Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 16:32:26 Albert Hopkins wrote:

 The way I see it there are two possible solutions:

 1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the
 runlevel.  The drawback to this is you have to maintain another
 runlevel.

I don't see what maintenance load this imposes. I have a no-x runlevel for 
when I don't want a GUI, and since creating it and populating it I've never 
had to touch it.

In practice, it turns out that the only differences between my default and 
no-x are the presence of gpm in no-x and of xdm and lm_sensors in default. 
(I use lm_sensors for gkrellm, which of course, although indispensable on 
the desktop, isn't much use in a character display.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread David Finkel
You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
kernel command line for the xdm parameter.

-David

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  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:16:00 +0400
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  I want to add a grub menu entry that will load
  the system without
  starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the
  'nox' kernel parameter is
  passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out
  how that's done but
  failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do
  this? Thanks for any
  pointers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote:

 You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
 command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
 from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
 kernel command line for the xdm parameter.

This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run
xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread forgottenwizard
On 22:37 Wed 19 Dec , Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote:
 
  You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
  command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
  from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
  kernel command line for the xdm parameter.
 
 This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run
 xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot.
 
 
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How about running startx, or modifying the script to see if boot time
was within X of the current time (seeing if this IS boot, or some other
time), or maybe (I don't run xdm, or any display manager for that
matter) you could just pass an arg to xdm to make it start.

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[gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Yahya Mohammad
I want to add a grub menu entry that will load the system without
starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the 'nox' kernel parameter is
passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out how that's done but
failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do this? Thanks for any
pointers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Albert Hopkins

On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 20:16 +0400, Yahya Mohammad wrote:
 I want to add a grub menu entry that will load the system without
 starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the 'nox' kernel parameter is
 passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out how that's done but
 failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do this? Thanks for any
 pointers.

I don't know what the livecd does but you certainly don't have to modify
a kernel to do something like that.

The way I see it there are two possible solutions:

1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the
runlevel.  The drawback to this is you have to maintain another
runlevel.

2. Edit /etc/init.d/xdm (or better yet, make a copy of your own and edit
it) that simply checks for the existence of, say nox in /proc/cmdline
and exit immediately if so.

Then change your grub config as appropriate.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Galevsky
There is a softlevel option to add in your grub entry to switch to a
different RC.

have a look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_create_a_run_level

Gal'

On Dec 18, 2007 5:16 PM, Yahya Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to add a grub menu entry that will load the system without
 starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the 'nox' kernel parameter is
 passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out how that's done but
 failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do this? Thanks for any
 pointers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:26 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote:

 1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the
 runlevel.  The drawback to this is you have to maintain another
 runlevel.

I have this in /etc/conf.d/local.stop to keep my text runlevel in line
with default

cd /etc/runlevels/default
rm -f ../text/*
for i in * ; do
   ln -s ../default/$i ../text/$i
   rm -f ../text/{xdm,vmware}
   done


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RE: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Jonathan Haws
If you don't have any other use for the 'single' runlevel, you can use
the softlevel grub option (softlevel=single) to boot without X.  It
works great for me.

Jonathan R. Haws
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

There is a softlevel option to add in your grub entry to switch to a
different RC.

have a look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_create_a_run_level

Gal'

On Dec 18, 2007 5:16 PM, Yahya Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to add a grub menu entry that will load the system without
 starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the 'nox' kernel
parameter is
 passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out how that's done but
 failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do this? Thanks for any
 pointers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-18 Thread Yahya Mohammad
Thanks very much everyone for the suggestions!!

On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 07:15:39PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:26 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 
  1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the
  runlevel.  The drawback to this is you have to maintain another
  runlevel.
 
 I have this in /etc/conf.d/local.stop to keep my text runlevel in line
 with default
 
 cd /etc/runlevels/default
 rm -f ../text/*
 for i in * ; do
ln -s ../default/$i ../text/$i
rm -f ../text/{xdm,vmware}
done
 
 
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