Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
On 9/20/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:35:09 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I haven't tried using it for this, but I wonder if RC_USE_CONFIG_PROFILE would help. See /etc/conf.d/rc for details but basically you set up different configs for different runlevels, so you could have a different runlevel for each situation, but make the actual runlevel directories symlinks to default. Selecting the runlevel on rebooting would certainly pick up the appropriate config, you'd have to try it to see what happens when switching runlevels while running. Have you checked out net-misc/netprofiles-ims? I haven't, but it looks promising (it's only keyworded for x86 currently, dunno why, dunno what platform you're running). -James I've run a couple of tests now, using different /etc/conf.d/net.runlevel files. Switching runlevels on the fly doesn't cause the new configs to be loaded, but restarting the network afterwards does. I expect this is fine for your needs, as you are unlikely to have the network running while between locations. Even if you are, you only need to do rc newrunlevel /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart to switch over. The VPN and other stuff you need to run is easily handled in the postup() function of the relevant net.runlevel file. -- Neil Bothwick If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:48:11 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: If I set the NIC to DHCP as you advise, you are implying that gentoo will handle the various fixed IP's, subnets, gateways and differing vpn schemes automaticly? How can it do that? Only some of the networks (only three in fact) use DHCP. It will only do it automatically if there is a DHCP server on the network. There is a fallback option in in Gentoo settings for when DHCP fails. ifplugd looks interesting - possibly the best I can do will be to use ifplugd to trigger if-up and if-up will have to contain the various add ons like the vpns and service restarting with functions to detect which to run where. Don't do that, it will conflict with Gentoo's setup. As I said before, don't do anything with ifplugd beyond emerging it. The Gentoo scripts detect it is there and use it. Put all your scripting in /etc/conf.d/net. No relief from the nightmare I am afraid ... Why is this nightmare anything to do with Gentoo? If you connect to networks that require manual configuration, you have to configure manually. At least the functions in conf.d/net allow you to automate a substantial part of the process. Take a close look at /etc/conf.d/net.example, I think you'll find it can do most, if not all, of what you want. -- Neil Bothwick You have a tendency to feel you are superior to most computers. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 08:45 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:48:11 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: ... No relief from the nightmare I am afraid ... Why is this nightmare anything to do with Gentoo? If you connect to networks that require manual configuration, you have to configure manually. At least the functions in conf.d/net allow you to automate a substantial part of the process. Take a close look at /etc/conf.d/net.example, I think you'll find it can do most, if not all, of what you want. The nightmare is that gentoo will only handle a small subset of the networks I need to connect to at any one time (i.e., I cant configure all the networks in the one set of config files - see my original post for the permutations). I cant see that gentoo's method will allow me to handle all the permutations without having scripts to reconfigure it at each site by copying in new files and restarting services/vpn's and athentications depending on what is required at each site. The reason I posted this originally is that the above process keeping separate configs has been working for years (inc. when I was using Mandrake) and I am happy to keep doing that - however something in gentoo's latest baselayout breaks things like zebedee and openvpn (flakey on start/stop) in this scenario. BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:21:25 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: The nightmare is that gentoo will only handle a small subset of the networks I need to connect to at any one time (i.e., I cant configure all the networks in the one set of config files - see my original post for the permutations). I cant see that gentoo's method will allow me to handle all the permutations without having scripts to reconfigure it at each site by copying in new files and restarting services/vpn's and athentications depending on what is required at each site. I haven't tried using it for this, but I wonder if RC_USE_CONFIG_PROFILE would help. See /etc/conf.d/rc for details but basically you set up different configs for different runlevels, so you could have a different runlevel for each situation, but make the actual runlevel directories symlinks to default. Selecting the runlevel on rebooting would certainly pick up the appropriate config, you'd have to try it to see what happens when switching runlevels while running. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as someone else stole his taglines. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:35:09 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I haven't tried using it for this, but I wonder if RC_USE_CONFIG_PROFILE would help. See /etc/conf.d/rc for details but basically you set up different configs for different runlevels, so you could have a different runlevel for each situation, but make the actual runlevel directories symlinks to default. Selecting the runlevel on rebooting would certainly pick up the appropriate config, you'd have to try it to see what happens when switching runlevels while running. I've run a couple of tests now, using different /etc/conf.d/net.runlevel files. Switching runlevels on the fly doesn't cause the new configs to be loaded, but restarting the network afterwards does. I expect this is fine for your needs, as you are unlikely to have the network running while between locations. Even if you are, you only need to do rc newrunlevel /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart to switch over. The VPN and other stuff you need to run is easily handled in the postup() function of the relevant net.runlevel file. -- Neil Bothwick If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly? I currently connect to multiple networks using a laptop with an ipw2200 wireless and a built in NIC consisting of: NIC, fixed IP NIC, DHCP NIC, DHCP and openvpn NIC, DHCP and CiscoVPN wireless with wpa/tkip wireless with wpa/tkip and openvpn wireless plain with openvpn wireless plain with CiscoVPN. all configs have common services like a caching bind server, zebedee and apache and various other services not normally seen on a laptop. These usually need restarting in order for the new config to take. and obviously more than one network of each type in some cases. It is wireless or NIC, not both at once. Currently I arrive at a site and run a script that copies in the config files for the needed configuration, and then restarts the needed services. This broke with the last baselayout changes - wierd things happen like zebedee running ok when the initscript is run from the commandline, but not from a script. So I reverted, but I am thinking I need to redesign the system or start making bug reports in order to use the latest changes. Also, is there an integrated way to plug in a network cable and have a config RELIABLY recognised and trigger the necessary actions? Its not a good look to arrive at lecture in front of 30-50 people and struggle to connect to the local network, which seems par for the course for gentoo! BillK -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can the new baselayout handle multiple networks seamlessly?
If I set the NIC to DHCP as you advise, you are implying that gentoo will handle the various fixed IP's, subnets, gateways and differing vpn schemes automaticly? How can it do that? Only some of the networks (only three in fact) use DHCP. ifplugd looks interesting - possibly the best I can do will be to use ifplugd to trigger if-up and if-up will have to contain the various add ons like the vpns and service restarting with functions to detect which to run where. No relief from the nightmare I am afraid ... BillK On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 01:05 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 06:58:11 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: Also, is there an integrated way to plug in a network cable and have a config RELIABLY recognised and trigger the necessary actions? Its not a good look to arrive at lecture in front of 30-50 people and struggle to connect to the local network, which seems par for the course for gentoo! emerge ifplugd, but don't try to configure it, Gentoo's networking scripts handle that automatically. Set your wired interface to use DHCP and it should set itself up automatically. If you want something else done when connecting or disconnecting the cable, such as shutting down wireless or restarting services, look at the preup/postup/predown/postdown functions in /etc/conf.d/net.example. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
