Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a):
 
 Disclaimer: I don't (often) use KDE...
 
 But there is a Settings://Accessibility/Regional  Languages option (or
 similiar).  Have you using that and setting it to Polish?

Can't find it in Gnome. Isn't it a KDE option?

 ... also might want to check your $LANG and $LC_ALL environment
 variables...

Both set to pl_PL.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Bo Ørsted Andresen napisał(a):
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

Thanks, but I've followed these instructions already when was installing
my Gentoo.

 # locale -a

C
pl_PL
POSIX

 # locale

LANG=pl_PL
LC_CTYPE=pl_PL
LC_NUMERIC=pl_PL
LC_TIME=pl_PL
LC_COLLATE=pl_PL
LC_MONETARY=pl_PL
LC_MESSAGES=pl_PL
LC_PAPER=pl_PL
LC_NAME=pl_PL
LC_ADDRESS=pl_PL
LC_TELEPHONE=pl_PL
LC_MEASUREMENT=pl_PL
LC_IDENTIFICATION=pl_PL
LC_ALL=pl_PL

Seems to be as Polish as a Linux can be. And it really is, in fact,
despite those KDE apps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Benno Schulenberg napisał(a):
 Jan Stępień wrote:
 In my
 USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that 
 everywhere?

When posting to international groups I try to use to use UTF-8 to make
it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's easier for us to use the
same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 28 January 2007 15:10:15 Jan Stępień wrote:
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

 Thanks, but I've followed these instructions already when was installing
 my Gentoo.
[SNIP]

I guess I can assume that `locale-gen` doesn't report any errors then. So 
maybe you need to install kde-base/kde-i18n ? I assume your LINGUAS variable 
does include pl? Otherwise adjust it and run `emerge -vDp --newuse world`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Mick
On Sunday 28 January 2007 14:14, Jan Stępień wrote:
 Benno Schulenberg napisał(a):
  Jan Stępień wrote:
  In my
  USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 
  Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that
  everywhere?

 When posting to international groups I try to use to use UTF-8 to make
 it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
 friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's easier for us to use the
 same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
 running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

Why don't you try this in your /etc/locale.gen file and then run again running 
# locale-gen:

=
pl_PL ISO-8859-2
pl_PL UTF-8
...
en_US UTF-8
...
etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Mick napisał(a):
 On Sunday 28 January 2007 14:14, Jan Stępień wrote:
 When posting to international groups I
 try to use to use UTF-8 to make
 it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
 friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's
 easier for us to use the
 same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
 running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

 Why don't you try this in your /etc/locale.gen file and then
 run again running
 # locale-gen:

Because there must be a possibility of using KDE apps under Gnome with
ISO-8859-2. Enabling UTF-8 may be a solution, but it doesn't satisfy me.

By the way, I gave it a try but it doesn't work. I still have got those
rectangles instead of diacriticals.

Regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Bo Ørsted Andresen napisał(a):
 I guess I can assume that `locale-gen` doesn't report any errors then. So 
 maybe you need to install kde-base/kde-i18n ? I assume your LINGUAS variable 
 does include pl? Otherwise adjust it and run `emerge -vDp --newuse world`.

Yes, locale-gen outputs no errors. Installing kde-base/kde-i18n with
pl among my LINGUAS wasn't helpful, however I've noticed something
interesting.

I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

Regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello,

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:07:26PM +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
 I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
 option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
 dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
 characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
 correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
 changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
 window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
 those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
 admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2007 20:09, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
 Hello,

 On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:07:26PM +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
  I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
  option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
  dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
  characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
  correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
  changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
  window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
  those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
  admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

 Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?

He is using GNOME!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:27:02PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?
 
 He is using GNOME!

Ups, sorry. Near hit. Then gnome-control-center? (mistaken by amarok,
which is KDE)

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[gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Jan Stępień
Hi everyone,

Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 15:48 +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
 and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
 environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
 Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
 them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
 but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
 I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 
 Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
 I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
 managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

Disclaimer: I don't (often) use KDE...

But there is a Settings://Accessibility/Regional  Languages option (or
similiar).  Have you using that and setting it to Polish?

... also might want to check your $LANG and $LC_ALL environment
variables...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:48:20 Jan Stępień wrote:
 Despite being a Gnome fan, I've been using few KDE apps, such as Amarok
 and Kile. I've emerged them on my Gentoo desktop with a Gnome
 environment. Unfortunately I'm not able to force a KDE apps to display
 Polish diacritical characters (e.g. ć, ł, ę). All I can see instead of
 them are small rectangles. I've tried to use qtconfig to change fonts
 but it hasn't solve the problem. In my USE flag unicode is disabled.
 I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

 Taking into account that this is an international group, I hope that
 I'll be able to find someone who experienced similar problems and
 managed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

Soo.. if you still have problems the output of:

# locale -a

# locale

?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-27 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Jan Stępień wrote:
 In my
 USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.

Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that 
everywhere?

Benno

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