Mpeg2 (DVD) is what most put out. That is easy to use under linux. the biggest problem I found was that they named the files .MOD even though they were mpeg2, so nautilus came up with it's I'm not going to open because I think the name is wrong message. Other than that, they play fine. Are you downloading wide and viewing it on a wide screen LCD TV? If so does your video card have hdmi out or what cabling are you using from your linux system to the to the LCD TV? No actually, I edit and preview on my 16:10 15.4 laptop LCD, but usually hand it out to people who may have anything! again, kino and firewire will let you pause, record, ff, etc. I'll give kino a whirl, when I get the cabling straight. It sounds like I'm going to have to test these cameras in the store before making the final purchase. maybe. At least you know it'll work the way you want. Or just do what I did: convince your brother-in-law to buy it, then take it straight off him to play with :) Thanks for the advice. no worries. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Let me take you a button-hole lower. -- William Shakespeare, Love's Labour's Lost -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
