Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so don't complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and you are happy with it, why change? I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. I haven't done usenet in a while, but when I did I preferred Pan to Knode. While I am a KDE fan, I do find myself using quite a few GTK apps on my KDE desktop. -- Neil Bothwick The considered application of terror is also a form of communication. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Tuesday 23 February 2010 05:42:25 Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Stroller. I've always used pan in preference to knode. I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something? Can't kde4 applications be used on Mac these days?
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? For textual usenet i use mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird. For binary usenet I use net-nntp/bnr2.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:29, Peter Ruskin wrote: ... I've always used pan in preference to knode. Thanks. From the screenshots at http://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/ it looks perfect. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:16, ubiquitous1980 wrote: ... I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something? Can't kde4 applications be used on Mac these days? Perhaps. The Mac Unix experience is that grep and sed and shellscripts and stuff like that are useful. If you just want something small like exiftool then it's easy to make install it. Larger packages with lots of dependencies, though, it's just less hassle to let a native package manager install them under Linux. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote: Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so don't complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and you are happy with it, why change? Well, duh! I'm not really happy with it. Not with all the dependencies. And whilst I see why they're necessary regarding KDE's future direction, I'd prefer to be without them. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode
Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail. I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in X11. I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with. I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing. It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that looks acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4 environment. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Stroller.