Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 10/05/06 12:55: For some strange reason, on my system OpenOffice seems to need the locale set to utf8 to work properly with international keyboard layouts. Without it, the ' and keys are dead, working only with AltGr pressed. I don't understand why, but since I changed my locale to en_US.utf8, the quote keys and Open Office work perfectly. Does this not work for you (# means run as root, $ means run as user)? # localedef -i en_GB -f ISO-8859-15 en_GB.ISO-8859-15 $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2 The LC_ALL command above did not work, giving the following error messages: I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale en_GB.ISO-8859-15 Qt: Locales not supported on X server Checked out my defined locales with locale -a C en_GB en_GB.iso885915 en_GB.utf8 en_US en_US.iso885915 en_US.utf8 POSIX LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine. In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does needs a local other the C or POSIX. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
On Thursday 11 May 2006 12:53, Dave Jones wrote: $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2 The LC_ALL command above did not work, giving the following error messages: I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale en_GB.ISO-8859-15 Qt: Locales not supported on X server Checked out my defined locales with locale -a [SNIP] LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine. In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does needs a local other the C or POSIX. Which is what I stated on the 4th of May. :) But en_GB.ISO-8859-15 works for me too even though locale -a report en_GB.iso885915 on my computer too. I guess that depends on the version of glibc.. Anyway nice to know it works for you now. :) -- Bo Andresen pgp5oUi7LKkyn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 11/05/06 13:17: LC_ALL=en_GB.iso885915 oowriter2works fine. In fact, all the above locales except for C and POSIX work fine in OpenOffice. It seems that OOo does not depend on a utf8 locale, but does needs a local other the C or POSIX. Which is what I stated on the 4th of May. :) But en_GB.ISO-8859-15 works for me too even though locale -a report en_GB.iso885915 on my computer too. I guess that depends on the version of glibc.. Anyway nice to know it works for you now. :) I'm using glibc-2.3.6-r3 (stable branch). Your statement on May 4 was correct, and believe me, I'm very glad that the problem is solved here! Pawel has not reported back from my last suggestion of trying to use the us_intl keyboard layout. It would be nice if that solved his problems with his Polish locale/keyboard too. I still find it strange that OOo is the only application I have which needs a locale other than C or POSIX defined. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
On Thursday 04 May 2006 15:29, Dave Jones wrote: I didn't get these errors when I ran the oowriter2 command above, so I guess my localdef for the en_GB.utf8 must have been OK. Case closed, an irritating problem fixed. From another thread: On Tuesday 09 May 2006 20:31, Dave Jones wrote: For some strange reason, on my system OpenOffice seems to need the locale set to utf8 to work properly with international keyboard layouts. Without it, the ' and keys are dead, working only with AltGr pressed. I don't understand why, but since I changed my locale to en_US.utf8, the quote keys and Open Office work perfectly. Does this not work for you (# means run as root, $ means run as user)? # localedef -i en_GB -f ISO-8859-15 en_GB.ISO-8859-15 $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2 -- Bo Andresen pgp7jTMR4TFw9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 10/05/06 12:55: On Tuesday 09 May 2006 20:31, Dave Jones wrote: For some strange reason, on my system OpenOffice seems to need the locale set to utf8 to work properly with international keyboard layouts. Without it, the ' and keys are dead, working only with AltGr pressed. I don't understand why, but since I changed my locale to en_US.utf8, the quote keys and Open Office work perfectly. Does this not work for you (# means run as root, $ means run as user)? # localedef -i en_GB -f ISO-8859-15 en_GB.ISO-8859-15 $ LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-15 oowriter2 No, it doesn't work, I get these error messages when I try to start oowriter2: I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale en_GB.ISO-8859-15 Qt: Locales not supported on X server The accented keys don't work either with this setup. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 05/04/06 00:48: It turns out I was wrong about this. If I type # LC_ALL=POSIX oowriter2 they don't work for me either. Same goes for LC_ALL=C. All other locales on your list from locale -a they do work with. (Except en_GB.utf8 which results in a lot of errors on my system. That's why I use en_US.utf8. If you do wish to use UTF-8 you should follow the guide provided by Gentoo). So try changing your locale to something other than POSIX or C i.e. export LC_ALL=whatever. And start OOo from the prompt. To change your locale permanently you should change /etc/env.d/02locale and run env-update. You only need to set LC_ALL it will all other LC_ variables. Bo, thank you *very* much, starting oowriter2 as you suggested using LC_All=en_US.utf8 oowriter2 worked, the us_intl keyboard now works as it should. I have no /etc/env.d/02locale file; did you create that file yourself? Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
On Thursday 04 May 2006 11:17, Dave Jones wrote: Bo, thank you *very* much, starting oowriter2 as you suggested using LC_All=en_US.utf8 oowriter2 worked, the us_intl keyboard now works as it should. Glad to hear that. :) I have no /etc/env.d/02locale file; did you create that file yourself? Yes, just create a file with the contents: LC_ALL=whatever Look at [1] and [2] for more information on locales on Gentoo. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml -- Bo Andresen pgphsoHobO0Et.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 04/05/06 11:32: On Thursday 04 May 2006 11:17, Dave Jones wrote: Bo, thank you *very* much, starting oowriter2 as you suggested using LC_All=en_US.utf8 oowriter2 worked, the us_intl keyboard now works as it should. Glad to hear that. :) What's more, it seems to work fine with LC_ALL=en_GB.utf8 too. As a matter of curiosity, what errors did you get when you tried en_GB.utf8 on your system? I have no /etc/env.d/02locale file; did you create that file yourself? Yes, just create a file with the contents: LC_ALL=whatever OK, done that, it's working perfectly now. Look at [1] and [2] for more information on locales on Gentoo. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Will do, to check out any extra information available there. Again, thank you both very much. Your and Jerônimo's help and advice solved an obscure problem which has annoyed me for months. The Gentoo user community has yet again proven to be a great place to finding helpful and knowledgeable people, adding to the many strengths of the distro. Glad to be part of it! Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
On Thursday 04 May 2006 12:08, Dave Jones wrote: As a matter of curiosity, what errors did you get when you tried en_GB.utf8 on your system? $ LC_ALL=en_GB.utf8 oowriter2 perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = en_GB.utf8, LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale IIRC back when I followed the UTF-8 guide localedef complained that some data for creating the en_GB.UTF-8 locale was missing. It seems that the issue has been resolved since then. The following command fixed the problem so en_GB.utf8 is working for me too now: # localedef -i en_GB -f UTF-8 en_GB.UTF-8 -- Bo Andresen pgp3bNdR1D0qE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems [solved]
Bo Andresen wrote on 04/05/06 12:44: On Thursday 04 May 2006 12:08, Dave Jones wrote: As a matter of curiosity, what errors did you get when you tried en_GB.utf8 on your system? $ LC_ALL=en_GB.utf8 oowriter2 perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = en_GB.utf8, LANG = (unset) are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale IIRC back when I followed the UTF-8 guide localedef complained that some data for creating the en_GB.UTF-8 locale was missing. It seems that the issue has been resolved since then. The following command fixed the problem so en_GB.utf8 is working for me too now: # localedef -i en_GB -f UTF-8 en_GB.UTF-8 I didn't get these errors when I ran the oowriter2 command above, so I guess my localdef for the en_GB.utf8 must have been OK. Case closed, an irritating problem fixed. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 00:04: What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE. Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1? Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5? Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Dave Jones wrote: Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 00:04: What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE. Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1? Here goes the documentation about UTF-8 with Gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Replace anything related to UTF-8 with ISO-8859-1 on your system. Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5? Cheers, Dave I'm with KDE 3.5.2 and everything is working okay. Cheers, Jerônimo. ___ Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail: 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. kontact, konquerer, konsole..). -- Bo Andresen pgpsr03XMKDtt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/03/06 14:21: What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8 with KDE. Could you please tell me how I can check if KDE is using UTF-8, or how I can force KDE to use ISO-8859-1? Here goes the documentation about UTF-8 with Gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml Replace anything related to UTF-8 with ISO-8859-1 on your system. Uh oh, looks like a major rework. Should keep me out of mischief! Are you running KDE 3.4.3, or KDE 3.5? I'm with KDE 3.5.2 and everything is working okay. It's probably time I moved on to KDE 3.5.2 anyway. Thank you very much for all your help, much appreciated! Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 14:31: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. kontact, konquerer, konsole..). This came out of my original question about having problems with typing accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3. The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters into an OOo document. Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbModel logicdp Option XkbLayout us_intl EndSection Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into all other applications apart from OOo under KDE. OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:13, Dave Jones wrote: Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 14:31: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. kontact, konquerer, konsole..). This came out of my original question about having problems with typing accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3. The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters into an OOo document. Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbModel logicdp Option XkbLayout us_intl EndSection Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into all other applications apart from OOo under KDE. OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue. I still don't see that it has got anything to do with UFT-8. My X configuration looks like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout dk EndSection In kcontrol - Regional Accessibility - Keyboard Layout there is a box called Enable keyboards layouts. This overrides the X settings. So if it works in IceWM just disable it. That's what I did. And I have no problems with any of those characters (áàéèíìóòöuúù€') in Openoffice either. -- Bo Andresen pgpKCsyU59I5R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 16:06: snip KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no issues. This came out of my original question about having problems with typing accented characters into OpenOffice documents under KDE 3.4.3. The problem is that I need to press AltGr and the quote character to obtain a quote. This makes it impossible to enter accented characters into an OOo document. Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbModel logicdp Option XkbLayout us_intl EndSection Using this xorg.conf set-up, I can enter the accented characters into all other applications apart from OOo under KDE. OOo works fine under IceWM, so I'd guess that it's a KDE issue. I still don't see that it has got anything to do with UFT-8. My X configuration looks like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout dk EndSection In kcontrol - Regional Accessibility - Keyboard Layout there is a box called Enable keyboards layouts. This overrides the X settings. So if it works in IceWM just disable it. That's what I did. And I have no problems with any of those characters (áàéèíìóòöuúù€') in Openoffice either. I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and disabled. No difference. The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed in OOo, but work normally in all other applications. I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either. If anything, the Regional Keyboard setting make the problem worse, affecting other applications too, so I disabled it again. As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8. Here's the output of locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=POSIX LC_NUMERIC=POSIX LC_TIME=POSIX LC_COLLATE=POSIX LC_MONETARY=POSIX LC_MESSAGES=POSIX LC_PAPER=POSIX LC_NAME=POSIX LC_ADDRESS=POSIX LC_TELEPHONE=POSIX LC_MEASUREMENT=POSIX LC_IDENTIFICATION=POSIX LC_ALL= and locale -a C POSIX en_GB en_GB.iso885915 en_GB.utf8 en_US en_US.iso885915 en_US.utf8 Maybe it's not an UTF-8 issue as Jerônimo suggested it might be, but I'm baffled by this odd kb behaviour showing only in OOo under KDE. Could you please show the output of locale and locale -a on your system? Cheers, Dave. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Bo Andresen wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 00:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote: Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. What kind of issues? Admittedly I have not tested KDE throughly but I have been using KDE with UTF-8 for a few months now and I have experienced no issues. There are programs that don't understand UTF-8 on my system (e.g. kompare) but I believe most og my KDE programs do understand UTF-8 (e.g. kontact, konquerer, konsole..). I mean issues with some keyboard layouts. Try to type some cedillas with a US-keyboard (combining ' and c ) in KDE with UTF-8 to see what you'll get. ___ Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail: 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 18:04, Jerônimo Backes wrote: I mean issues with some keyboard layouts. Try to type some cedillas with a US-keyboard (combining ' and c ) in KDE with UTF-8 to see what you'll get. Do you mean like this: ç? I use a danish keyboard layout and have no idea how to produce that character. This one was created in OOo by Insert Special Character (and copy'n'paste). I did try naming a file with that character and putting it in its contents and found no issues. But I don't know if that was what you meant. Anyway I'm not saying that there are no issues. I just haven't experienced any. -- Bo Andresen pgpMsR5keXsDu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 17:26, Dave Jones wrote: I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and disabled. No difference. The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed in OOo, but work normally in all other applications. I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either. If anything, the Regional Keyboard setting make the problem worse, affecting other applications too, so I disabled it again. The us_intl keyboard layout is shown in [1]. Your problem related to the red (i.e. dead) keys to the left of Enter, right? I have changed to that layout now (with no KDE override) and it seems to work the way it should here now. I'm not sure it did before I changed the contents of /etc/conf.d/keymaps. What does this show? # grep -vr '^#\|^$' /etc/conf.d/keymaps [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International Since the keys are dead you do have to press them twice in order to just get a single or double quote. If followed by a letter are able to produce accents (ó) or umlauts (ö) instead. And just for the record. I can produce a ç now. I don't seem to have any issues. But still a haven't tested with a broad range of programs. ;) As far as I know, I'm not using UTF-8. You are not. [SNIP] Maybe it's not an UTF-8 issue as Jerônimo suggested it might be, but I'm baffled by this odd kb behaviour showing only in OOo under KDE. Could you please show the output of locale and locale -a on your system? Sure. # locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.utf8 LC_TIME=en_US.utf8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8 LC_MONETARY=en_US.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8 LC_PAPER=en_US.utf8 LC_NAME=en_US.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.utf8 LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 # locale -a C da_DK en_DK en_DK.iso88591 en_DK.utf8 en_GB en_GB.ansix341968 en_GB.iso88591 en_US en_US.utf8 POSIX But I don't really think this is the problem. -- Bo Andresen pgpu9kjxGQbdX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Bo Andresen wrote on 05/03/06 19:39: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 17:26, Dave Jones wrote: I've tried with the kcontrol Regional Keyboard settings enabled and disabled. No difference. The quote keys work only with AltGr pressed in OOo, but work normally in all other applications. I tried using XkbModel to pc105 to see if the Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro XkbModel was causing the odd effect. However, changing that did not change the weird quote keys kb behaviour either. The us_intl keyboard layout is shown in [1]. Your problem related to the red (i.e. dead) keys to the left of Enter, right? That's correct. Didn't want to say right, too confusing! What does this show? # grep -vr '^#\|^$' /etc/conf.d/keymaps KEYMAP=us SET_WINDOWKEYS=yes EXTENDED_KEYMAPS=backspace keypad euro DUMPKEYS_CHARSET= [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International Since the keys are dead you do have to press them twice in order to just get a single or double quote. If followed by a letter are able to produce accents (ó) or umlauts (ö) instead. And just for the record. I can produce a ç now. I don't seem to have any issues. But still a haven't tested with a broad range of programs. ;) I can hit the quote keys ten times and still produce no input at all when running OOo. With other applications (such as Thunderbird) it works perfectly well. That's what is so strange, it's only OOo which shows the anomalous behaviour, only under KDE, not under IceWM. Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
Jerônimo Backes wrote on 05/01/06 23:14: I'm running a compiled from source Open Office 2.01-r1 and am having problems getting OOo to accept input of accented, single and double quote characters under KDE 3.4.3. KDE overrides Xorg configs. Just open the KDE's Control Center, select Regional Accessibility, then Keyboard Layout and then, select your keyboard and its variant. That should do the trick. Mine is US English, with intl variant. Thanks for your help Jerônimo. I tried your tip, using all sorts of keyboard layouts (Generic 101 / 104 / 105 key, Logitech Cordless + Cordless Pro), US English, with or without international variant/dead characters, but no joy so far. The quote and double quote keys still work only with the AltGr key pressed. With some of the above combinations the AltGr key completely stopped working. I couldn't even get an € sign with AltGr-5, let alone quotes or accented characters! What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. So I'm still stuck with this irritating problem... Cheers, Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
I tried your tip, using all sorts of keyboard layouts (Generic 101 / 104 / 105 key, Logitech Cordless + Cordless Pro), US English, with or without international variant/dead characters, but no joy so far. What seems odd is that OpenOffice is the only application affected, while all other applications work correctly under KDE. So I'm still stuck with this irritating problem... Oh, I forgot to mention: DON'T use UTF-8 with KDE if you need to use some special keyboard layouts. Stay with ISO-8859-1 (the default encoding). KDE has issues with UTF-8 and certain keboard layouts. ___ Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail: 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
I'm running a compiled from source Open Office 2.01-r1 and am having problems getting OOo to accept input of accented, single and double quote characters under KDE 3.4.3. KDE overrides Xorg configs. Just open the KDE's Control Center, select Regional Accessibility, then Keyboard Layout and then, select your keyboard and its variant. That should do the trick. Mine is US English, with intl variant. Cheers. ___ Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail: 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. http://br.info.mail.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE and OpenOffice keyboard problems
I'm running a compiled from source Open Office 2.01-r1 and am having
problems getting OOo to accept input of accented, single and double
quote characters under KDE 3.4.3.
If I use IceWM, typing these characters works fine in OOo.
I have CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and
LINGUAS=en en_GB in my /etc/make.conf Nothing startling there.
I'm running xorg-X11 version 6.8.2-r6, KDE version 3.4.3, Open Office
2.01-r1, all packages from the stable branch.
In my /etc/xorg.conf I have the following entries for my keyboard:
Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver kbd
Option AutoRepeat500 30
Option XkbModel logicdp
Option XkbLayout us_intl
EndSection
Being an old-fashioned Brit I have set up OOo to default to British
English. However, as I live in Europe, I use a Logitech Cordless Desktop
Pro US International keyboard, set to US International under KDE 3.4.3.
I do not use UTF-8 for character encoding, but default to ISO-8859-15,
to allow me to use the 'special' accented characters and the Euro sign.
OOo does not recognise either single quote (') or double quote ()
unless I press the AltGr key (right Alt key). I cannot compose accented
characters such as áàéèíìóòöuúù. The € sign works as expected with a
US-international keyboard, using AltGr 5.
I tried setting OOo to US English, but this did not resolve the problem.
OOo stubbornly ignores both single and double quotes unless the AltGr
key is pressed.
Normally in 'US International' mode, both single and double quotes are
produced using the quote key and a space. Applications such as Mozilla
Thunderbird handle these quote characters correctly using the above
keyboard set up. Only OOo ignores these keystrokes combinations.
To persuade OOo to enter single or double quotes I have to use the
Alt-Gr key and ' or . Strange indeed, OOo is the only application
which behaves like this under KDE.
Setting the xorg.conf Option XkbVariant deadkeys as suggested in
the OOo documentation does not change the quote keys behaviour in OOo.
I'm totally bewildered as to why OOo behaves so strangely under KDE,
while working perfectly under (for example) IceWM.
Has anyone else encountered this problem, or better still, have a work
round or solution for it?
Cheers, Dave.
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