Re: [gentoo-user] Install 2011 Asus thin lappy

2018-12-04 Thread james
On 12/2/18 6:32 PM, Dale wrote:
> james wrote:
>> It has and Icore 5, 4 GB and 124GB SSD. If I can I like to nuke the
>> windows 7 home edition or shrink it way way down, in case I need access
>> on the windows side. It's really nice, sturdy metal case and very, very
>> thin. It has a 13.5 inch screen. Perhaps I need to discover all the
>> hardware particulars before I format of the windows 7 home edition ?
>> Perhaps I just need to leave the W-7 and shrink it up?
>>
>> It only has (2) usb ports and a mini usb port.
>> I have an Asus  usb-to-ethernet, works under window.
>> I'm  not so sure about the bios (EFI) American Megatrends
>> setting to get it to boot.
>>
>> So I was first looking for an easy image to put on a usb 3 drive
>> with a common linux to get the boot settings right, before I try to
>> get it to boot/install gentoo. I'd like a very minimize gentoo linux
>> with a minimized Desktop? Perhaps I should just install and run
>> a linux install design for these old laptops? Perhaps an older
>> SystemRescue usb images to test the boot settings?  I can do an overthe
>> ethernet install if necessary, but would prefer a gentoo-usb install
>> at least for the basic minimize gentoo.
>>
>> Suggests, as my experience with usb linux installs is very weak.
>> A pathway, that is easy to follow, as I might just install several
>> old laptops, if this works
>>
>> So in the  bios the aptio setup utility::
>>
>> Boot Option #1
>> Windows boot manager (po: Sandisk SSD u100 124GB
>> Disabled
>>
>> OR:: ADD new boot Option
>> ...Add boot option
>>  (dialog box with 'add boot option)
>>
>>
>> ...SELECT File system
>>  PCI(1F|2)\DevicePath(Type 3, SubType 12)Part1,sig787(long key sequence)
>>
>>
>> ...PATH for boot option
>>  (just a dialog box for 'path for boot option)
>>
>>
>> ...CREATE
>>  (please set boot option name and file path)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the bios it also has::
>>
>>  Save Changes & Exit
>> "Boot Override
>>
>>  Windows boot mgr
>>
>>  Launch EFI shell from file system device
>>
>>
>> Suggestions, and which instructions to follow (I found several in the
>> gentoo wiki not to mention other gentoo laptop install pages.
>>
>> Perhaps a bios update before beginning?  No, a bad idea?
>>
>> Openboot or another open bios on this old but sturdy laptop?
>>
>> I could just use a live-gentoo rewritable usb 3 (thumb drive) on it and
>> forget the install?
>>
>>
>> All suggestions and references appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I'm pretty clueless about laptops but have one idea.� For something to
> boot from, either Knoppix or sysrescurecd should work.� I think Knoppix
> is still available.� One thing about booting one of those, especially
> sysrescuecd, you can find out what drivers are used to drive what
> components.� I use the command lspci -k myself.� It displays what is
> needed generally.�
> 
> Although sysrescuecd has CD in it, you can burn it to a USB stick as
> well.� That's how I do mine here.� Last one I got was under 600MBs.� It
> should fit just fine even on a 1GB stick.�
> 
> http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/
> 
> It appears Knoppix is still around.
> 
> http://www.knoppix.org/
> 
> Maybe someone else can come along with more ideas.
> 
> Dale
> 

thanks Dale. I'm mostly (RV) off grid now, so post/reply are sporadic.

Anyway, for now, I'm trying to get the bios set to boot off a usb
device. I might just end up adding a dvd on a usb cable and see how that
works. Adding RPi3B+ boards to the rv, for 12vdc lowpower operation.
we'll see how that turns out.

Anyone got a RPi3B+ image I can put on a usb stick to boot the Rpi3B+
directly into a minimal gentoo?   Seems like I ran across one some time
ago, but google searching is slow in the RV world.  Perhaps I could pay
somebody to ship me such an image and usb stick to general delivery,
small remote town usa?  Prepaid?

Rural Texas pony express?
What a hoot life is now.


James

thx,
Jame





Re: [gentoo-user] Install 2011 Asus thin lappy

2018-12-02 Thread Dale
james wrote:
> It has and Icore 5, 4 GB and 124GB SSD. If I can I like to nuke the
> windows 7 home edition or shrink it way way down, in case I need access
> on the windows side. It's really nice, sturdy metal case and very, very
> thin. It has a 13.5 inch screen. Perhaps I need to discover all the
> hardware particulars before I format of the windows 7 home edition ?
> Perhaps I just need to leave the W-7 and shrink it up?
>
> It only has (2) usb ports and a mini usb port.
> I have an Asus  usb-to-ethernet, works under window.
> I'm  not so sure about the bios (EFI) American Megatrends
> setting to get it to boot.
>
> So I was first looking for an easy image to put on a usb 3 drive
> with a common linux to get the boot settings right, before I try to
> get it to boot/install gentoo. I'd like a very minimize gentoo linux
> with a minimized Desktop? Perhaps I should just install and run
> a linux install design for these old laptops? Perhaps an older
> SystemRescue usb images to test the boot settings?  I can do an overthe
> ethernet install if necessary, but would prefer a gentoo-usb install
> at least for the basic minimize gentoo.
>
> Suggests, as my experience with usb linux installs is very weak.
> A pathway, that is easy to follow, as I might just install several
> old laptops, if this works
>
> So in the  bios the aptio setup utility::
>
> Boot Option #1
> Windows boot manager (po: Sandisk SSD u100 124GB
> Disabled
>
> OR:: ADD new boot Option
> ...Add boot option
>   (dialog box with 'add boot option)
>
>
> ...SELECT File system
>   PCI(1F|2)\DevicePath(Type 3, SubType 12)Part1,sig787(long key sequence)
>
>
> ...PATH for boot option
>   (just a dialog box for 'path for boot option)
>
>
> ...CREATE
>   (please set boot option name and file path)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In the bios it also has::
>
>  Save Changes & Exit
> "Boot Override
>
>   Windows boot mgr
>
>   Launch EFI shell from file system device
>
>
> Suggestions, and which instructions to follow (I found several in the
> gentoo wiki not to mention other gentoo laptop install pages.
>
> Perhaps a bios update before beginning?  No, a bad idea?
>
> Openboot or another open bios on this old but sturdy laptop?
>
> I could just use a live-gentoo rewritable usb 3 (thumb drive) on it and
> forget the install?
>
>
> All suggestions and references appreciated.
>
>
>


I'm pretty clueless about laptops but have one idea.  For something to
boot from, either Knoppix or sysrescurecd should work.  I think Knoppix
is still available.  One thing about booting one of those, especially
sysrescuecd, you can find out what drivers are used to drive what
components.  I use the command lspci -k myself.  It displays what is
needed generally. 

Although sysrescuecd has CD in it, you can burn it to a USB stick as
well.  That's how I do mine here.  Last one I got was under 600MBs.  It
should fit just fine even on a 1GB stick. 

http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/

It appears Knoppix is still around.

http://www.knoppix.org/

Maybe someone else can come along with more ideas.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Install 2011 Asus thin lappy

2018-12-02 Thread james
It has and Icore 5, 4 GB and 124GB SSD. If I can I like to nuke the
windows 7 home edition or shrink it way way down, in case I need access
on the windows side. It's really nice, sturdy metal case and very, very
thin. It has a 13.5 inch screen. Perhaps I need to discover all the
hardware particulars before I format of the windows 7 home edition ?
Perhaps I just need to leave the W-7 and shrink it up?

It only has (2) usb ports and a mini usb port.
I have an Asus  usb-to-ethernet, works under window.
I'm  not so sure about the bios (EFI) American Megatrends
setting to get it to boot.

So I was first looking for an easy image to put on a usb 3 drive
with a common linux to get the boot settings right, before I try to
get it to boot/install gentoo. I'd like a very minimize gentoo linux
with a minimized Desktop? Perhaps I should just install and run
a linux install design for these old laptops? Perhaps an older
SystemRescue usb images to test the boot settings?  I can do an overthe
ethernet install if necessary, but would prefer a gentoo-usb install
at least for the basic minimize gentoo.

Suggests, as my experience with usb linux installs is very weak.
A pathway, that is easy to follow, as I might just install several
old laptops, if this works

So in the  bios the aptio setup utility::

Boot Option #1
Windows boot manager (po: Sandisk SSD u100 124GB
Disabled

OR:: ADD new boot Option
...Add boot option
(dialog box with 'add boot option)


...SELECT File system
PCI(1F|2)\DevicePath(Type 3, SubType 12)Part1,sig787(long key sequence)


...PATH for boot option
(just a dialog box for 'path for boot option)


...CREATE
(please set boot option name and file path)







In the bios it also has::

 Save Changes & Exit
"Boot Override

Windows boot mgr

Launch EFI shell from file system device


Suggestions, and which instructions to follow (I found several in the
gentoo wiki not to mention other gentoo laptop install pages.

Perhaps a bios update before beginning?  No, a bad idea?

Openboot or another open bios on this old but sturdy laptop?

I could just use a live-gentoo rewritable usb 3 (thumb drive) on it and
forget the install?


All suggestions and references appreciated.