Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-16 Thread Perenaster
thank you al for your responses! this really helped a lot I will try to
install and use Gentoo as server and I also will contact the gentoo-server
mailinglist if I experienace any problems
Thanks
Tom

2011/6/10 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info

 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 21:29, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Apparently, though unproven, at 15:15 on Friday 10 June 2011, Joost
 Roeleveld
  did opine thusly:
 
  On Friday 10 June 2011 12:13:22 Perenaster wrote:
   Hey,
   I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to
 use
   Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS
   with only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of
   choice. Is it suitable for an server or should I look for an other
   distro?
   Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the
   installation? Thanks in advance,
   Tom
 
  Hi Tom,
 
  Gentoo is quite usable as a Server. I use it as such myself.
 
  Funny think about Gentoo is that it can save you a few MB of disk space
 by
  removing things you don't need.
 
  But it consumes 3GB of disk space to do it.
 

 Heh, I personally don't really care about hard disk usage.

 All I know is, compared to other 'server'-oriented distros (or distro
 variant), Gentoo has the least amount of memory usage :-)

 Rgds,
 --
 Pandu E Poluan
 ~ IT Optimizer ~
 Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com




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[gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-10 Thread Perenaster
Hey,
I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to use
Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS with
only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of choice. Is
it suitable for an server or should I look for an other distro?
Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the installation?
Thanks in advance,
Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:13, Perenaster perenas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hey,
 I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to use
 Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS with
 only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of choice. Is
 it suitable for an server or should I look for an other distro?

You know, we have a mailing list dedicated for those using Gentoo as
servers : gentoo-server

That said...

Depends on your definition of 'suitable'.

If you're more focused on 'only the things I need and nothing else'
a.k.a 'pedal-to-the-metal performance optimized for my system', then
the answer is a resounding : YES

If you want quick and (relatively) painless ( = fast ) updates, then
Gentoo's not really suitable for you.

Unless you want to take the time and pains to learn and implement an
'update server' who will perform the binary package creation.

(imagine trying emerge --update @world for 100 servers)

 Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the installation?

Well, just use the hardened stage3, hardened profile, and hardened sources.

Oh, and config the kernel manually, of course :-)

 Thanks in advance,
 Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-10 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Friday 10 June 2011 12:13:22 Perenaster wrote:
 Hey,
 I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to use
 Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS with
 only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of choice. Is
 it suitable for an server or should I look for an other distro?
 Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the installation?
 Thanks in advance,
 Tom

Hi Tom,

Gentoo is quite usable as a Server. I use it as such myself.

The installation itself is the same wether it's for desktop or server. The 
only difference is which packages you install once it's running.
If you follow the handbook you end up with a working system where you can 
install the software you need/want. What will be missing, compared to most 
other distributions, are things like a graphical desktop.
For a server, this is not necessary and is also not found on my server.

What is usefull to consider is what the server is going to be used for. With 
this, I mean, to consider if using a hardened profile would be advisable. If 
yes, it's best to start with that rather then to convert your installation 
afterwards.

And I'm sure others on this list will have plenty of ideas as well.

--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:15 on Friday 10 June 2011, Joost Roeleveld 
did opine thusly:

 On Friday 10 June 2011 12:13:22 Perenaster wrote:
  Hey,
  I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to use
  Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS
  with only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of
  choice. Is it suitable for an server or should I look for an other
  distro?
  Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the
  installation? Thanks in advance,
  Tom
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 Gentoo is quite usable as a Server. I use it as such myself.

Funny think about Gentoo is that it can save you a few MB of disk space by 
removing things you don't need.

But it consumes 3GB of disk space to do it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation

2011-06-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 21:29, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 15:15 on Friday 10 June 2011, Joost Roeleveld
 did opine thusly:

 On Friday 10 June 2011 12:13:22 Perenaster wrote:
  Hey,
  I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to use
  Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS
  with only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of
  choice. Is it suitable for an server or should I look for an other
  distro?
  Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the
  installation? Thanks in advance,
  Tom

 Hi Tom,

 Gentoo is quite usable as a Server. I use it as such myself.

 Funny think about Gentoo is that it can save you a few MB of disk space by
 removing things you don't need.

 But it consumes 3GB of disk space to do it.


Heh, I personally don't really care about hard disk usage.

All I know is, compared to other 'server'-oriented distros (or distro
variant), Gentoo has the least amount of memory usage :-)

Rgds,
-- 
Pandu E Poluan
~ IT Optimizer ~
Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com