Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-07 Thread Mick
On Thursday 07 December 2006 11:19, Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:04, rob wrote:
  I Just use dvdrip emerge it works fine.

 I have used dvdrip and it created an avi file.  I have come across two
 issues since which I am not sure how to resolve:

 1. Although I set the size of the media to 4700MB, dvdrip created a file
 which is just 2.9G (according to K3B).
 2. I burned it to a DVD, but cannot mount it!  I am lost as to why I can't
 mount the darn thing.  I get a message:

 # mount -t udf /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd
 mount: No medium found

 I tried UDF because auto, or iso9660, didn't work either.  I tried
 mounting/playing it on a colleague's WinXP box and it worked fine.  What's
 up with this?

 This is what my fstab has:

 /dev/dvd   /mnt/dvd   auto,iso9660,udf   noauto,ro,user,exec   0 0

It seems that it has something to do with the joliet thing again that I used 
to burn it.  From dmesg:

ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISOFS: changing to secondary root

What does this mean?  Why can't my Gentoo read it?  Something I need to set in 
the kernel?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-07 Thread Bira

On 12/7/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It seems that it has something to do with the joliet thing again that I used
to burn it.  From dmesg:

ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISOFS: changing to secondary root

What does this mean?  Why can't my Gentoo read it?  Something I need to set in
the kernel?



That's probably it - in the make menuconfig menu, it should be named
something like Joliet filesystem support, and be right next to the
option for UDF.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-05 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 December 2006 11:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
 It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second
 layer.  I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.

 Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems
 burning.

I am placing an order as I'm writing this.  Thanks for the hint!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-05 Thread rob

I Just use dvdrip emerge it works fine.


 On Monday 04 December 2006 11:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
  It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second
  layer.  I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.
 
  Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems
  burning.

 I am placing an order as I'm writing this.  Thanks for the hint!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-04 Thread Alan E. Davis

I am not an expert about this.  I have used dvd:rip to copy a dvd DL
file (8+GB) to HDD.  After mounting the image as a loop device (see
man mount) I was able to burn the image to a disk with dvd9to5.  It
worked in that particular instance.

Alan

On 12/4/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 18:54 +, Mick wrote:

 I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:

 media-video/dvdrip
 media-video/acidrip
 media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip

 How do they compare?

I've never found a gui dvd ripper that I really liked.  I just transcode
the vob files by hand.

 Two more Qs:
 Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit
 choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I
 have used:
 =
 mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac
 mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
 =

not sure about the frame dropping... did you try x264 as suggest
earlier?

here's the mencoder options I used to transcode some dv.  I've found
with mencoder, the best way is to try lots of times, and see what works
the best.  (Only try a minute at a time, or you'll end up waisting a lot
of time :)

mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
scale=720:576,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192:aspect=4/3
 -ofps 25 -o tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.mpeg tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.dv

This was after some playing around to get to mpeg2 to burn later to dvd.

 If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one
 or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.

dunno... try leaving of the pass option and see?

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mick wrote:

On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
  

On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
  

Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn
an iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(


So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.
  

I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning
either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
Samsung drive.]



Thanks for all the suggestions!  My Phillips DVD writer is internally mounted.  
After about half way instead of flipping over and burning the second layer it 
just fails with an input/output error.  I've tried my Gentoo OS and a Knoppix 
CD just in case it was a matter of OS/application settings, but the same 
error occurred.



  


I had problems with DVD DL media, too.
It stopped with a write failure just before beginning to burn the second 
layer.

I tried Verbatim DL media and it worked very well.

Since then I _ONLY_ used Verbatim media, I didnt have anymore problems 
burning.


HTH




[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
 to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
 (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

 I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
 iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
 topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
 K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
 trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
 economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

 So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning 
either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
Samsung drive.]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
  DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
  laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
 
  I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn
  an iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
  topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
  K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
  trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
  economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
 
  So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

 I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
 drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
 the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning
 either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
 Samsung drive.]

Thanks for all the suggestions!  My Phillips DVD writer is internally mounted.  
After about half way instead of flipping over and burning the second layer it 
just fails with an input/output error.  I've tried my Gentoo OS and a Knoppix 
CD just in case it was a matter of OS/application settings, but the same 
error occurred.

I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:

media-video/dvdrip
media-video/acidrip
media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip

How do they compare?

Two more Qs:
Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit 
choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I 
have used:
=
mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac 
mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
=

If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one 
or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.  The think 
is I cannot read what it says fully because the character set in my terminal 
gets screwed up:
=
videocodec: XviD (720x576 fourcc=44495658 [XVID])
xvid: par=0/0 (vga11), displayed=1024x576, sampled=720x576
xvid: you must specify one or a valid combination 
of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings
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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-12-03, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
 handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
(decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:

$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/TITLENAME

 CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
 works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
 in a special part of the DVD's header. This header part of
 the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
 that authoring DVD- burners which support it cost several
 thousand pounds), so a bitwise copy of a DVD cannot be
 decrypted (because the key is missing).

 As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
 make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
 removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
 compilation. The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
 in any standard player.

Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
same-size copies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Mick

On 03/12/06, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2006-12-03, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it
 handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
(decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:

$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/TITLENAME

 CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
 works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
 in a special part of the DVD's header. This header part of
 the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
 that authoring DVD- burners which support it cost several
 thousand pounds), so a bitwise copy of a DVD cannot be
 decrypted (because the key is missing).

 As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
 make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
 removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
 compilation. The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
 in any standard player.

Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
same-size copies.


This is getting me down: sigh . . .
=
$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o dvds
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN | builtin_dd
of=/dev/dvd obs=32k seek=0'
 0.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
 0.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
 0.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
/dev/dvd: splitting layers at 175 blocks
/dev/dvd: Current Write Speed is 2.5x1385KBps.
 0.57% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:14 2006
 0.71% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:48 2006
 0.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:28:12 2006
 1.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
 1.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
[snip...]

49.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:08 2006
50.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
50.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
50.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:11 2006
50.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:10 2006
:-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error
=

This must be the third wasted DL DVD.  I think that I will need to
concentrate on transcoding the darn thing from now on.  I wish I could
pin point the problem.  When I tried playing the DVD in M$Windows it
complained about the region not being set - but I didn't have any such
problem in Linux.  Nero express won't even see the DL disk, just shows
the size of CD.  Could it be something to do with the firmware?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 18:54 +, Mick wrote:

 I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:
 
 media-video/dvdrip
 media-video/acidrip
 media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip
 
 How do they compare?

I've never found a gui dvd ripper that I really liked.  I just transcode
the vob files by hand.

 Two more Qs:
 Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit 
 choppy (drops frames).  Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I 
 have used:
 =
 mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac 
 mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
 =

not sure about the frame dropping... did you try x264 as suggest
earlier?

here's the mencoder options I used to transcode some dv.  I've found
with mencoder, the best way is to try lots of times, and see what works
the best.  (Only try a minute at a time, or you'll end up waisting a lot
of time :)

mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd -vf
scale=720:576,harddup -srate 48000 -af lavcresample=48000 -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg2video:vrc_buf_size=1835:vrc_maxrate=9800:vbitrate=5000:keyint=15:acodec=ac3:abitrate=192:aspect=4/3
 -ofps 25 -o tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.mpeg tape3/2006.06.30_14-57-41.dv 

This was after some playing around to get to mpeg2 to burn later to dvd.

 If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one 
 or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings.

dunno... try leaving of the pass option and see?

HTH,
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