Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote:

 Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised  
 don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the  
 whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead  
 of Kmail.

I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so don't
complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and
you are happy with it, why change?

 I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with  
 the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing.
 
 It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative  
 that looks  acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole  
 KDE4 environment.

I haven't done usenet in a while, but when I did I preferred Pan to
Knode. While I am a KDE fan, I do find myself using quite a few GTK apps
on my KDE desktop.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread ubiquitous1980
Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 February 2010 05:42:25 Stroller wrote:
   
 Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised
 don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager -
 use the whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something
 else instead of Kmail.

 I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using
 Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac
 and open Knode in X11.

 I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been
 able to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with.

 I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually
 with the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies
 thing.

 It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an
 alternative that looks  acts just the same, but which isn't part
 of the whole KDE4 environment.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks in advance,

 Stroller.
 

 I've always used pan in preference to knode.

   
I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something?  Can't kde4
applications be used on Mac these days?



Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Stroller
strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised don't try
 using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the whole KDE
 environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead of Kmail.

 I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using Knode for
 a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and open Knode in
 X11.

 I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able to
 find a Mac native client that I'm happy with.

 I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with the
 KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing.

 It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative that
 looks  acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole KDE4
 environment.

 Any suggestions?

For textual usenet i use mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird. For binary
usenet I use net-nntp/bnr2.



Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Stroller


On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:29, Peter Ruskin wrote:

...
I've always used pan in preference to knode.


Thanks. From the screenshots at http://pan.rebelbase.com/screenshots/ 
 it looks perfect.


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Stroller


On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:16, ubiquitous1980 wrote:

...
I don't use knode or usenet, but am I missing something?  Can't kde4
applications be used on Mac these days?


Perhaps.

The Mac Unix experience is that grep and sed and shellscripts and  
stuff like that are useful. If you just want something small like  
exiftool then it's easy to make  install it.


Larger packages with lots of dependencies, though, it's just less  
hassle to let a native package manager install them under Linux.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-23 Thread Stroller


On 23 Feb 2010, at 09:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:25 +, Stroller wrote:


Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised
don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use  
the
whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else  
instead

of Kmail.


I took it more as KDE programs are intended to be run on KDE, so  
don't

complain if they don't work as you want elsewhere. So if it works and
you are happy with it, why change?


Well, duh! I'm not really happy with it. Not with all the  
dependencies. And whilst I see why they're necessary regarding KDE's  
future direction, I'd prefer to be without them.


Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Graphical usenet client - alternative to Knode

2010-02-22 Thread Stroller
Some comments were made recently about KDE4, where it was advised  
don't try using just Kmail under a different window manager - use the  
whole KDE environment, but not single apps. Use something else instead  
of Kmail.


I kept my gob somewhat shut at that time, because I've been using  
Knode for a long time on my headless server. I ssh in from my Mac and  
open Knode in X11.


I guess Usenet isn't so popular these days, and I have never been able  
to find a Mac native client that I'm happy with.


I like Knode's simple 3-pane layout. Knode has improved visually with  
the KDE4 release, but the much debated KDE4 dependencies thing.


It has only just occurred to me today to ask if there's an alternative  
that looks  acts just the same, but which isn't part of the whole  
KDE4 environment.


Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Stroller.