RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 January 2006 00:55
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 There is, set a suitable umask value. By default, NTFS partitions are
 mounted readable only by the user that mounted them. Setting umask=222
 makes them readable by everyone, but still writable by no-one 
 (although
 NTFS is usually mounted ro so this makes little difference). 
 See the NTFS
 section of man mount.

Thanks! I've read the manual and then tried different umask options.
Umask=222 seems the most reasonable for what I need.  I noticed that the
different subdirectories and files automatically inherit the allocated
NTFS partition access rights.  Is this how umask in fstab works
(recursively)?

On a hypothetical case where you want to give different access rights to
all/some subdorectories  files, do you have to set these individually
the first time after mounting the partition, use ACL's, or what else?

Sorry if my questions appear silly - I've always been confused by this
topic and its different permutations.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Ruskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 January 2006 22:49
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 
 
 I don't see your problem.  This is how my fstab shows ntfs:
 
 /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0

I'm lost!  What does posix=1 mean?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Stroller


On 5 Jan 2006, at 12:43, Michael Kintzios wrote:


I don't see your problem.  This is how my fstab shows ntfs:

/dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0


I'm lost!  What does posix=1 mean?


From `man mount`:

   Mount options for ntfs
   ...posix=[0|1]
  If  enabled  (posix=1),  the  file  system  
distinguishes between
  upper and lower case. The 8.3 alias names are  
presented as  hard

  links instead of being suppressed.

Stroller
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 January 2006 13:32
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 
 
 On 5 Jan 2006, at 12:43, Michael Kintzios wrote:
 
  I don't see your problem.  This is how my fstab shows ntfs:
 
  /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0
 
  I'm lost!  What does posix=1 mean?
 
  From `man mount`:
 
 Mount options for ntfs
 ...posix=[0|1]
If  enabled  (posix=1),  the  file  system  
 distinguishes between
upper and lower case. The 8.3 alias names are  
 presented as  hard
links instead of being suppressed.

Thanks!  I've got a looot of reading to do . . . (although it's more
interesting to talk it over?)

So if a suitable umask sorts out the mounting of ntfs partitions, what's
the recommended umask and fstab entries for a dvdrw,cdrw and
dvdrom,cdrom?

I note that Peter R has rw on this ntfs - is this needed for captive to
work or what's the trick here?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:10:40 -, Michael Kintzios wrote:

 So if a suitable umask sorts out the mounting of ntfs partitions, what's
 the recommended umask and fstab entries for a dvdrw,cdrw and
 dvdrom,cdrom?

You really need to read the mount man page. umask is only for certain
filesystems, it is not used with ISO9660.


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[gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-04 Thread Mick
Neil Bothwick wrote:

 
 user or users. The difference is that with user, only the user that
 mounted a filesystem, or root, can umount it. With users, user A can
 mount a filesystem and user B can umount it.

What a right 'carry on' this access issue is.  I eventually got on the
machine in question.  Two NTFS partitions.  When I add
noauto,ro,user,uid=1001 the user in question can mount and read the various
files.  The respective mount point under /mnt/Suzy_WinXP is shown as
suzy:root.

As soon as I remove the uid number from fstab the user can no longer access
the files!  Konqueror comes up with this error: Unable to enter
file:///mnt/Suzy_WinXP.  You do not have access rights to this location. 
The /mnt/Suzy_WinXP is now shown as root:root and Konqueror shows Locked
Folder.  The funny thing is that the NTFS partition *is* mounted as shown
in mount:
===
/dev/sda14 on /mnt/Suzy_WinXP type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
===

So, if I want to mount NTFS partitions by different users what am I supposed
to do?  Pile up the uid Nos?  There must be a better way.  Unlike VFAT
partitions which do not recognise/require ownership NTFS does not seem to
want to play.  Are your experiences different?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:01:51 +, Mick wrote:

 So, if I want to mount NTFS partitions by different users what am I
 supposed to do?  Pile up the uid Nos?  There must be a better way. 

There is, set a suitable umask value. By default, NTFS partitions are
mounted readable only by the user that mounted them. Setting umask=222
makes them readable by everyone, but still writable by no-one (although
NTFS is usually mounted ro so this makes little difference). See the NTFS
section of man mount.


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