Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-22 Thread covici
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 wraeth wrote:
 
 
  On 22/05/14 07:37, Alex Schuster wrote:
   Does this ring any bells? I'm out of ideas. Except than pulling out
 the 4
   GB, or trying another mainboard.
 
  Just a quick suggestion to help rule it out: try booting a LiveCD or other
  one-size-fits-most medium and seeing if your full memory is registering
  there. If it is, then it's not a hardware malfunction; if it doesn't, then
  either you've got bad hardware or a configuration issue in your BIOS.
 
  cheers
  wraeth
 
 
 Isn't there a kernel setting that cuts off after 4GBs or something?  I
 seem to recall having to turn that on at some point.  I would think this
 would be on by default but . . . .

Make sure you are really running a 64-bit kernel!  Sure seems like you
are not to me, but there may be other things.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-22 Thread Daniel Troeder
Am 21.05.2014 23:37, schrieb Alex Schuster:
 Hi there!
 
 So I installed another 4 GiB RAM into a Gentoo amd64 system that had 4 GiB
 already. But it still sees only 4 GiB, not 8 GiB:
 
 leela ~ # uname -a
 Linux leela 3.6.11-gentoo #3 SMP Mon Feb 4 15:37:48 CET 2013 x86_64 AMD
 A6-3500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 
 
 leela ~ #
 free -m total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:  3688   3269419  0108   1050
 -/+ buffers/cache:   2110   1577
 Swap: 2047 54   1993
 
 Huh? Any idea why this is? The BIOS shows the full 8GiB, and lshw finds
 it. dmidecode shows that 8G should work:
 
 leela ~ # dmidecode -t 16
 # dmidecode 2.11
 SMBIOS 2.7 present.
 
 Handle 0x0008, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
 Physical Memory Array
 Location: System Board Or Motherboard
 Use: System Memory
 Error Correction Type: None
 Maximum Capacity: 8 GB
 Error Information Handle: Not Provided
 Number Of Devices: 2
 
 In case this helps, I uploaded the outputs of dmesg [1], lshw -c memory
 [2] and full dmidecode output [3]. The dmesg output is somewhat weird
 though, it has several 'vmalloc: allocation failure: 0 bytes' entries. I
 suspected those were causing the problem, but I found that I needed to
 activate CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y, and they are gone. But still only 4 GiB RAM.
 The system is using an old kernel right now, so I cannot get the current
 dmesg, sorry for this.
 
 Probably related: Since I inserted this 2nd RAM module, wakeup
 from hibernate-ram does no longer work.
 
 Does this ring any bells? I'm out of ideas. Except than pulling out the 4
 GB, or trying another mainboard.
 
 [1] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/lshw.txt
 [2] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/dmesg.txt
 [3] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/dmidecode.txt
 
   Wonko
 
To be sure, that the new RAM isn't broken, try booting with only the new
RAM inserted in the 1st slot. If it works, insert the old RAM into the
2nd slot and see if the problem persists.

Good luck
Daniel


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Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 May 2014 20:38:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Isn't there a kernel setting that cuts off after 4GBs or something?  I
 seem to recall having to turn that on at some point.  I would think this
 would be on by default but . . . .

That's only in 32 bit kernels AFAIR. The live CD idea is a good one, also
run memtest86+ to make sure the RAM is not only seen but working.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 21 May 2014 20:38:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Isn't there a kernel setting that cuts off after 4GBs or something?  I
 seem to recall having to turn that on at some point.  I would think this
 would be on by default but . . . .
 That's only in 32 bit kernels AFAIR. The live CD idea is a good one, also
 run memtest86+ to make sure the RAM is not only seen but working.




Could be.  I can't recall if it was on my new rig or my older rig that I
had to do that on.  Old age and got to much stuff going on. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-21 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there!

So I installed another 4 GiB RAM into a Gentoo amd64 system that had 4 GiB
already. But it still sees only 4 GiB, not 8 GiB:

leela ~ # uname -a
Linux leela 3.6.11-gentoo #3 SMP Mon Feb 4 15:37:48 CET 2013 x86_64 AMD
A6-3500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 

leela ~ #
free -m total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  3688   3269419  0108   1050
-/+ buffers/cache:   2110   1577
Swap: 2047 54   1993

Huh? Any idea why this is? The BIOS shows the full 8GiB, and lshw finds
it. dmidecode shows that 8G should work:

leela ~ # dmidecode -t 16
# dmidecode 2.11
SMBIOS 2.7 present.

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: None
Maximum Capacity: 8 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 2

In case this helps, I uploaded the outputs of dmesg [1], lshw -c memory
[2] and full dmidecode output [3]. The dmesg output is somewhat weird
though, it has several 'vmalloc: allocation failure: 0 bytes' entries. I
suspected those were causing the problem, but I found that I needed to
activate CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y, and they are gone. But still only 4 GiB RAM.
The system is using an old kernel right now, so I cannot get the current
dmesg, sorry for this.

Probably related: Since I inserted this 2nd RAM module, wakeup
from hibernate-ram does no longer work.

Does this ring any bells? I'm out of ideas. Except than pulling out the 4
GB, or trying another mainboard.

[1] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/lshw.txt
[2] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/dmesg.txt
[3] http://www.wonkology.org/tmp/dmidecode.txt

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-21 Thread wraeth
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On 22/05/14 07:37, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Does this ring any bells? I'm out of ideas. Except than pulling out the 4 
 GB, or trying another mainboard.

Just a quick suggestion to help rule it out: try booting a LiveCD or other
one-size-fits-most medium and seeing if your full memory is registering
there. If it is, then it's not a hardware malfunction; if it doesn't, then
either you've got bad hardware or a configuration issue in your BIOS.

cheers
wraeth
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Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-21 Thread Dale
wraeth wrote:


 On 22/05/14 07:37, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Does this ring any bells? I'm out of ideas. Except than pulling out
the 4
  GB, or trying another mainboard.

 Just a quick suggestion to help rule it out: try booting a LiveCD or other
 one-size-fits-most medium and seeing if your full memory is registering
 there. If it is, then it's not a hardware malfunction; if it doesn't, then
 either you've got bad hardware or a configuration issue in your BIOS.

 cheers
 wraeth


Isn't there a kernel setting that cuts off after 4GBs or something?  I
seem to recall having to turn that on at some point.  I would think this
would be on by default but . . . .

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Only 4 of 8 GB usable

2014-05-21 Thread wraeth
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On 22/05/14 09:20, wraeth wrote:
 Just a quick suggestion to help rule it out: try booting a LiveCD or other 
 one-size-fits-most medium and seeing if your full memory is registering 
 there. If it is, then it's not a hardware malfunction; if it doesn't, then 
 either you've got bad hardware or a configuration issue in your BIOS.

Just had another thought, too: you could check what the BIOS reports either by
entering the BIOS configuration and going to the system information area, or
by inspecting your machines POST output (the diagnostic information that is
displayed during boot, sometimes hidden by a splash screen with Press
[something] to show details.

cheers
wraeth
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