Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
delete the contents of /etc/adjtime this file contains data that the kernel uses to keep track of time, it compensates for a slow/fast system clock tick. If this file gets stuffed up then the kernel over compensates for what it perceives to be a way out clock, and all hell breaks loose. So try clearing it out and see if that works better (it will be re-written with something sensible sooner or later) If On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 07:55 -0700, Rob wrote: rob3 wrote: David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob Hi !! No, the hour changes and the minutes change. Rob. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
Nick Rout wrote: delete the contents of /etc/adjtime this file contains data that the kernel uses to keep track of time, it compensates for a slow/fast system clock tick. If this file gets stuffed up then the kernel over compensates for what it perceives to be a way out clock, and all hell breaks loose. So try clearing it out and see if that works better (it will be re-written with something sensible sooner or later) If On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 07:55 -0700, Rob wrote: rob3 wrote: David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob Hi !! No, the hour changes and the minutes change. Rob. Thanks for response. Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that solved the problem CLOCK=local. This does not appear in the Gentoo manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time. I submitted a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
On Sat, 21 May 2005, Rob wrote: Thanks for response. Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that solved the problem CLOCK=local. This does not appear in the Gentoo manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time. I submitted a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this. Normally this line is already in rc.conf and well commented enough to understand. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2005, Rob wrote: Thanks for response. Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that solved the problem CLOCK=local. This does not appear in the Gentoo manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time. I submitted a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this. Normally this line is already in rc.conf and well commented enough to understand. Not in mine. Missing from stage 3 tarball for i386. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
rob3 wrote: I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Check /etc/rc.conf and see if clock says UTC or local. If it says UTC, than that is the problem (as Windows doesn't support having a different OS clock than bios clock). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
yes my clock has been going craizy lately as well i use rdate to time.nist.gov to sync it and it appears that my clock always skips some seconds and minutes in time, i use local clock. On 5/20/05, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rob3 wrote: I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Check /etc/rc.conf and see if clock says UTC or local. If it says UTC, than that is the problem (as Windows doesn't support having a different OS clock than bios clock). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
rob3 wrote: David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob Hi !! No, the hour changes and the minutes change. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob Thanks for replying. I performed the official Dell Laptop clock set procedure, resetting bios, and then setting the clock to the right time I also performed the official Gentoo procedure found on Google by typing +gentoo +linux +clock and clicking on the clock tips article. None of this works at all ' Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
Steven Susbauer wrote: rob3 wrote: I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Check /etc/rc.conf and see if clock says UTC or local. If it says UTC, than that is the problem (as Windows doesn't support having a different OS clock than bios clock). Gentoo does set the clock to UTC according to boot messages. Perhaps this is the whole problem. How do I fix it? Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
I looked at adjtime. I alredy have 0.0 as the first entry, so that mailing list thread does not apply to me. Thanks, Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
On Fri, 20 May 2005, Ivan Lucian Aron wrote: yes my clock has been going craizy lately as well i use rdate to time.nist.gov to sync it and it appears that my clock always skips some seconds and minutes in time, i use local clock. rdate? NTP is your friend. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
On Fri, 20 May 2005, Rob wrote: No, the hour changes and the minutes change. Please edit /etc/rc.conf and read the comments therein regarding the system clock. You may also want to emerge NTP to keep the clock up-to-date. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
Rob wrote: Gentoo does set the clock to UTC according to boot messages. Perhaps this is the whole problem. How do I fix it? Rob. Edit /etc/rc.conf, change the line the says CLOCK=UTC to CLOCK=local. If this doesn't help, please describe a bit more what exactly the clock is doing. In particular: 1. Does Linux keep good time once it is set...do the seconds tick by normally? 2. If 1 is yes, then shutdown the system and check the BIOS. Does it show the correct time? 3. If 2 is yes, then boot into Linux again. Is the time correct? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Clock going Crazy
Thank you!!! My rc.conf file contained no CLOCK= line, so I missed it. This seems like it was overlooked or a bug in the install process. Now it appears that my Gentoo OS is keeping time. However, it is yet to be seen whether the BIOS keeps its time since it appeared to also be a problem. So I set in /etc/rc.conf CLOCK=local. Many thanks, Rob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going Crazy
On Fri, 20 May 2005 12:10:41 -0700, rob3 wrote: My rc.conf file contained no CLOCK= line, so I missed it. Are you running an ~arch system. In the later baselayouts, clock configuration has moved to /etc/conf.d/clock. -- Neil Bothwick PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms pgp7fARDoeNqr.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
perhaps if you continue to have problems you could give a more thorough explanation of the symptoms. Like, is the clock racing ahead or behind? Is it just set to the wrong time on boot, but goes fine after it is set? On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 11:03 -0700, rob3 wrote: David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote: perhaps if you continue to have problems you could give a more thorough explanation of the symptoms. Like, is the clock racing ahead or behind? Is it just set to the wrong time on boot, but goes fine after it is set? On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 11:03 -0700, rob3 wrote: David D. Rea wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said: I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo problem, or what. I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or has it now. I can't keep the clock on the right time. This Dell 8600 Laptop has a brand new mobo in it. So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead already. Windoze shows the same behavior. Thanks, Rob Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each other?? Dave I don't know. Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\ Thanks! Rob -- Maybe you'll find that intersesting: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/124619 antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
