Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
I have this problem with my pc too. I have a razer copperhead, so its not a cheap/crappy mouse problem for me. Best *quick* solution I found was to turn the mouse over when I'm not using it. Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows?
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Saturday 15 November 2008, 21:55, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? Did you try reducing mouse sensitivity? See man xset.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that
the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving.
Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and
forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per
second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can
wake up at seemingly random times.
[ ... ]
So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion.
Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to
ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have
performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page
but I see no clue.
Anybody knows?
Maybe unclutter could do for you...
* x11-misc/unclutter
gentoo: 8-r1 {:0}
installed: 8-r1* {:0}
Description: Hides mouse pointer while not in use.
Homepage:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/X11/contrib/utilities/unclutter-8.README
License: public-domain
Cheers.
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seemant talk to him then :P
spyderous i tried =P
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008, 21:55, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? Did you try reducing mouse sensitivity? See man xset. I know about xset, but its man page does not contain the word sensitivity. I have, though, reduced the resolution of the mouse through the kernel parameter psmouse.resolution=100. It seems to have solved the problem. To have the mouse in a good speed, I have increased acceleration from 2 to 4 and decreased threshold from 4 to 3. This is with a xset mouse 4 3 command that is called when Xfce starts. Two comments: 1) xorg.conf does have a Resolution option, but setting is has no effect. I do have to pass the resolution as a kernel parameter. 2) There should be a way to set acceleration and threshold in xorg.conf. Regards, Jorge Peixoto -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds
[gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 18:55 -0200, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? Yes. What you need to do is write your own mouse driver. Call it 'crappydrv'. In this driver, you detect events sent by the mouse, but then simply ignore them. HTH, -a
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 18:55 -0200, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? Yes. What you need to do is write your own mouse driver. Call it 'crappydrv'. In this driver, you detect events sent by the mouse, but then simply ignore them. I don't know how to write my own driver, and what I want is to dynamically shut up the mouse at runtime, and free it when I come back. Or, ideally, just make X ignore mouse movement for idle time calculations. But you were probably joking anyway... -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Saturday 15 November 2008 22:55:06 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse Yes, this is the best and only thing you could do , but this would cost money So? mouses are cheap. I can buy mouses for the price of a packet of smokes or two beers... and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So how you gonna fix this? You have a broken mouse, it sends broken signals to the machine and the machine reponds brokenly. Here's the only lesson you should learn (becuase this can't be fixed): This mouse is broken. It doesn't do what mouses should do. Mouse, meet dustbin. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
Albert Hopkins schrieb am 15.11.2008 22:15: Yes. What you need to do is write your own mouse driver. Call it 'crappydrv'. In this driver, you detect events sent by the mouse, but then simply ignore them. HTH, -a :D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Samstag 15 November 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008 22:55:06 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse Yes, this is the best and only thing you could do , but this would cost money So? mouses are cheap. I can buy mouses for the price of a packet of smokes or two beers... and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So how you gonna fix this? You have a broken mouse, it sends broken signals to the machine and the machine reponds brokenly. Here's the only lesson you should learn (becuase this can't be fixed): This mouse is broken. It doesn't do what mouses should do. Mouse, meet dustbin. not dustbin! Its switches might be usefull to repair another mouse. But yeah - a new mouse is the best solution.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Samstag 15 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 18:55 -0200, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast (it looks like some 5 times per second). The worst problem caused by this is that the monitor can wake up at seemingly random times. One solution would be to switch off the monitor every time I won't use it for a few minutes, but (AFAIK) this would waste energy and reduce lifetime. I want the DPMS modes of standby, suspend, off. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick read of kernel code and of the xorg.conf man page but I see no clue. Anybody knows? Yes. What you need to do is write your own mouse driver. Call it 'crappydrv'. In this driver, you detect events sent by the mouse, but then simply ignore them. I don't know how to write my own driver, and what I want is to dynamically shut up the mouse at runtime, and free it when I come back. Or, ideally, just make X ignore mouse movement for idle time calculations. But you were probably joking anyway... if it is a usb mouse, disconnect it. Or unload the driver.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
if it is a usb mouse, disconnect it. Or unload the driver. It is PS/2. And if I compile the driver as a module (presently it is built-in) and unload it while X is running, wouldn't the module refuse to unload (as it is being used)? -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. If the mouse not brand new, then it may be full of dust and dirt - assuming it has moving parts at all (i.e it's not a laser or led model) dismantling it and cleaning may help. Another solution would be to buy another mouse, but this would cost money and would not teach me the solution (this problem can manifest again in the future, with this or another computer). Unless the problem is dirt as above, I serious doubt you are going to learn anything (technical) - simply replacing the mouse will be the best solution. I guess the thing to learn is that some computer hardware is so poorly made that it is useless! Cheers Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion
On Samstag 15 November 2008, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: if it is a usb mouse, disconnect it. Or unload the driver. It is PS/2. And if I compile the driver as a module (presently it is built-in) and unload it while X is running, wouldn't the module refuse to unload (as it is being used)? I don't know, I use usb mice - and removing the usb driver works well. So get a new mouse.
