[gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
Built KDE4 last night, it took about 4.5 hours total and built without failures. To be safe, I created a new user for testing purposes and logged out of my own account. I use entrance as my dm and I find an entry for kde-4 in the list of sessions available. So far so good. First impression: kde4 starts up fast. I had gotten used to waiting up to 30 seconds for the splash screen to get through everything it needs to. Konsole works, both 3.5 and 4.0 I don;t get the slow scrolling issue another user reported. Konqueror works, now I have to recreate my custom settings that I have grown used to. Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? kopete, amarok all work. The oxygen theme is a vast improvement over Plastik. I'm still undecided about the default menu, it looks a little in the style of XP which I can't stand. I know it''s not the same and maybe just a knee-jerk so I'm holding off before coming to an opinion. All in all, a very nice point-0 point-0 release. After using it for a few hours, I can understand what all the hype was about :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:42:17 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still undecided about the default menu, it looks a little in the style of XP which I can't stand. I know it''s not the same and maybe just a knee-jerk so I'm holding off before coming to an opinion. Um, it looks nothing like XP's -- Vista would be an apter comparison. (The KMenu in KDE 3 definitely resembled XP though.) KDE has always taken after Windows in a lot of design choices anyway. Brian signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Monday 21 January 2008 09:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? erm... kdepim (including kontact and kmail) wasn't released with kde 4.0.0 at all... -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alan McKinnon wrote: | All in all, a very nice point-0 point-0 release. After using it for a | few hours, I can understand what all the hype was about :-) So, any screenshots of your experience? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman The Charlie Protas Project is on its way Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHleDtAlpOsGhXcE0RCv5wAJ0d3gajLA8HwQrFhJtMd100XeGTIQCdGPda xFnEwIlXFETbV3H1AF2MzaA= =F+HK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
Alan McKinnon wrote: I used to have a ~/kde symlink to ~/kde3.5. This is now gone and replaced with a ~/kde directory, apparently a snapshot of the original. Some of my configs are changed - my Transport setting in Kmail were gone (I had a backup), and the Go menu in Konqueror now only displays History and Most Often Visited items. My mail folders now appear to be out of sync, there are updates in ~/kde and in ~/kde3.5 dated after I changed things back. No further detail yet, it'll take a while to scan everythign and see where the changes are. Meanwhile I have work to do :-) Should a person make a backup of their ~/.kde directory before trying KDE 4.0? Maybe change the directory to .kde.old or something? Your thoughts? Oh, I got it downloaded and it is compiling now. What a download tho. LOL Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
Alan McKinnon wrote: All in all, a very nice point-0 point-0 release. After using it for a few hours, I can understand what all the hype was about :-) It does grow on you and it is an excellent step forward. That said, I can't wait to see this get polished off and fully fleshed out. I dearly miss all the tweaker bits ! :') -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008, Dale wrote: Should a person make a backup of their ~/.kde directory before trying KDE 4.0? Maybe change the directory to .kde.old or something? yes, but gentoo's kde will create a new (and empty) .kde4 dir for you. More surprising was that kde4 cleaned all the stuff in /var/tmp - 2gb of cached http stuff gone -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008, Dale wrote: Should a person make a backup of their ~/.kde directory before trying KDE 4.0? Maybe change the directory to .kde.old or something? yes, but gentoo's kde will create a new (and empty) .kde4 dir for you. More surprising was that kde4 cleaned all the stuff in /var/tmp - 2gb of cached http stuff gone Sounds like changing is not going to matter but I'll make a backup just in case. Do you mean EVERYTHING in /var/tmp or just the kde stuff? Mine is nowhere near that big. Just a few Mbs or so. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
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On Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008, Dale wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008, Dale wrote: Should a person make a backup of their ~/.kde directory before trying KDE 4.0? Maybe change the directory to .kde.old or something? yes, but gentoo's kde will create a new (and empty) .kde4 dir for you. More surprising was that kde4 cleaned all the stuff in /var/tmp - 2gb of cached http stuff gone Sounds like changing is not going to matter but I'll make a backup just in case. Do you mean EVERYTHING in /var/tmp or just the kde stuff? Mine is nowhere near that big. Just a few Mbs or so. only the kde stuff. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 08:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? Does that mean that I will get a working kmail if I emerge it as part of kontact, but not if I emerge it on its own? No, it means that if you run kmail stand-alone it doesn't even show up on the screen. If you run it without kontact it seems to work. This has nothing to do with how you compiled it. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Monday 21 January 2008 08:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? Does that mean that I will get a working kmail if I emerge it as part of kontact, but not if I emerge it on its own? -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Tuesday 22 January 2008 15:13:18 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 08:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? Does that mean that I will get a working kmail if I emerge it as part of kontact, but not if I emerge it on its own? Ok, sorry - I hadn't read the whole of the thread. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On 22 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 08:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? Does that mean that I will get a working kmail if I emerge it as part of kontact, but not if I emerge it on its own? No, it means that if you run kmail stand-alone it doesn't even show up on the screen. If you run it without kontact it seems to work. With kontact he means. Unfortunately not for me yet. Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 first impressions
On Jan 22, 2008 7:19 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 08:42:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Kontact works properly and so does the kmail component. kmail on it's own does not work. wtf is up with that anyway? Does that mean that I will get a working kmail if I emerge it as part of kontact, but not if I emerge it on its own? No, it means that if you run kmail stand-alone it doesn't even show up on the screen. If you run it without kontact it seems to work. snip Interesting - out of curiosity, what messages do you get if you just type kmail at a konsole? -James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
