Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem : more

2014-12-31 Thread Philip Webb
141229 Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.

I've investigated further  the problem remains.
It occurred to me that it was perhaps being caused by importing a text file
/or that the original import  PDF had been done by OpenOffice  3 ya .
However, apostrophes  extended dashes are mangled as shown above
even when I enter a completely new .odt file.  I've tried changing the font
 using the PDF dialog under 'File', but the bad effect still happens.

This has to be a bug in LO : whatever the characters in the .odt ,
LO sb able to reproduce them correctly in the exported PDF .
It appears that I don't have a bug account with LO, so I've applied for one
 after checking whether anyone else has run into it, will report it.

Any further suggestions by Gentoo users are very welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem : more

2014-12-31 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
 141229 Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.
 I've investigated further  the problem remains.
 It occurred to me that it was perhaps being caused by importing a text file
 /or that the original import  PDF had been done by OpenOffice  3 ya .
 However, apostrophes  extended dashes are mangled as shown above
 even when I enter a completely new .odt file.  I've tried changing the font
  using the PDF dialog under 'File', but the bad effect still happens.

 This has to be a bug in LO : whatever the characters in the .odt ,
 LO sb able to reproduce them correctly in the exported PDF .
 It appears that I don't have a bug account with LO, so I've applied for one
  after checking whether anyone else has run into it, will report it.

 Any further suggestions by Gentoo users are very welcome.



I'm clueless but could it be a missing font issue?? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem : bug report

2014-12-31 Thread Philip Webb
141231 Philip Webb wrote:
 141229 Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
 I've investigated further  the problem remains.
 It occurred to me that it was perhaps being caused by importing a text file
 /or that the original import  PDF had been done by OpenOffice  3 ya .
 However, apostrophes  extended dashes are mangled as shown above
 even when I enter a completely new .odt file.  I've tried changing the font
  using the PDF dialog under 'File', but the bad effect still happens.
 This has to be a bug in LO : whatever the characters in the .odt ,
 LO sb able to reproduce them correctly in the exported PDF .
 It appears that I don't have a bug account with LO, so I've applied for one
  after checking whether anyone else has run into it, will report it.

I've submitted LibreOffice Bug 87903 .

Can anyone else reproduce this ?

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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
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TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




[gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem

2014-12-29 Thread Philip Webb
I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
 cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
 http://www.chass.utoronto/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.

Can anyone offer an explanation or some way to fix the problem ?

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem

2014-12-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/12/2014 11:03, Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.
 
 Can anyone offer an explanation or some way to fix the problem ?
 


Those links do not work

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Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem

2014-12-29 Thread Philip Webb
141229 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 29/12/2014 11:03, Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.
 Can anyone offer an explanation or some way to fix the problem ?
 Those links do not work.

Thanks : corrected above (red face).  Also Libreoffice 4.3.4.1 .

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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
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TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem

2014-12-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/12/2014 14:16, Philip Webb wrote:
 141229 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 29/12/2014 11:03, Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.
 Can anyone offer an explanation or some way to fix the problem ?
 Those links do not work.
 
 Thanks : corrected above (red face).  Also Libreoffice 4.3.4.1 .
 



At first glance I'd say you enabled Smart quotes in libreoffice
sometime in the last 3 years, and it's now mangling apostrophes and
dashes into something clever.

Tools - AutoCorrect Options - Options



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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice PDF conversion problem

2014-12-29 Thread Philip Webb
141229 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 29/12/2014 14:16, Philip Webb wrote:
 I want to revise the 1st page of a PDF on my Internet site.
 The original was created by Libreoffice c 3 years ago
  cb found at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/nt/mark-notes.pdf .
 The revision I created today has mangled some of the punctuation :
  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/mark-notes.pdf .
 I used the same .odt file in both cases, with small revisions in the 2nd,
 but few, if any, of them affecting the punctuation which has been damaged.
 I'd say you enabled Smart quotes in Libreoffice sometime since 2011
 and it's now mangling apostrophes and dashes into something clever :
 try  Tools - AutoCorrect Options - Options .

Thanks for the pointer.  Wasn't it still Open Office back then ?
Perhaps when it changed to LibreOffice, default settings were altered.

There were basically  3  problems : (1) the elided dash was mangled,
so I told it not to elide  replaced all instances with '--' ;
(2) it was using some bizarre  ' , which was also getting mangled,
so I manually (with some search/replace) replaced all instances
with something which avoided the symbol, while expanding abbreviations.
After some work, I believe I've found them all,
but will wait till tomorrow before uploading it to the I/net.

The problem isn't a simple general setting, so it mb a LO bug,
but I don't have the time to take it up there.

-- 
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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca